Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?

2008-01-25 Thread Stuart Hector
On 21/01/2008, David Whyte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 That was long since resolved.  Asus has since provided the source
 code, within a small number of days of that report.  They
 'accidentally' forgot to make it available. :)


Good news. Thanks for clearing that up.

Stuart
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Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?

2008-01-21 Thread Stuart Hector
I had a play with an Eee PC at Good guys on the weekend and thought it was
great.

I was however a bit dissapointed to then read this article on slashdot which
explains that the Eee PC seems to be in violation of the GPL. I hope it gets
resolved. It looks like a great bit of gear.
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/25/1331259
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Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?

2008-01-20 Thread Andrew G
Hi dov,

I just wanted to say thank for all this detailed info. Also, the ASUS
Eee PC sounds like a fun  practical PC to have (I've recommend it to
a friend who wants to use a laptop for standard tasks..) and I'll
probably still get a Dell as I'd like to still be able to play around
with Ubuntu. I imagine a Dell PC will give me the ability to more
readily explore and experiment than the ASUS EEE?

I'll probably wait a few more months anyway to see whether Dell AU
releases a Dell with an Ubuntu option. And also see how the ASUS eee
is handling.. sounds like it's pretty successful to date!

regards,
Andrew

On 18 Jan, 16:18, Dov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not sure if the market out this part of the world is considered big
 enough. Hey, Dells ship to here from Malaysia! Dell does offer great
 bang for your buck though and it has a good Dell-Linux section on the
 web. I got my Inspiron 1501 a while ago and put Ubuntu on it. Learned
 enough in the process to give the following tips:

 - For general Laptop selection, try and get one with nVidia instead of
 ATI (although the ATI drivers for Linux are improving a lot)
 - Try and get a model that is supported for Linux in the US.
 - You can download the Dell version of Ubuntu Gutsy off their website
 with all their hacks and drivers in it. Unfortunately it's a DVD sized
 download. No idea why.
 - When you reformat the hard drive, leave the two small Dell
 partitions intact (one at the start of the drive and another at the
 end). If you have issues with your laptop, they expect that you will
 be able to run their own diagnostics on it to help them with problem
 shooting. The other partition is a restore partition that restores the
 whole hard drive to it's original specs when it left the factory.
 - If you adapt your system on the Dell website (I recommend that you
 do!), choose XP instead of Vista. The price of the OS's looks the
 same, but they increase the price of the OTHER parts of the laptop if
 you select Vista. Spread the price elsewhere.

 I really do recommend the Dells though. They're working hard to be
 Linux friendly overall and they can't be beaten on price.

 While you're in NZ, Dick Smith used to sell computers without an OS
 and hand you a Linux CD on the way out. Not sure if they still do
 though...

 dov

 On Jan 11, 10:08 am, Andrew G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi there. I'm probably going to get a laptop this year... and I found
  this (http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?
  c=uscs=19l=ens=dhsdgc=IRcid=11973lid=471885) and am pretty
  stoked. After perusing the Dell Aussie site though, this doesn't seem
  to be an option for us.. is that right?

  thanks,
  Andrew

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Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?

2008-01-20 Thread Leslie Gossner




David Whyte wrote:

  On Jan 20, 2008 9:53 PM, Andrew G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
Hi dov,

I just wanted to say thank for all this detailed info. Also, the ASUS
Eee PC sounds like a fun  practical PC to have (I've recommend it to
a friend who wants to use a laptop for standard tasks..) and I'll
probably still get a Dell as I'd like to still be able to play around
with Ubuntu.

  
  
I don't have an EeePC (yet) but I really like its form.  Anyways, I
saw that you could run full blown Ubuntu on there, even with the 3D
effects.  I will probably wait for a slightly better screen.  I really
couldn't work on something with such low resolution, especially if I
chose to do some programming in an IDE.

Anyways, a video of the EeePC running compiz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru780Jfc1bQ

Cheers,
Whytey

  

Hmm this is a very interesting discussion. I have an old steam driven
Toshiba atm and everything on it works but the battery life is woeful
at best. I somehow dont think th eeePc will suit my usage. If i was
willing to spend say $1500-2500 on a laptop. what couple people
recommend as powerful yet Ubuntu friendly? I hate to say it but most
likely i will dual boot XP and Kubuntu 7.04 (this is the last version
of Linux kernel i can get my iBurst USB modem to work with). Xp will
just be for games but i play a lot of games at work and Wine doesn't
love me.
Leslie

P.S Battery life would be a big bonus to me as my current model
struggles at 2 hours of web browsing.



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Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?

2008-01-19 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
You can't compare clock speeds across different types or revisions/generations 
of CPUs. Today's CPUs are much more efficient clock-for-clock than their 
predecessors.

See here for an explanation:

  http://yama.blogsome.com/2007/11/12/megahertz-marketing/


On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Chris Dinneen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes It was a Pentium 4. But the Clock speed on the EeePC is only ~900MHz.

 martin fricke wrote:
  Do you mean a Pentium 4 2.4GHz? They were released to the market at
  least 5 years ago (up to 6 years) so are old technology. Still seems
  like good performance from a mini notebook though.
 
 
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  On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:30:10 +1000, Chris Dinneen
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I work in a Physics Department at a University and I helped one of the
  Grad students modify his Eee PC so we could install mathematica (the
  default partition scheme is less than helpful). As a comparison of
  speed,  our 2.4 Ghz Intel Pentium Desktop took 3 times longer to
  calculate a series of 5 complicated integrals as the EeePC. So the thing
  certainly doesn't lack speed.



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Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?

2008-01-19 Thread andremangan
Thanks for that information, Matt.

Everything works perfectly on this machine (Epc) including the webcam - in
fact the camera capture programme used is is far superior to camorama - at
least the Dapper edition of it.

My Maxtor Mini has a capacity of 60 GB and works fine with the Epc but the
power requirement of the Maxtor means connecting the Epc to the mains which
is not always convenient.

I will keep the SDHC card in mind - thanks for the tip.

Andre



On 20/01/2008, Matthew Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 08:28:01AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...and it also responds to voice commands.
 
  It really is an amazing machine.  The Xandros installation works very,
 very
  well.

 I also got one and agree!

 The internal flash is 4 of which only 1.3g is left over from
 the xandros system and a recovery partition.

 I bought a 4gb SDHC card for the slot; that gives me plenty of
 disk space.   The card was a lexar from Dick Smith which comes
 with a usb card reader - useful if you want to attach it
 to another machine.

 Now I just have to get a C compiler and other bits and pieces
 on to it.  I won't go ubuntu (yet).  It's quite good as it
 is.

 There are a few revisions of these things out already; 7a,
 7b, 7c.  I don't know what the difference is but apparently
 some or all of the earlier ones webcam didn't / wasn't
 enabled to work out of the box.

 My rev 7c works fine.


 Matt





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Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?

2008-01-18 Thread Les Gray

Am Donnerstag, den 17.01.2008, 22:10 -0800 schrieb Dov:
 G'day Andrew,
 
 I just checked out the Good Guys webs, and found not only an Acer, but
 a tiny little Asus laptop with the OS marked as Linux.
 
 Very nice to see...
 
 Dov

That's the ASUS Eee PC, which was briefly discussed on this list not
long ago. It comes pre-installed with a customised version of Xandros
which, like Ubuntu, is based on Debian.

Without wanting to sound like an ad, this thing is a great piece of kit.
It's got both wifi and ethernet networking, Intel graphics with dual
monitor support, HD audio with built-in speakers and input/output jacks,
3 USB 2.0 ports, webcam, plus an SD/SDHC card slot. It runs on a 4 GB
internal flash drive, though some models come with a 2 GB or an 8 GB one
(which I don't think are available in Australia). The max. battery life
is only 3.5 hours, but I think a new model battery with more cells in it
is coming out soon.

I snagged myself one of these just before Xmas and can highly recommend
it. It's going to come in very handy when I go back to being a student
in a few weeks.

A community for this device has started up at www.eeeuser.com , which is
packed with howtos and what not, including installing a custom eee PC
version of Xubuntu, among many other OSes, although the default Xandros
is pretty good for what this thing is designed to be - an easy to use
and highly portable lightweight computing device.


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