Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Trausch
On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 16:55 +, rageboy wrote:

> I'm getting the impression from the comments on here that an official
> backport in the repos isn't happening anytime soon? 


AFAIK, there has been no mention of an official backport.

However, on my page I have:

http://www.trausch.us/pidgin - Instructions/links for installing Pidgin
from the packages that I have which have been backported from Gutsy.

The 32-bit version and OTR/Guifications plugins have been done by
myself; the 64-bit version was done by Neatchee.  The 32-bit version has
a script available for its installation; I did it that way because the
older 32-bit version that I did wasn't 100% backported, while everything
that is up there now is.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Trausch
On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 14:40 +, Neatchee wrote:

> Hey man.  The dummy package, gaim_2.0.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb, is available
> from the Gutsy repos and works as-is as far as I'm aware.  No
> backporting needed.  I can't even TRY to backport it because when
> prevu
> tries to pull the source packages for the gaim transitional package,
> it's referenced to the pidgin source package XD (see the bottom of
> this
> page for what i'm talking about:
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/gaim ) 


I can do that.  I just feel more comfy taking everything that is built
together and using that, if you know what I mean.  :-)  When you build
the pidgin source package, you get gaim, pidgin, pidgin-data,
pidgin-dev, pidgin-dbg as output binary packages.  I can just include my
GAIM upgrade package with the distribution, and I will have it up later
today (I have to run out to do some errands, first).

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Trausch
Eep!

Neatchee, those packages won't cleanly install as an upgrade—it's
missing the dummy package!

There should also be a gaim-2.0.2 package that has next to no bulk to it
whatsoever—it's a dummy compatibility/upgrade package for systems like
Feisty where gaim has to be replaced.  Do you have that to go along with
your packages, as well?

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-28 Thread Michael Trausch
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 19:33 +, Neatchee wrote:

> Basically I just downloaded the source for each package, made the
> changes necessary to get it to successfully build on Feisty (in this
> case, change all dependencies on libnss3 to just libnss), built the
> debs
> using preview and installed.  The prevu-built debs are what you're
> getting here.  That should be all that needs to be done, correct?
> Unless you're going to add scripts to have it successfully replace
> Gaim
> installations.  That's all you though :) 


:-)

I have a script for the 32-bit version, but I only wrote that to update
from the previous version that I released that was broken (it used
checkinstall to do its work, and checkinstall doesn't do things in an
Ubuntu-compliant fashion).  New installs can just dpkg -i * and then
pull any deps manually, though I can easily modify my existing script to
do that for users.  It would probably be far easier to provide an apt
repo, but I can't figure out how to set that up with the amount of time
that I have available right now, so the script is the Right Thing.

I will download these and get them up within 24 hours.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-28 Thread Michael Trausch
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 18:51 +, Neatchee wrote:

> Hey Mike, did you get that tarball for x64 that I sent you?  Want to
> make sure that it came through alright.
> 
> Let me know if you need anything else built (I don't necessarily keep
> up
> to date on Pidgin development)


Hrm.  It doesn't seem so... it didn't hit my spam folder, either.

Is there somewhere that you can upload it to and I can download it and
then put it up?

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-28 Thread Michael Trausch
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 17:58 +, rageboy wrote:

> I'd second but I'm not second. So I'll just say I want this too...only
> I
> want 2.1.0 (which though it hasn't been released yet, probably will be
> by the time this is implemented ;)) 


Well, if/when 2.1.0 hits Gutsy I will update the packages on my web
site.

Or, if it doesn't and some time passes after it is released, I will
attempt to do the port to Feisty myself and see what happens.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-25 Thread Michael Trausch
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 00:50 +, Neatchee wrote:

> If you want, I can send you the debs built for my amd64 build so you
> don't have to take the time.  Built with prevu from Gutsy sources
> pidgin
> and pidgin-data, changing all references of libnss3 to libnss 


That should work.  If you could e-mail them to me in a tar file, I can
get them up by tomorrow along with a script to automatically pull and
install them.

Unfortunately, I don't know quite how to do the APT repository dance,
and so I would be perfectly willing to contribute the binary packages
that I have (the src packages are available in the Feisty src tree) to
someone that has an APT repo or is willing to create one.

Incidentally, what is the status of the official backport to Feisty?
Are there plans for one?  It works quite well, and would be far better
for everyone if they were added to feisty-backports.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-25 Thread Michael Trausch
I have a new 32-bit version on my site:  http://www.trausch.us/pidgin

All of the packages are now backported from Gutsy, and I have a shell
script that will manage the upgrade from my old checkinstall-generated
packages to the ones backported from Gutsy.  I can still do a 64-bit
version soonish; I am planning on doing it anyway, all I need to do is
install 64-bit Feisty onto another partition and build it there.

Questions/comments/concerns are welcome to be aired at my site.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-20 Thread Michael Trausch
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 21:33 +, Jamie Jackson wrote:

> I've have installed from repos (via apt) and have installed from
> source
> before. However, I haven't done much, if anything in-between (which
> this
> seems to be). Once this stuff gets in the repos, will I automatically
> get
> updates, etc. (as opposed to when I install from source)?
> 
> BTW, here's a step-by-step for noobs (like me), because it took me a
> little
> while to figure out how to do it. I'd post it in your site's comments,
> but
> the comments are closed. 


Sorry, I was going to get to it and I just got lost in all of the other
things going on.  I put your stuff up on the page, so it is now
accessible.  Thanks!

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-20 Thread Michael Trausch
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 12:30 +, Mahdi wrote:

> Very good.
> Are there any amd64 builds avaiable other than getdeb's? Their version
> do not seem to be very clean (i.e.: do not replace gaim with a dummy
> pkg).
> Does pidgin have any BIG change, or important feature not in Feisty's
> gaim? 


It has hundreds of bugfixes, though I don't know if any of the AMD64
GAIM bugs are fixed.  I might be able to build an AMD64 version, though,
at some point.  I reverted to 32-bit Ubuntu because the 64-bit system
was fine overall, but GAIM crashed a LOT—which I couldn't deal with.

I can try making 64-bit packages later today.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-19 Thread Michael Trausch
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 02:05 +, Jamie Jackson wrote:

> Any guess as to when this might be available? I'm trying to weigh my
> options...


I don't know when there will be an official backport... however, I do
have a package available (well, packages) available from
http://www.trausch.us/pidgin/ where you can download a tarball with
Pidgin 2.0.1 packages.  Included in the tarball are the following:

 - gaim_2.0.1-1_all.deb: dummy upgrade package to satisfy the
ubuntu-desktop dependency.
 - pidgin-data_2.0.1-1_all.deb - replaces gaim-data (backported from
Gutsy, then updated to 2.0.1 from upstream)
 - pidgin_2.0.1-1_i386.deb - replaces gaim (backported from Gutsy, then
updated to 2.0.1 from upstream)
 - pidgin-guifications_2.14-1_i386.deb - Guifications plugin (built w/
checkinstall with upstream tarball)
 - libotr_3.0.0-1_i386.deb - OTR library (built w/ checkinstall with
upstream tarball)
 - pidgin-otr_3.0.0-1_i386.deb - OTR plugin (built w/ checkinstall with
upstream tarball)

The packages that are built with checkinstall will require that you
uninstall the previous ones, if necessary (that is, you have to manually
uninstall gaim-guifications, libotr, and gaim-otr from the Feisty system
if you have them; they were not available from the Gutsy repo when I
built Pidgin, though I can try to come up with the time tomorrow to make
cleaner packages if necessary).  However, DO NOT UNINSTALL GAIM, as the
gaim/pidgin-data/pidgin packages will cleanly replace their Feisty
counterparts.

There seems to be two added dependencies, that you must fetch from the
repositories: libmeanwhile1 and libavahi-compat-howl0, both of which can
be installed from the repositories.  libavahi-compat-howl0 is in
Universe, while libmeanwhile1 is in Main.

A note worth mentioning:  While I have been using these packages since I
built them on May 29 without issue, I am not supporting the packages
actively.  I am certainly willing to try to help with issues related
directly to them, but I don't have a great deal of time due to school
and all.  I can be reached by Internet mail if there are any questions.
I don't know how to go about getting anything done in the backports
system, though, so this is about the best that I know how to, and can,
do for now.  Of course, 2.0.2 is out now, and I hear that 2.1.0 is
coming soonish.  If I have extra time I will update my packages to
2.0.2.  And no, I don't have a repository setup, because I haven't had
the time to figure out how to do all that yet, and I only expect to be
keeping up with Pidgin until they are able to backport it.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-08 Thread Michael Trausch
Is there a way to view the changelog before release?  Or will I have to
wait for the release to see what is in it?  I have no clue how to use
the SCM system that they are using.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-07 Thread Michael Trausch
Is there a way that I can send my 2.0.1 sources that I built to Ubuntu
for integration/inspection?  I could do that.  The plugins, however, are
not even debianized, and the last time that I checked, they were not
available from Gutsy’s source repository, either.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-06 Thread Michael Trausch
I backported Pidgin 2.0.0 from the Gusty repo, and then updated it to
2.0.1, and built it along with OTR and Guifications (the two major
external plugins that I use). The Pidgin packages are from Gusty's
source and built (after being updated to Pidgin 2.0.1) and the OTR and
Guifications packages were done with checkinstall because I couldn't
figure out how to debianize them properly. They are all available in a
tarball on my site though, at http://www.trausch.us/pidgin/ if anyone is
interested. The packages in the tar file will drop into an IA32 Feisty
system. I have not had any issues with these binaries as of yet, and I
have been using them for a little bit now.

Note that while I am happy to provide the binaries to the entire world,
I can't offer support for them; use them at your own risk if you choose
to use them at all.  But, it worked out with some minor tweaks to the
build-deps in the Pidgin package, and it had been working for me since I
built and installed it, so it seems good.

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[Bug 78537] Evince accessibility with multiple screens feature backport request

2007-01-08 Thread Michael Trausch
Public bug reported:

The version of Evince present in Feisty (0.7.0-0ubuntu1) has (per bug
#53864) the ability to work with multiple X11 screens cleanly.  As I use
this feature in X11 on my laptop on Edgy, it would be nice to see this
backported to Edgy if it is possible.

Also, the presentation mode features that were added would also be
useful in Edgy.

Thanks!

** Affects: edgy-backports (upstream)
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