Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting on 13/05/2009 - Report

[Mike Morraye]

This is what I had in mind:

We can have a web-hack-day to blow some live into the website.
The functionality and usefulness of the website are the base of it's
success. (and it's still too separated from the wiki-pages, if you ask
me)

Then we can extend it by "virtual workshops".
So we'll have something as LoCo website-beats... or however you want to
call them.
Just some time where there's some more attention on the
website-contribution.

We can organize them on the #ubuntu-be channel and back them up trough
the mailinglist

The hardest part is to get it dynamic. (some content can aromatically be
integrated from the wiki pages)
>From that point on, there will be less (translation)work.
At this point, everything should be written and translated twice.
And some (new) people like the website layout more than the wiki pages.

It's a hard nut to crack, but it's worth it...

Let me know your opinion.
If there are some people willing to do this, then we can start looking
for a place to do so ;)
(I found out this is quite something hard)

Kind regards,

Mike


On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 17:03 +0200, Pierre Buyle wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:01 PM, jean7491  wrote:
> > Suggestions
> > - to organize something as a ubuntu-be-website-hack-weekend
> > - to arrange a meeting so we can inform the interested people to join
> > that meeting (but waiting mongolito404 is back)
> Hi, I'm back but I've been quite busy since I returned from holidays.
> I really like the idea of organizing a website hack weekend (or even a
> single day). Although we need more writing (in Dutch, English, French
> and German) than hacking. If you look at the bugs list
> (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium/+bugs), most of them are
> Incomplete because we need a German translation for some strings.
> 
> I'll try to be at the next IRC meeting but I don't know yet if I will
> have a working Internet connection (I'm moving this week-end).
> 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting on 13/05/2009 - Report

[Mike Morraye]

I already mentioned it on the #ubuntu-be channel:
The report is written:
http://www.morraye.be/ReleaseParty/Jaunty_Release_Party_Ghent_report.pdf


On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 22:01 +0200, jean7491 wrote:
> Here the report of the last IRC meeting.
> Next IRC meeting on Wednesday 20/05/2009 at 21 h. on #ubuntu-be --
> irc.freenode.net.
> 
> Present at the IRC meeting 13/05/2009 (in random order) : d1ogenes,
> JanC, wamukota, mimor, jean7491, pvandewyngaerde, Ro-G, bbartek,
> Carroarmato0, Gruber, Carroarmato0,
> 
> 1. Jaunty release party in Ghent 09/05 - Follow-up
> 
> Thank mimor for his work ! and he is now thinking about the next one !
> 
> Report will follow and pictures have been posted in the wiki.
> 
> Main problems :
> 
> - the release party was organized with a short preparation (only 2 weeks).
> 
> - not everybody is happy with the choice of Saturday evening : perhaps
> it would be more successful on a weekday ?
> 
> - a better agenda and more demonstrations
> 
> What sort of presentations ?
> 
> - presentation of useful tips and tricks, that can mean a lot of things,
> ranging from how to use mailing lists in Evolution to how to write your
> own kernel driver,
> 
> - so maybe 1 or 2 presentations for beginners
> 
> What public do you target with the presentation on a release party?
> 
> newcomers or experienced people : if you target newcomers you should 've
> another type of demo that experienced attendees.
> 
> if the purpose is to spread the word then newcomers should be the Nr one
> focus group.
> 
> For attracting new users we additionally do things like the Dipro fairs
> 
> The party is (also) for the people who do a lot of volunteer work during
> the rest of the year to come together and have some fun.
> 
> Further comments/suggestions on the previous and next release party can
> be send to Mike by mail(m...@morraye.be) or PM to mimor
> 
> 
> 2. Update preparation booth at Dipro fair Antwerpen on 24/05
> 
> About manning, the core-team is complete, but we need 2 additional
> volunteers to be "confortable" from the opening (10 h.) till 13 h. A
> request for help has been posted in the ubuntu-nl forum, but no reaction
> (yet) !
> 
> About material, no problem
> 
> 
> 3. Next events
> 
> Dipro fairs in september 2009 : dates changed, no dipro Hasselt, on
> 06/09 in Ghent and on 13/09 in Antwerpen (for your agendas !
> 
> In Ghent there is a possibility of local initiative to try to get more
> people in from wina & zeus for events in Ghent area.
> 
> 
> 4. Review of promotional material?
> 
> Before printing huge numbers of flyers, let's improve it !
> 
> mimor will take initiative, as he did for the flyer Release Party in Ghent.
> 
> Waiting new ideas about better flyers !
> 
> 
> 5. cleaning + update website and wiki
> 
> Wiki : to facilitate the work, a list of wiki pages to be checked and
> updated should be prepared.
> 
> Website : there is a web editor team
> (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-be-webeditor) in charge of the
> realisation and modification of the website. Bug reports procedure
> should be used (see * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium ) so
> that no double entries are posted and everybody can do a follow-up on
> the status.
> 
> Suggestions
> 
> - to organize something as a ubuntu-be-website-hack-weekend
> 
> - to arrange a meeting so we can inform the interested people to join
> that meeting (but waiting mongolito404 is back)
> 
> 
> 6. Next IRC meeting
> 
> Next IRC meeting Wednesday 20/05/209 at 21 h.
> 
> 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Posters Ubuntu in Dutch

[Mike Morraye]

If they aren't at Ghent already, someone can leave some at my place,
so others (such as Mattias) can  pick them up.

grtz,

Mike

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 14:33 +0200, Mattias Campe wrote:
> François Cauwe schreef:
> > Hallo Everybody,
> >
> > A while ago a made quite a lot of ubuntu posters in dutch "De weg naar 
> > de vrijheid is open voor iedereen".
> > I still have quite a lot of them, what should we do with it?
> >
> > François
> >
> >   
> Als deze gratis zijn zou ik er wel enkele kunnen gebruiken als 
> informaticaleerkracht, op school hebben we zo'n twaalftal 
> informaticaklassen. Indien ze wat kosten zal ik dat eens moeten vragen 
> aan de directie :). Mocht je er wat meer kunnen missen zou ik ze ook wel 
> een mooie plaats kunnen geven. Ik zou er in principe kunnen omkomen in 
> Gent, Kortrijk of regio Waregem.
> 
> Groeten
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting on 13/05/2009 - Report

[Koen Wybo]

> Je suis aussi francophone. Mais j'ai tendance à utiliser l'anglais
> pour les communications internes au sein d'Ubuntu-be pour des raisons
> d'efficacité. Les discussions commençant en français ou en néerlandais
> ont tendances à se confiner dans une seule langue. Avec pour effet
> encore plus de personnes isolées de la discussion. Je ne comprends pas
> vraiment le néerlandais, mais je l'effort d'essayer de comprendre un
> minimum afin de voir si je peux apporter une valeur à la discussion en
> y participant (en anglais).
> Quoiqu'il en soit, il n'était pas question de communication internes
> mais du site web. Le problème de la traduction en allemand se pase
> pour quasi toute les communications extérieures.
> 
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> 

Frans lezen en in mijn 'moedertaal' (het Nederlands) antwoorden: kan het
meer 'Belgischer'? De vele uren Frans in het lager en secundair
onderwijs zijn echt niet voor niets geweest... Wat ons weer brengt bij
een topic van zo'n 8 maand terug ;-) 

Koen Wybo 


 



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting on 13/05/2009 - Report

[Pierre Buyle]

2009/5/15 Lagneau Frédéric :
> Suggestions
> - to organize something as a ubuntu-be-website-hack-weekend
> - to arrange a meeting so we can inform the interested people to join
> that meeting (but waiting mongolito404 is back)
>
>
> Hi, I'm back but I've been quite busy since I returned from holidays.
> I really like the idea of organizing a website hack weekend (or even a
> single day). Although we need more writing (in Dutch, English, French
> and German) than hacking. If you look at the bugs list
> (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium/+bugs), most of them are
> Incomplete because we need a German translation for some strings.
>
> I'll try to be at the next IRC meeting but I don't know yet if I will
> have a working Internet connection (I'm moving this week-end).
>
>
>
> I find that communication in French is also missing.
> I am French-speaking and I feel out of the way because it is always
> difficult to me to communicate notably when that there is that of Flemish
> men.
> Englishman, I manage, but Flemish men, I understand nothing.
> Thank you.
Well I'm French speaking too. But I favor English for communication
inside Ubuntu-be because of efficiency. Disucssions started in in
French or Dutch have a tendency to stay in only on language. IMHO, it
drives more people away than English. It sure drive me away when the
discussion is in Dutch since I barely understand it. But I always do
the effort to try to understand a minimum to see if I may bring some
value by joining the discussion (in English). Most of the time it
involve automatic translation (http://translate.google.com).
Anyway, I wasn't talking about internal communications but about the
website. The issue of German translation applies to all external
communication.

And now in French...
Je suis aussi francophone. Mais j'ai tendance à utiliser l'anglais
pour les communications internes au sein d'Ubuntu-be pour des raisons
d'efficacité. Les discussions commençant en français ou en néerlandais
ont tendances à se confiner dans une seule langue. Avec pour effet
encore plus de personnes isolées de la discussion. Je ne comprends pas
vraiment le néerlandais, mais je l'effort d'essayer de comprendre un
minimum afin de voir si je peux apporter une valeur à la discussion en
y participant (en anglais).
Quoiqu'il en soit, il n'était pas question de communication internes
mais du site web. Le problème de la traduction en allemand se pase
pour quasi toute les communications extérieures.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting on 13/05/2009 - Report

[Pierre Buyle]

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:01 PM, jean7491  wrote:
> Suggestions
> - to organize something as a ubuntu-be-website-hack-weekend
> - to arrange a meeting so we can inform the interested people to join
> that meeting (but waiting mongolito404 is back)
Hi, I'm back but I've been quite busy since I returned from holidays.
I really like the idea of organizing a website hack weekend (or even a
single day). Although we need more writing (in Dutch, English, French
and German) than hacking. If you look at the bugs list
(https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium/+bugs), most of them are
Incomplete because we need a German translation for some strings.

I'll try to be at the next IRC meeting but I don't know yet if I will
have a working Internet connection (I'm moving this week-end).

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french)

[matthew]

I think the best one is

"Be Free, Be Ubuntu".

No colon (dubbelpunt), but a comma. You can't use colons in slogans like
this one. It's like... Be free, and how, when you use Ubuntu. It doens't
have power. When you use a comma, it uses more power. Be free = Be Ubuntu.

Matthew

> Or How about.
>
>
> "Be Free: Use Ubuntu!"
>
> "Wees Vrij: Gebruik Ubuntu!"
>
>
> Hans
>
>
> Op vrijdag 15-05-2009 om 13:41 uur [tijdzone +], schreef Jurgen
> Gaeremyn:
>
>> How about this one:
>>
>> "Be Free: Be Ubuntu!"
>>
>> "Wees Vrij: Wees Ubuntu!"
>>
>> Jurgen.
>>
>> >- Oorspronkelijk bericht -
>> >Van
>> : Ludo Beckers [mailto:lazy...@gmail.com]
>> >Verzonden
>> : vrijdag
>> , mei
>>  15, 2009 03:23 PM
>> >Aan
>> : ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
>> >Onderwerp
>> : Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french)
>> >
>> >"Ubuntu is vrij" sounds like he just got released from prison :-)
>> >"Ubuntu is vrije software" is much better, to my taste.
>> >
>> >Ludo
>> >
>> >> ><> >> >
>> >> >
>> >Rob Van Dyck a ?crit :
>> >> Vrij heeft meerdere betekenissen:
>> >> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrije_software
>> >> [Let trouwens op de hoofdpagina van wikipedia: Welkom op Wikipedia,
>> De
>> >> vrije encyclopedie]
>> >>
>> >> Groetjes,
>> >> Rob.
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french)

[Hans Vermeersch]

Or How about.


"Be Free: Use Ubuntu!"

"Wees Vrij: Gebruik Ubuntu!"


Hans


Op vrijdag 15-05-2009 om 13:41 uur [tijdzone +], schreef Jurgen
Gaeremyn:

> How about this one:
> 
> "Be Free: Be Ubuntu!"
> 
> "Wees Vrij: Wees Ubuntu!"
> 
> Jurgen.
> 
> >- Oorspronkelijk bericht -
> >Van
> : Ludo Beckers [mailto:lazy...@gmail.com]
> >Verzonden
> : vrijdag
> , mei
>  15, 2009 03:23 PM
> >Aan
> : ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
> >Onderwerp
> : Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french)
> >
> >"Ubuntu is vrij" sounds like he just got released from prison :-)
> >"Ubuntu is vrije software" is much better, to my taste.
> >
> >Ludo
> >
> > >< > >
> > >
> >Rob Van Dyck a ?crit :
> >> Vrij heeft meerdere betekenissen:
> >> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrije_software
> >> [Let trouwens op de hoofdpagina van wikipedia: Welkom op Wikipedia, De
> >> vrije encyclopedie]
> >>
> >> Groetjes,
> >> Rob.
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french)

[Rob Van Dyck]

I like it!

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Jurgen Gaeremyn
 wrote:
> How about this one:
>
> "Be Free: Be Ubuntu!"
>
> "Wees Vrij: Wees Ubuntu!"
>
> Jurgen.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french)

[Jurgen Gaeremyn]

How about this one:

"Be Free: Be Ubuntu!"

"Wees Vrij: Wees Ubuntu!"

Jurgen.

>- Oorspronkelijk bericht -
>Van
: Ludo Beckers [mailto:lazy...@gmail.com]
>Verzonden
: vrijdag
, mei
 15, 2009 03:23 PM
>Aan
: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
>Onderwerp
: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french)
>
>"Ubuntu is vrij" sounds like he just got released from prison :-)
>"Ubuntu is vrije software" is much better, to my taste.
>
>Ludo
>
><
>
>Rob Van Dyck a ?crit :
>> Vrij heeft meerdere betekenissen:
>> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrije_software
>> [Let trouwens op de hoofdpagina van wikipedia: Welkom op Wikipedia, De
>> vrije encyclopedie]
>>
>> Groetjes,
>> Rob.
>



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french)

[Ludo Beckers]

"Ubuntu is vrij" sounds like he just got released from prison :-)
"Ubuntu is vrije software" is much better, to my taste.

Ludo

 Vrij heeft meerdere betekenissen:
> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrije_software
> [Let trouwens op de hoofdpagina van wikipedia: Welkom op Wikipedia, De
> vrije encyclopedie]
>
> Groetjes,
> Rob.
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french) (jean7491)

[Pierre Buyle]

Hi,

Thank you for your proposition, here are my comments: The "Loco" text
is barely readable, the font is hard to read even when not rotated. I
don"t understand whats the man (?) in the middle stands for. The red
and yelow color are too bright and looks "plain". The whole logo
doesn't scale, at 64px or 32px the text will be unreadable and the man
un-recognizable. This it cannot be used as icon.

Btw , I did an "Ubuntu-be" logo for the Launchpad page, see
https://launchpadlibrarian.net/24372623/ubuntu-be.mugshot.png. It's
the "plain" Ubuntu circle of friend using the Belgian color (from the
Tango[1] palette). I used this logo as base for the ubuntu-be web
editors and event team (also on Launchpad, see
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-be-webeditor and
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-be-events). For these I simply added a
standard Tango icon in the middle of the circle. They are all in SVG
format on my HD.


[1] http://tango.freedesktop.org/

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Patsy D. - AKWABATIC
 wrote:
> Voici une proposition de logo. It's just a try and it may be reworked upon
> your remarks and comments. Best Regards.
>
> Ludo Beckers a écrit :
>
> Op de poster: "Ubuntu is vrij" is wat eigenaardig.
> "Ubuntu is kostenloos" misschien?
>
> Verder heb ik vluchtig de presentatie doorgelezen; daar staan ook wat
> vreemde constructies in en aardig wat tekst die voor verbetering vatbaar is.
> Als u mij een gewone tekst stuurt zonder de speciale opmaak, wil ik een van
> de dagen wel iets terugsturen met voorstellen.
> Ik ben niet thuis in powerpoint presentaties e.d., en zou dus alles moeten
> knippen/plakken; werkt dus iets sneller met normale tekst :-)
>
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>> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:01:01 +0200
>> From: jean7491 
>> Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french)
>> To: Ubuntu Belgium 
>> Message-ID: <4a0b18ed.8070...@free.fr>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hi to all,
>>
>> Since januari 2009 i am updating the promotion material used by
>> Ubuntu-be (presentation, flyers, poster, in Dutch and French) :
>>
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs#Print%20Documents%20&%20Presentation
>>
>> But nobody is perfect !
>>
>> Feel free to mail your comment to improve these products !
>>
>>  
>>
>> Sinds januari 2009 ben ik bezig met het aanpassen en verbeteren van de
>> promotie materiaal van Ubuntu-be (slideshow, strooibriefjes en poster).
>>
>> Zeker kan het nog beter, als jullie opmerkingen hebben voor verbetering,
>> laaat het mij dan weten !
>>
>> 
>>
>> Depuis janvier 2009 je me suis lanc? dans la mise ? jour et
>> l'am?lioration du mat?riel de promotion d'Ubuntu-be (pr?sentation,
>> tracts et affiche) ? .
>>
>>
>> Mais personne n'est parfait et j'attends vos commentaires pour am?liorer
>> ces r?alisations.
>>
>> Jean
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Posters Ubuntu in Dutch

[Mattias Campe]

François Cauwe schreef:
> Hallo Everybody,
>
> A while ago a made quite a lot of ubuntu posters in dutch "De weg naar 
> de vrijheid is open voor iedereen".
> I still have quite a lot of them, what should we do with it?
>
> François
>
>   
Als deze gratis zijn zou ik er wel enkele kunnen gebruiken als 
informaticaleerkracht, op school hebben we zo'n twaalftal 
informaticaklassen. Indien ze wat kosten zal ik dat eens moeten vragen 
aan de directie :). Mocht je er wat meer kunnen missen zou ik ze ook wel 
een mooie plaats kunnen geven. Ik zou er in principe kunnen omkomen in 
Gent, Kortrijk of regio Waregem.

Groeten
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french) (jean7491)

[Alain Baudrez]

On http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html the definition of 'free
software' is as follows:

Free software is a matter of liberty, not price. To understand the concept,
you should think of free as in free speech, not as in free beer.

Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy, distribute,
study, change and improve the software. More precisely, it refers to four
kinds of freedom, for the users of the software:

   - The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
   - The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs
   (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
   - The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor
   (freedom 2).
   - The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements (and
   modified versions in general) to the public, so that the whole community
   benefits (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

On http://people.mech.kuleuven.be/~bruyninc/etos/ they use the term 'vrije
software' :

Vrije Software wordt in het Engels vaak ook ``*Free
Software
*'' of ``*Open Source software *'' genoemd. Het
woordje ``*free*'' schept vaak verwarring met
*freeware
*, omdat velen er enkel de betekenis van ``gratis'' in herkennen.
Free in ``Free Software'' heeft *in de eerste plaats* de betekenis van *vrij
* in de zin van *eigendom* (d.w.z., de software is eigendom van niemand), en
pas in tweede instantie van *kostprijs* (d.w.z., de software is gratis).

So, I suggest to translate 'free' with 'vrije software'

Alain


2009/5/15 jean7491 

> It is difficult to translate "free" in "vrij" or "libre", there are
> nuances  according the different languages.
> An expert in linguistic has perhaps a better solution ?
>
> Jean
>
> Rob Van Dyck a écrit :
> > Vrij heeft meerdere betekenissen:
> > http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrije_software
> > [Let trouwens op de hoofdpagina van wikipedia: Welkom op Wikipedia, De
> > vrije encyclopedie]
> >
> > Groetjes,
> > Rob.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Ludo Beckers  wrote:
> >
> >> Op de poster: "Ubuntu is vrij" is wat eigenaardig.
> >> "Ubuntu is kostenloos" misschien?
> >>
> >> Verder heb ik vluchtig de presentatie doorgelezen; daar staan ook wat
> >> vreemde constructies in en aardig wat tekst die voor verbetering vatbaar
> is.
> >> Als u mij een gewone tekst stuurt zonder de speciale opmaak, wil ik een
> van
> >> de dagen wel iets terugsturen met voorstellen.
> >> Ik ben niet thuis in powerpoint presentaties e.d., en zou dus alles
> moeten
> >> knippen/plakken; werkt dus iets sneller met normale tekst :-)
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:00 PM,  
> >> wrote:
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> >>> Hi to all,
> >>>
> >>> Since januari 2009 i am updating the promotion material used by
> >>> Ubuntu-be (presentation, flyers, poster, in Dutch and French) :
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs#Print%20Documents%20&%20Presentation
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>> Zeker kan het nog beter, als jullie opmerkingen hebben voor
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> >>> laaat het mij dan weten !
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> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french) (jean7491)

[jean7491]

It is difficult to translate "free" in "vrij" or "libre", there are 
nuances  according the different languages.
An expert in linguistic has perhaps a better solution ?

Jean

Rob Van Dyck a écrit :
> Vrij heeft meerdere betekenissen:
> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrije_software
> [Let trouwens op de hoofdpagina van wikipedia: Welkom op Wikipedia, De
> vrije encyclopedie]
>
> Groetjes,
> Rob.
>
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Ludo Beckers  wrote:
>   
>> Op de poster: "Ubuntu is vrij" is wat eigenaardig.
>> "Ubuntu is kostenloos" misschien?
>>
>> Verder heb ik vluchtig de presentatie doorgelezen; daar staan ook wat
>> vreemde constructies in en aardig wat tekst die voor verbetering vatbaar is.
>> Als u mij een gewone tekst stuurt zonder de speciale opmaak, wil ik een van
>> de dagen wel iets terugsturen met voorstellen.
>> Ik ben niet thuis in powerpoint presentaties e.d., en zou dus alles moeten
>> knippen/plakken; werkt dus iets sneller met normale tekst :-)
>>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:00 PM,  
>> wrote:
>> 
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>>> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:01:01 +0200
>>> From: jean7491 
>>> Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french)
>>> To: Ubuntu Belgium 
>>> Message-ID: <4a0b18ed.8070...@free.fr>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>> Hi to all,
>>>
>>> Since januari 2009 i am updating the promotion material used by
>>> Ubuntu-be (presentation, flyers, poster, in Dutch and French) :
>>>
>>>
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs#Print%20Documents%20&%20Presentation
>>>
>>> But nobody is perfect !
>>>
>>> Feel free to mail your comment to improve these products !
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Sinds januari 2009 ben ik bezig met het aanpassen en verbeteren van de
>>> promotie materiaal van Ubuntu-be (slideshow, strooibriefjes en poster).
>>>
>>> Zeker kan het nog beter, als jullie opmerkingen hebben voor verbetering,
>>> laaat het mij dan weten !
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Depuis janvier 2009 je me suis lanc? dans la mise ? jour et
>>> l'am?lioration du mat?riel de promotion d'Ubuntu-be (pr?sentation,
>>> tracts et affiche) ? .
>>>
>>>
>>> Mais personne n'est parfait et j'attends vos commentaires pour am?liorer
>>> ces r?alisations.
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting on 13/05/2009 - Report

[jean7491]

Jurgen,

Thanks for your engagement with us in the booth at Dipro fair Antwerpen.

About hardware, i think we have enough material, I will update soon the
wiki.

I hope to be on place at 9 h. (I'm coming from Ostende) to install the
booth and organize the work with the team. You are welcome  between 9h.
and 9.30 h.

Jurgen Gaeremyn a écrit :
>> Van: Jan Claeys [mailto:ubu...@janc.be]
>> Verzonden: vrijdag, mei 15, 2009 12:24 AM
>> Aan: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Onderwerp: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting on 13/05/2009 - Report
>>
>> Op donderdag 14-05-2009 om 20:47 uur [tijdzone +], schreef Jurgen
>> Gaeremyn:
>> 
>>> I just had a talk with my wife, we reorganized our weekend a little
>>> bit.
>>> I'll be there on the Dipro fair in Antwerp. (is it interesting for me
>>> to bring my computer? Or is it overkill?)
>>>   
>> I don't know exactly how many people will come & what equipment they
>> will have, but I'm sure Jean knows.  Maybe it's useful to say what you
>> can bring (in case yours is more useful or weighs less or something).
>> 
>
> It won't weigh less... it's quite a beefy computer (quad core, 4 gig, new 
> nvidia card) in a black tower case Antec (not the gamer type of case, but a 
> pretty business case) with a dual monitor setup (2 different sizes of 
> monitors)
> I've also got a Wacom tablet (working on the pressure thingie), but I'm not 
> an artist enough to go drawing there...
>
> I've got Ubuntu 9.04 (32 bits) running (what else?) and it's pretty much the 
> default template, but quite some chemical tools (my wife's a chemist, I'm on 
> my way to convert her away from her dreaded Windows box - Vista helping me 
> out on her computer)
>
> Jean,
> should I bring it?
>
>   
>>> What time are you there to set up the booth?
>>>   
>> Around 9h-9h30 (the fair starts at 10h so then everything has to be
>> ready).
>> 
>
> Okido, I'll be there around that time.
>
> Jurgen.
>
>
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software cost of moving back to Windows

[kenneth.westeli...@pandora.be]

I left a comment on this post. I'm using Linux for over 10 years now and I have 
to disagree on some parts of your post. Even as a Windows user you can benefit 
from the efforts of the Open Source community and use Open Source / Free 
software for your everyday tasks. In which case, you only have to buy a license 
for the OS. The latter probably comes pre-installed on your PC / portable 
(unfortunately), so in this case there's no additional cost :(

>- Oorspronkelijk bericht -
>Van
: Alain Baudrez [mailto:a.baud...@gmail.com]
>Verzonden
: vrijdag
, mei
 15, 2009 10:38 AM
>Aan
: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
>Onderwerp
: [Ubuntu-be] Software cost of moving back to Windows
>
>On my blog
>http://wamukota.blogspot.com/2009/05/windows-equivalents-for-linux-software.htmlI
>entered a small article about how much it would cost me to leave Linux
>behind and go (back) to MS-Windows.
>
>Windows is indeed for the happy few and rich...
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french) (jean7491)

[Rob Van Dyck]

Vrij heeft meerdere betekenissen:
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrije_software
[Let trouwens op de hoofdpagina van wikipedia: Welkom op Wikipedia, De
vrije encyclopedie]

Groetjes,
Rob.


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Ludo Beckers  wrote:
> Op de poster: "Ubuntu is vrij" is wat eigenaardig.
> "Ubuntu is kostenloos" misschien?
>
> Verder heb ik vluchtig de presentatie doorgelezen; daar staan ook wat
> vreemde constructies in en aardig wat tekst die voor verbetering vatbaar is.
> Als u mij een gewone tekst stuurt zonder de speciale opmaak, wil ik een van
> de dagen wel iets terugsturen met voorstellen.
> Ik ben niet thuis in powerpoint presentaties e.d., en zou dus alles moeten
> knippen/plakken; werkt dus iets sneller met normale tekst :-)
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:00 PM,  
> wrote:
>> Send ubuntu-be mailing list submissions to
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>>
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:01:01 +0200
>> From: jean7491 
>> Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french)
>> To: Ubuntu Belgium 
>> Message-ID: <4a0b18ed.8070...@free.fr>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hi to all,
>>
>> Since januari 2009 i am updating the promotion material used by
>> Ubuntu-be (presentation, flyers, poster, in Dutch and French) :
>>
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs#Print%20Documents%20&%20Presentation
>>
>> But nobody is perfect !
>>
>> Feel free to mail your comment to improve these products !
>>
>>  
>>
>> Sinds januari 2009 ben ik bezig met het aanpassen en verbeteren van de
>> promotie materiaal van Ubuntu-be (slideshow, strooibriefjes en poster).
>>
>> Zeker kan het nog beter, als jullie opmerkingen hebben voor verbetering,
>> laaat het mij dan weten !
>>
>> 
>>
>> Depuis janvier 2009 je me suis lanc? dans la mise ? jour et
>> l'am?lioration du mat?riel de promotion d'Ubuntu-be (pr?sentation,
>> tracts et affiche) ? .
>>
>>
>> Mais personne n'est parfait et j'attends vos commentaires pour am?liorer
>> ces r?alisations.
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french) (jean7491)

[Patsy D. - AKWABATIC]

Voici une proposition de logo. It's just a try and it may be reworked
upon your remarks and comments. Best Regards.

Ludo Beckers a écrit :

  
Op de poster: "Ubuntu is vrij" is wat eigenaardig.
"Ubuntu is kostenloos" misschien?  
  
Verder heb ik vluchtig de presentatie doorgelezen; daar staan ook wat
vreemde constructies in en aardig wat tekst die voor verbetering
vatbaar is.
Als u mij een gewone tekst stuurt zonder de speciale opmaak, wil ik een
van de dagen wel iets terugsturen met voorstellen.
Ik ben niet thuis in powerpoint presentaties e.d., en zou dus alles
moeten knippen/plakken; werkt dus iets sneller met normale tekst :-)
  
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> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:01:01 +0200
> From: jean7491 
> Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Promotion material (dutch and french)
> To: Ubuntu Belgium 
> Message-ID: <4a0b18ed.8070...@free.fr>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi to all,
>
> Since januari 2009 i am updating the promotion material used by
> Ubuntu-be (presentation, flyers, poster, in Dutch and French) :
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs#Print%20Documents%20&%20Presentation
>
> But nobody is perfect !
>
> Feel free to mail your comment to improve these products !
>
>  
>
> Sinds januari 2009 ben ik bezig met het aanpassen en verbeteren
van de
> promotie materiaal van Ubuntu-be (slideshow, strooibriefjes en
poster).
>
> Zeker kan het nog beter, als jullie opmerkingen hebben voor
verbetering,
> laaat het mij dan weten !
>
> 
>
> Depuis janvier 2009 je me suis lanc? dans la mise ? jour et
> l'am?lioration du mat?riel de promotion d'Ubuntu-be (pr?sentation,
> tracts et affiche) ? .
>
>
> Mais personne n'est parfait et j'attends vos commentaires pour
am?liorer
> ces r?alisations.
>
> Jean
>
>
>
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[Ubuntu-be] Software cost of moving back to Windows

[Alain Baudrez]

On my blog
http://wamukota.blogspot.com/2009/05/windows-equivalents-for-linux-software.htmlI
entered a small article about how much it would cost me to leave Linux
behind and go (back) to MS-Windows.

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