Re: Mounting Floppies

2010-11-11 Thread David Bowskill
Hello to all who replied to my request on mounting a floppy. I took the
advice that I was given and used 'mtools' instead. As pointed out, there
is no need to mount the floppy and these tools got the info of the
floppy easily.
Thanks to all
David


On 10/11/10 23:03, Basil Chupin wrote:
> On 03/11/2010 23:16, David Bowskill wrote:
>> Thanks Basil
>> I can't seem to find the previous correspondence (have searched back as
>> far as May).
>> There seems to be some very basic bug since according to fstab anyone
>> can mount the floppy - and it seems to partially achieve this.
>> I'm sure some LINUX guru will see this as a challenge and come up with
>> the answer.
>> Cheers
>> David
>>
>> On 03/11/10 20:32, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>   
>>> On 03/11/2010 18:58, David Bowskill wrote:
>>>
>>> 
 Hello All
 I was cleaning up when I came across some old floppies with stuff I
 wished to read.

 Ubuntu 10.04 would not mount the floppy although the drive light
 cam on
 for a short while and the drive 'clicked'.

 The file /etc/fstab includes the following entry:

 /dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto,exec,utf8
 0   0

 when issuing the command:

   mount /dev/fd0

 the drive clicks and the terminal reports :-

   mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting
 read-only

 Then examining the file  /etc/mtab, it shows no entry for the floppy.

 Issuing the command umount /etc/fd0 the terminal reports:-

   umount: /dev/fd0 is not mounted (according to mtab)

 I cannot read the floppy - it is not mounted although it was
 reported as
 being so.

 Any ideas ??

 Thanks
 David



>>> Yes. A known problem but there is a solution. Can't remember what it is
>>> but there was a discussion on this in Ubuntu which I started at the end
>>> of September. You can either check the archives, or check Launchpad or
>>> wait (and remind me! :-) ) to find what I wrote at the time.
>>>
>>> The bottom line to all this is that none of the devs use computers with
>>> floppy drives and so they cannot produce the answer - nor really care
>>> because nobody is supposed to have computers which use floppies anymore
>>> :-( - but there IS an answer; I needed to boot the system using a
>>> floppy
>>> and started the thread beginning with, "WTF?! NO floppy in Lucid or in
>>> Meerkat". The "fix" is reasonably easy, and my floppy drive now is
>>> functional.
>>>
>>> BC
>>>  
>
>
> And so, after 7 days what is the result of the advice (chapter and
> verse) I provided?
>
> Did I waste my time - which means that in the future I will be more
> circumspect about wasting my time providing assistance - or did you
> get the floppy working but simply forgot to tell everybody about the
> fact?
>
> BC
>

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Re: Mounting Floppies

2010-11-10 Thread Basil Chupin
On 03/11/2010 23:16, David Bowskill wrote:
> Thanks Basil
> I can't seem to find the previous correspondence (have searched back as
> far as May).
> There seems to be some very basic bug since according to fstab anyone
> can mount the floppy - and it seems to partially achieve this.
> I'm sure some LINUX guru will see this as a challenge and come up with
> the answer.
> Cheers
> David
>
> On 03/11/10 20:32, Basil Chupin wrote:
>
>> On 03/11/2010 18:58, David Bowskill wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> Hello All
>>> I was cleaning up when I came across some old floppies with stuff I
>>> wished to read.
>>>
>>> Ubuntu 10.04 would not mount the floppy although the drive light cam on
>>> for a short while and the drive 'clicked'.
>>>
>>> The file /etc/fstab includes the following entry:
>>>
>>> /dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto,exec,utf8
>>> 0   0
>>>
>>> when issuing the command:
>>>
>>>   mount /dev/fd0
>>>
>>> the drive clicks and the terminal reports :-
>>>
>>>   mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
>>>
>>> Then examining the file  /etc/mtab, it shows no entry for the floppy.
>>>
>>> Issuing the command umount /etc/fd0 the terminal reports:-
>>>
>>>   umount: /dev/fd0 is not mounted (according to mtab)
>>>
>>> I cannot read the floppy - it is not mounted although it was reported as
>>> being so.
>>>
>>> Any ideas ??
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Yes. A known problem but there is a solution. Can't remember what it is
>> but there was a discussion on this in Ubuntu which I started at the end
>> of September. You can either check the archives, or check Launchpad or
>> wait (and remind me! :-) ) to find what I wrote at the time.
>>
>> The bottom line to all this is that none of the devs use computers with
>> floppy drives and so they cannot produce the answer - nor really care
>> because nobody is supposed to have computers which use floppies anymore
>> :-( - but there IS an answer; I needed to boot the system using a floppy
>> and started the thread beginning with, "WTF?! NO floppy in Lucid or in
>> Meerkat". The "fix" is reasonably easy, and my floppy drive now is
>> functional.
>>
>> BC
>>  


And so, after 7 days what is the result of the advice (chapter and 
verse) I provided?

Did I waste my time - which means that in the future I will be more 
circumspect about wasting my time providing assistance - or did you get 
the floppy working but simply forgot to tell everybody about the fact?

BC

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Re: Mounting Floppies

2010-11-03 Thread Basil Chupin

On 04/11/2010 15:42, Paul Gear wrote:

On 04/11/10 09:13, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
   

If you just want to get some stuff of floppy, just use mtools.
Don't bother mounting
 

This is good advice.  Get the stuff off with mtools, then forget about
the floppies! :-)
   

Normally would be the case and therefore good advice.

But not everybody runs the latest and greatest pieces of equipment - nor 
want to. There are still some systems running Linux systems - like one 
of my computers - which require to use the floppy to do a BIOS upgrade.


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Re: Mounting Floppies

2010-11-03 Thread Paul Gear
On 04/11/10 09:13, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
> If you just want to get some stuff of floppy, just use mtools.
> Don't bother mounting

This is good advice.  Get the stuff off with mtools, then forget about
the floppies! :-)
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Re: Mounting Floppies

2010-11-03 Thread Basil Chupin
On 03/11/2010 23:16, David Bowskill wrote:
> Thanks Basil
> I can't seem to find the previous correspondence (have searched back as
> far as May).
> There seems to be some very basic bug since according to fstab anyone
> can mount the floppy - and it seems to partially achieve this.
> I'm sure some LINUX guru will see this as a challenge and come up with
> the answer.
> Cheers
> David
>
The bug discussion is here-

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/udisks/+bug/441835

Now, follow what NoOp states in that discussion. Which is:  replace the 
default installation 9using Synaptic Package Manager) of 
udisks-1.0.1-ubuntu1 with the OLD version which is udisks-1.0.1-1build1 
and then LOCK it in the Synaptic Package Manager so that it is not 
upgraded. Install this same old version in Maverick (10.10); have a look 
at the archives for ubuntu-users on 25 September and look for a post 
from NoOp who tells me how to install this old version of udisks in 
Maverick (I only have record of what I sent out and not the complete 
thread).

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Re: Mounting Floppies

2010-11-03 Thread Matthew Hannigan


If you just want to get some stuff of floppy, just use mtools.
Don't bother mounting.


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Re: Mounting Floppies

2010-11-03 Thread Scott Evans
Just check to see if you have the following,

ls /media 
cdrom cdrom0 floppy floppy0 

The following are symlinks, cdrom & floppy, they just point to the directories 
ending in 0.

If there isn't a floppy/floppy0 just create them (as superuser) then see if you 
can mount the floppy. My desktop is floppy(less!) So I'm not 100% sure if this 
will fix the problem. My server was installed using ubuntu server edition 
(8.10) and these directories/symlink were created on install.   

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Re: Mounting Floppies

2010-11-03 Thread David Bowskill
Thanks Basil
I can't seem to find the previous correspondence (have searched back as
far as May).
There seems to be some very basic bug since according to fstab anyone
can mount the floppy - and it seems to partially achieve this.
I'm sure some LINUX guru will see this as a challenge and come up with
the answer.
Cheers
David

On 03/11/10 20:32, Basil Chupin wrote:
> On 03/11/2010 18:58, David Bowskill wrote:
>   
>> Hello All
>> I was cleaning up when I came across some old floppies with stuff I
>> wished to read.
>>
>> Ubuntu 10.04 would not mount the floppy although the drive light cam on
>> for a short while and the drive 'clicked'.
>>
>> The file /etc/fstab includes the following entry:
>>
>> /dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto,exec,utf8
>> 0   0
>>
>> when issuing the command:
>>
>>  mount /dev/fd0
>>
>> the drive clicks and the terminal reports :-
>>
>>  mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
>>
>> Then examining the file  /etc/mtab, it shows no entry for the floppy.
>>
>> Issuing the command umount /etc/fd0 the terminal reports:-
>>
>>  umount: /dev/fd0 is not mounted (according to mtab)
>>
>> I cannot read the floppy - it is not mounted although it was reported as
>> being so.
>>
>> Any ideas ??
>>
>> Thanks
>> David
>>
>> 
> Yes. A known problem but there is a solution. Can't remember what it is 
> but there was a discussion on this in Ubuntu which I started at the end 
> of September. You can either check the archives, or check Launchpad or 
> wait (and remind me! :-) ) to find what I wrote at the time.
>
> The bottom line to all this is that none of the devs use computers with 
> floppy drives and so they cannot produce the answer - nor really care 
> because nobody is supposed to have computers which use floppies anymore 
> :-( - but there IS an answer; I needed to boot the system using a floppy 
> and started the thread beginning with, "WTF?! NO floppy in Lucid or in 
> Meerkat". The "fix" is reasonably easy, and my floppy drive now is 
> functional.
>
> BC
>
>   

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Re: Mounting Floppies

2010-11-03 Thread Basil Chupin
On 03/11/2010 18:58, David Bowskill wrote:
> Hello All
> I was cleaning up when I came across some old floppies with stuff I
> wished to read.
>
> Ubuntu 10.04 would not mount the floppy although the drive light cam on
> for a short while and the drive 'clicked'.
>
> The file /etc/fstab includes the following entry:
>
> /dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto,exec,utf8
> 0   0
>
> when issuing the command:
>
>  mount /dev/fd0
>
> the drive clicks and the terminal reports :-
>
>  mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
>
> Then examining the file  /etc/mtab, it shows no entry for the floppy.
>
> Issuing the command umount /etc/fd0 the terminal reports:-
>
>  umount: /dev/fd0 is not mounted (according to mtab)
>
> I cannot read the floppy - it is not mounted although it was reported as
> being so.
>
> Any ideas ??
>
> Thanks
> David
>

Yes. A known problem but there is a solution. Can't remember what it is 
but there was a discussion on this in Ubuntu which I started at the end 
of September. You can either check the archives, or check Launchpad or 
wait (and remind me! :-) ) to find what I wrote at the time.

The bottom line to all this is that none of the devs use computers with 
floppy drives and so they cannot produce the answer - nor really care 
because nobody is supposed to have computers which use floppies anymore 
:-( - but there IS an answer; I needed to boot the system using a floppy 
and started the thread beginning with, "WTF?! NO floppy in Lucid or in 
Meerkat". The "fix" is reasonably easy, and my floppy drive now is 
functional.

BC

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