Re: My _intended_ emal re: soundconverter anomolies
> Which bug reports did you read? Those concentrating on DMA/UDMA issues and those on mixing sata and scsi/ide drives, but k3b burning bug reports generally. The DMA setting has been an issue for some time and was also in Windows. > What does lsscsi show on your system? (You may have to install the [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsscsi [0:0:0:0]diskATA ST3120022A 3.06 /dev/sda [1:0:1:0]diskATA ST3120022A 8.54 /dev/sdb [5:0:0:0]diskATA ST3320620AS 3.AA /dev/sdh [6:0:0:0]diskATA ST3250620AS 3.AA /dev/sdi [9:0:0:0]diskSMSC 223 U HS-CF 1.95 /dev/sdd [9:0:0:1]diskSMSC 223 U HS-MS 1.95 /dev/sde [9:0:0:2]diskSMSC 223 U HS-SM 1.95 /dev/sdf [9:0:0:3]diskSMSC 223 U HS-SD/MMC 1.95 /dev/sdg [12:0:0:0] cd/dvd BENQ DVD DD DW1650BCFC /dev/scd0 [12:0:1:0] diskATA ST3120022A 8.01 /dev/sdc [14:0:0:0] diskSeagate FreeAgentDesktop 100F /dev/sdj [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ That's this system but my other ubuntu system has the same burning issues. Many thanks, David > I avoided it rather intentionally, because i don't think it will be > helpful in solving your problem, which is getting MP3s onto audio CD. I need these files in wav format so I can play the cds in non-mp3 players. Many thanks, David On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 14:55 +1000, Paul Gear wrote: > David Ryder wrote: > > Hi, > >>From the bug reports on k3b there seems to be an issue when there are a > > mixture of ide and scsi or sata drives. Apparently, from what I > > understand, K3b is a front end using cdrado and as it was some time ago > > that I spent researching this I can not remember the exact details in > > the bug reports. I did spend a lot of time and cds trying the various > > suggestions in the bug reports but eventually, after some weeks, gave > > up. > > Which bug reports did you read? > > >> I've never encountered anything that K3B couldn't burn that > >> wasn't my fault. If K3B and the Gnome equivalents are not working, > >> there is very likely something wrong with your CD drive or media. > > > > It is not media nor my dvd drives. It is either a setting I do not > > know about or a bug that affects my combination of drives or the > > ability to lock the drive. If there are settings for k3b > > What does lsscsi show on your system? (You may have to install the > lsscsi package first.) My wife's desktop shows something like this: > > [0:0:0:0]diskATA WDC WD2000JD-00G 02.0 /dev/sda > [4:0:0:0]diskATA ST380011A3.06 /dev/sdb > [5:0:0:0]cd/dvd LITE-ON LTR-52246S 6S0F /dev/scd0 > [5:0:1:0]cd/dvd JLMS XJ-HD165HCH11 /dev/scd1 > > Even though i have a combination of ATA and SATA, they all show up as > SCSI. Yours should be similar. > > > ... > > But be that as it may, with respect, the issue of the file sizes was > > avoided in your reply :-) > > I avoided it rather intentionally, because i don't think it will be > helpful in solving your problem, which is getting MP3s onto audio CD. > > Paul -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: My _intended_ emal re: soundconverter anomolies
David Ryder wrote: > Hi, >>From the bug reports on k3b there seems to be an issue when there are a > mixture of ide and scsi or sata drives. Apparently, from what I > understand, K3b is a front end using cdrado and as it was some time ago > that I spent researching this I can not remember the exact details in > the bug reports. I did spend a lot of time and cds trying the various > suggestions in the bug reports but eventually, after some weeks, gave > up. Which bug reports did you read? >> I've never encountered anything that K3B couldn't burn that >> wasn't my fault. If K3B and the Gnome equivalents are not working, >> there is very likely something wrong with your CD drive or media. > > It is not media nor my dvd drives. It is either a setting I do not > know about or a bug that affects my combination of drives or the > ability to lock the drive. If there are settings for k3b What does lsscsi show on your system? (You may have to install the lsscsi package first.) My wife's desktop shows something like this: [0:0:0:0]diskATA WDC WD2000JD-00G 02.0 /dev/sda [4:0:0:0]diskATA ST380011A3.06 /dev/sdb [5:0:0:0]cd/dvd LITE-ON LTR-52246S 6S0F /dev/scd0 [5:0:1:0]cd/dvd JLMS XJ-HD165HCH11 /dev/scd1 Even though i have a combination of ATA and SATA, they all show up as SCSI. Yours should be similar. > ... > But be that as it may, with respect, the issue of the file sizes was > avoided in your reply :-) I avoided it rather intentionally, because i don't think it will be helpful in solving your problem, which is getting MP3s onto audio CD. Paul smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: My _intended_ emal re: soundconverter anomolies
David Ryder wrote: > Paul, > I omitted to say that k3b gives me this error: > "Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format: > You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another > application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to > the K3b project. > /home/david/Desktop/The Ultimate Collection/01 You're The First The Last > My Everything Barry White.mp3 > ..." > > Hence soundconverter ... Do you have the libk3b2-extracodecs package installed? Paul smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: My _intended_ emal re: soundconverter anomolies
Paul, I omitted to say that k3b gives me this error: "Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format: You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the K3b project. /home/david/Desktop/The Ultimate Collection/01 You're The First The Last My Everything Barry White.mp3 ..." Hence soundconverter ... David On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 12:05 +1000, Paul Gear wrote: > David Ryder wrote: > > ... > > First, I sincerely apologise for mucking people up this morning with two > > emails I should have written when not being interrupted. > > We all have our moments. :-) > > > ... > > I am trying to convert 124.9MB of 18 mp3 files to wav format. (Actually, > > a lot of mp3's but this is my 'test' case in Hardy). > > ... > > Can anybody help please? I need to convert a lot of files (preferably by > > gui because of the volume I have to do) and want the best quality for cd > > burning. (K3b is not an option for me. The only burning program I have > > ever found successful is Imgburn via Wine.) > > The one thing i can't get past when reading your emails is: WHY? Why > would you want to do this? K3B has a perfectly good MP3-to-CD-audio > converter. I've never encountered anything that K3B couldn't burn that > wasn't my fault. If K3B and the Gnome equivalents are not working, > there is very likely something wrong with your CD drive or media. > > If you don't have any joy working out what's wrong with the native CD > burners, another option might be Audacity, although i'm guessing that > what you meant above was that you would prefer NOT to do it with a GUI. > Another command-line option would be mpg321: > mpg321 --wav file.wav file.mp3 > > Paul -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: My _intended_ emal re: soundconverter anomolies
Hi, I need the wav format to play in some of my cd players that do not accept mp3. I know I can not regain what was lost - the objective is as above. Even in just a straight mp3 to wav conversion using soundconverter the files were, IMHO, very large. David On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 19:38 -0800, daniel sobey wrote: > A standard cd is 700mb and holds about 80 minutes of audio at 44100hz 16 bit > I believe. > It is more or less just the contents of the wave files plus a simple table of > contents that has when the tracks start and not much more. > Depending on the length of song you can get about 16-22ish songs per cd. > > You will not gain any more data by converting them back into wave as that > data has already been lost from the original. > mp3 is a lossy format so it throws away a lot of the data from the original. > If you are doing this to just burn them back onto cd i would not bother > converting them into wave then burning, i would instead just use your > favorite media player and get that to do that step on the fly. > > with point 2 you are probably not resampling it at all, 44100 is reasonably > standard as that's what the original cd uses, the artifacts get worse when > you change this. > > so what is the end purpose of this? You should go back to the original if you > are going to do any audio changes. > --- On Tue, 11/11/08, David Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: David Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: My _intended_ emal re: soundconverter anomolies > > To: "Ubuntu-au mailing list" > > Received: Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 12:13 PM > > Hi, > > First, I sincerely apologise for mucking people up this > > morning with two > > emails I should have written when not being interrupted. > > > > OK. Hardy 32 bit, Intel Core 2 CPU @ 2.13GHz > > > > I am trying to convert 124.9MB of 18 mp3 files to wav > > format. (Actually, > > a lot of mp3's but this is my 'test' case in > > Hardy). > > > > My tests: > > 18 mp3s totalling 124.9MB > > > > 1. In Hardy, using soundconverter 1.0.1 (from the > > repository), I noticed > > loading the program used 50% CPU resources and was non > > responsive for > > about 15 seconds and greyed out, then was available to use. > > There is no > > resampling available in this version and converting the 18 > > mp3 files to > > wav format resulted in 1.5GB. > > > > 2. I installed manually the latest soundconverter 1.4.1. It > > loaded > > faster and worked faster. As it permits resampling for wav > > files, I > > chose 44100. The resultant size was again 1.5GB. I expected > > more as I > > thought resampling would make the files larger. > > > > 3. As 1.5GB seemed large, I used a Windows machine, trying > > three of the > > plethora of software audio converters available. I > > converted the 18 mp3 > > files to 44100 resampled. The resultant size was between > > 580MB and > > <800MB. > > > > This seemed to confirm soundconverter's results were > > excesssively large, > > especially when compared to the 580MB - <800MB in > > Windows. > > > > Can anybody help please? I need to convert a lot of files > > (preferably by > > gui because of the volume I have to do) and want the best > > quality for cd > > burning. (K3b is not an option for me. The only burning > > program I have > > ever found successful is Imgburn via Wine.) > > > > Many thanks, > > David > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-au mailing list > > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: My _intended_ emal re: soundconverter anomolies
Hi, >From the bug reports on k3b there seems to be an issue when there are a mixture of ide and scsi or sata drives. Apparently, from what I understand, K3b is a front end using cdrado and as it was some time ago that I spent researching this I can not remember the exact details in the bug reports. I did spend a lot of time and cds trying the various suggestions in the bug reports but eventually, after some weeks, gave up. I tried again last weekend and no updates had resolved the issues for me. Not being a technophile, I am reluctant to blindly change config files. > I've never encountered anything that K3B couldn't burn that > wasn't my fault. If K3B and the Gnome equivalents are not working, > there is very likely something wrong with your CD drive or media. It is not media nor my dvd drives. It is either a setting I do not know about or a bug that affects my combination of drives or the ability to lock the drive. If there are settings for k3b I did mean that I want to use a gui ... But be that as it may, with respect, the issue of the file sizes was avoided in your reply :-) David On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 12:05 +1000, Paul Gear wrote: > David Ryder wrote: > > ... > > First, I sincerely apologise for mucking people up this morning with two > > emails I should have written when not being interrupted. > > We all have our moments. :-) > > > ... > > I am trying to convert 124.9MB of 18 mp3 files to wav format. (Actually, > > a lot of mp3's but this is my 'test' case in Hardy). > > ... > > Can anybody help please? I need to convert a lot of files (preferably by > > gui because of the volume I have to do) and want the best quality for cd > > burning. (K3b is not an option for me. The only burning program I have > > ever found successful is Imgburn via Wine.) > > The one thing i can't get past when reading your emails is: WHY? Why > would you want to do this? K3B has a perfectly good MP3-to-CD-audio > converter. I've never encountered anything that K3B couldn't burn that > wasn't my fault. If K3B and the Gnome equivalents are not working, > there is very likely something wrong with your CD drive or media. > > If you don't have any joy working out what's wrong with the native CD > burners, another option might be Audacity, although i'm guessing that > what you meant above was that you would prefer NOT to do it with a GUI. > Another command-line option would be mpg321: > mpg321 --wav file.wav file.mp3 > > Paul -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: My _intended_ emal re: soundconverter anomolies
A standard cd is 700mb and holds about 80 minutes of audio at 44100hz 16 bit I believe. It is more or less just the contents of the wave files plus a simple table of contents that has when the tracks start and not much more. Depending on the length of song you can get about 16-22ish songs per cd. You will not gain any more data by converting them back into wave as that data has already been lost from the original. mp3 is a lossy format so it throws away a lot of the data from the original. If you are doing this to just burn them back onto cd i would not bother converting them into wave then burning, i would instead just use your favorite media player and get that to do that step on the fly. with point 2 you are probably not resampling it at all, 44100 is reasonably standard as that's what the original cd uses, the artifacts get worse when you change this. so what is the end purpose of this? You should go back to the original if you are going to do any audio changes. --- On Tue, 11/11/08, David Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: David Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: My _intended_ emal re: soundconverter anomolies > To: "Ubuntu-au mailing list" > Received: Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 12:13 PM > Hi, > First, I sincerely apologise for mucking people up this > morning with two > emails I should have written when not being interrupted. > > OK. Hardy 32 bit, Intel Core 2 CPU @ 2.13GHz > > I am trying to convert 124.9MB of 18 mp3 files to wav > format. (Actually, > a lot of mp3's but this is my 'test' case in > Hardy). > > My tests: > 18 mp3s totalling 124.9MB > > 1. In Hardy, using soundconverter 1.0.1 (from the > repository), I noticed > loading the program used 50% CPU resources and was non > responsive for > about 15 seconds and greyed out, then was available to use. > There is no > resampling available in this version and converting the 18 > mp3 files to > wav format resulted in 1.5GB. > > 2. I installed manually the latest soundconverter 1.4.1. It > loaded > faster and worked faster. As it permits resampling for wav > files, I > chose 44100. The resultant size was again 1.5GB. I expected > more as I > thought resampling would make the files larger. > > 3. As 1.5GB seemed large, I used a Windows machine, trying > three of the > plethora of software audio converters available. I > converted the 18 mp3 > files to 44100 resampled. The resultant size was between > 580MB and > <800MB. > > This seemed to confirm soundconverter's results were > excesssively large, > especially when compared to the 580MB - <800MB in > Windows. > > Can anybody help please? I need to convert a lot of files > (preferably by > gui because of the volume I have to do) and want the best > quality for cd > burning. (K3b is not an option for me. The only burning > program I have > ever found successful is Imgburn via Wine.) > > Many thanks, > David > > > > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: My _intended_ emal re: soundconverter anomolies
David Ryder wrote: > ... > First, I sincerely apologise for mucking people up this morning with two > emails I should have written when not being interrupted. We all have our moments. :-) > ... > I am trying to convert 124.9MB of 18 mp3 files to wav format. (Actually, > a lot of mp3's but this is my 'test' case in Hardy). > ... > Can anybody help please? I need to convert a lot of files (preferably by > gui because of the volume I have to do) and want the best quality for cd > burning. (K3b is not an option for me. The only burning program I have > ever found successful is Imgburn via Wine.) The one thing i can't get past when reading your emails is: WHY? Why would you want to do this? K3B has a perfectly good MP3-to-CD-audio converter. I've never encountered anything that K3B couldn't burn that wasn't my fault. If K3B and the Gnome equivalents are not working, there is very likely something wrong with your CD drive or media. If you don't have any joy working out what's wrong with the native CD burners, another option might be Audacity, although i'm guessing that what you meant above was that you would prefer NOT to do it with a GUI. Another command-line option would be mpg321: mpg321 --wav file.wav file.mp3 Paul smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
My _intended_ emal re: soundconverter anomolies
Hi, First, I sincerely apologise for mucking people up this morning with two emails I should have written when not being interrupted. OK. Hardy 32 bit, Intel Core 2 CPU @ 2.13GHz I am trying to convert 124.9MB of 18 mp3 files to wav format. (Actually, a lot of mp3's but this is my 'test' case in Hardy). My tests: 18 mp3s totalling 124.9MB 1. In Hardy, using soundconverter 1.0.1 (from the repository), I noticed loading the program used 50% CPU resources and was non responsive for about 15 seconds and greyed out, then was available to use. There is no resampling available in this version and converting the 18 mp3 files to wav format resulted in 1.5GB. 2. I installed manually the latest soundconverter 1.4.1. It loaded faster and worked faster. As it permits resampling for wav files, I chose 44100. The resultant size was again 1.5GB. I expected more as I thought resampling would make the files larger. 3. As 1.5GB seemed large, I used a Windows machine, trying three of the plethora of software audio converters available. I converted the 18 mp3 files to 44100 resampled. The resultant size was between 580MB and <800MB. This seemed to confirm soundconverter's results were excesssively large, especially when compared to the 580MB - <800MB in Windows. Can anybody help please? I need to convert a lot of files (preferably by gui because of the volume I have to do) and want the best quality for cd burning. (K3b is not an option for me. The only burning program I have ever found successful is Imgburn via Wine.) Many thanks, David -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
soundconverter anomolies
Hello list, I am very embarrassed about this - please ignore my 2 emails sent at 7.11 and 7.23 this morning. I am re-writing it as soon as I am uninterrupted. My sincere apologies for this waste of your valuable email reading. David -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: soundconverter anomolies
Sorry - my first email had an error: the second test reslt was 183GB not 1.83GB. Sorry folks. David On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 07:11 +1100, David Ryder wrote: > Hello, > I have just completed some tests with soundconverter. I am a bit > confused: > 1. In Windows, using any of the plethora of software available, I > converted 18 mp3 files totalling 124.9MB to wav files, resampled at > 44100. The resultant size was 580MB approx. > 2. In Hardy, using soundconverter 1.0.1 (from the repository), I noticed > it used 50% CPU resources when loaded and was non responsive for about > 15 seconds, greyed out then was available to use. There is no resampling > available in this version and converting the same mp3 files to wav > format resulted in a whopping 116.9GB ! > 3. I installed manually the latest soundconverter 1.4.0 which permits > resampling for wav files so I chose 44100 as in the Windows test. Then I > did the same conversion. Ouch - 1.83GB ! > > Soundcoverter to wav results in very much larger file sizes than similar > programs in Windows. Can anybody tell me why and which is actually doing > the job properly? BTW, no, K3b is not an option for me as K3b still has > burning discs bugs - and only Imgburn in wine works for me - that is, no > Linux burning works. > > Many thanks, > > A very frustrated and confused, > David > > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
soundconverter anomolies
Hello, I have just completed some tests with soundconverter. I am a bit confused: 1. In Windows, using any of the plethora of software available, I converted 18 mp3 files totalling 124.9MB to wav files, resampled at 44100. The resultant size was 580MB approx. 2. In Hardy, using soundconverter 1.0.1 (from the repository), I noticed it used 50% CPU resources when loaded and was non responsive for about 15 seconds, greyed out then was available to use. There is no resampling available in this version and converting the same mp3 files to wav format resulted in a whopping 116.9GB ! 3. I installed manually the latest soundconverter 1.4.0 which permits resampling for wav files so I chose 44100 as in the Windows test. Then I did the same conversion. Ouch - 1.83GB ! Soundcoverter to wav results in very much larger file sizes than similar programs in Windows. Can anybody tell me why and which is actually doing the job properly? BTW, no, K3b is not an option for me as K3b still has burning discs bugs - and only Imgburn in wine works for me - that is, no Linux burning works. Many thanks, A very frustrated and confused, David -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
