[Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon

2014-02-26 Thread Daniel Moore
Thank you for all the help and especially thank you for this fix mnrl.
But I cant seem to get it to work, ive tested out various way of adding
this ppa and applying the fix but i keep getting duplicate ppa error and
it doesn't work, now it keeps wanting me to restart Ubuntu to apply
changes, i do and then it says to restart again. If there is a guide
somewhere for the exact steps to take when doing this then that would be
great, im sure the problem is on my part i just have no idea what to do
to fix it :(

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[Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon

2014-02-26 Thread Daniel Moore
Ok i ran those commands and i ended up getting a similar error just like
before. I attached the text file with the comment.

** Attachment added: unity error for minimize on click
   
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[Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon

2014-02-26 Thread Daniel Moore
Oh and i forgot to mention, i am running ubuntu 12.04, also i am still
currently working to figure this issue out but nothing so far, another
thing is that im not sure of that file was uploaded so if it wasnt let
me know and ill post it in the next comment.

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[Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon

2014-02-25 Thread Daniel Moore
I hate to be the one who argues, especially on such a professional forum
over something that doesn't help the topic at hand. This feature was
available in 12.04, either by users or by the Ubuntu team themselves,
i'm not sure of which. What i do know is that this feature was a
welcomed addition to the user experience. Also you think i'm not aware
of this issue being opened for so long. Its because I have basically
been waiting from the beginning for the Ubuntu team to fix this mistake.

Next time you get on to tell someone their wrong because you just want
to sound smart, or whatever your problem is. Be it trolling or whatever,
please refrain from posting anything that doesn't help this issue, this
is a bug report and discussion about the topic of adding the minimize on
launcher click feature to Ubuntu, so if your not gonna be of any help,
then stay off the forum. :)

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[Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon

2014-02-25 Thread Daniel Moore
Amazing, i was just looking through the comments and found that you
Phillip posted something ABOUT the topic even if it was just one little
thing, i take back my previous comment, however I will explain that just
posting one little thing, isn't going to make much of a difference. This
very reason is why we need to talk more about the relevance of this
feature rather than just complain about it.

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[Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon

2014-02-25 Thread Daniel Moore
Forgive me for starting the comments in such a way, I am simply tired of
seeing the Ubuntu team make poor choices in terms of functionality. Some
can be good and some can be bad but unfortunately right now the bad out
weigh the good.

 And this feature is still available by users for at least = 12.04,
and given that your first comment starts with PLEASE PLEASE
PLEASE, it doesn't sound like your posts are of any help here as
you say in doesn't help this issue.

Please direct me towards a PPA that i can install to allow this feature
for 13.10 or 14.04, that is if you can which i highly doubt is possible
without having to build unity from scratch.

 Also, you got something wrong there, this is not supposed to be a
forum where anyone posts his/her useless opinions, this is supposed to
be a *bug tracker*.

Honestly i don't really care what its called. The point of the matter is
to comment on the situation and make it a bigger deal. I know that the
Ubuntu team has decided that they will not fix this issue but if we
continue to heat this argument then maybe that will change, but sitting
here complaining about how other people are wrong isn't helping
anything.

The point of this discussion is to help the Ubuntu team understand what
we find is wrong with the current functionality and how they can go
about fixing it.

 Though commenting here won't have any effect on the official versions
of Ubuntu anyway, Canonical has decided it neither likes the proposed
feature nor does it like customization.

I cannot help but feel you are missing the point of this conversation
entirely. If there is a problem and no one talks about it or makes any
comments about how there is something wrong, does that problem ever get
fixed? NO!

Please add reason and persuasion to your comments and MAYBE the Ubuntu
team will see this and decide to attempt a fix.

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[Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon

2014-02-25 Thread Daniel Moore
lol that is a good phrase, you should take your own advice because you
sure haven't added anything to the discussion except your own ignorance
of the matter :)

congrats on proving my point

best regards lmao

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[Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon

2014-02-25 Thread Daniel Moore
Thanks for the help Neptilo, i tried the first fix but no luck, im not
sure why but i got error after i upgraded to 14.04 so that might have
had something to do with it.

As for the second fix, im gonna work on that tonight and see. If i could
get this feature back id gladly go back to 12.04 but im worried that
since they have updated 12.04 to 12.04.4 then it may not work. Who
knows, cant hurt to try.

Thank you for your help it was much appreciated

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[Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon

2014-02-24 Thread Daniel Moore
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Ayatana design team, development team, whoever is in charge of
overseeing this subject!

I beg of you, in the nicest way i can possibly ask, please fix this
issue. This single issue is the bane of my existence, i cant seem to
adjust but i was able too in 12.04 BECAUSE it had this feature. This was
the key feature that made me turn away from windows and even mac because
it was a complete system, it had all the functionality that i needed to
be very very productive. I EVEN HAD ONE OF MY COLLEGE PROFESSORS TRY
THIS OUT, EVEN HE SAID IT WAS AMAZING! but now this feature is gone and
i find Ubuntu clunky and hard to use because of all the screen clutter
that exists. Like the bug description says, that design would be
perfect, but if that is too hard to implement, at least give us the
benefit of the doubt by just adding this feature to single windows
instead of a window stack. I can try to live with this and id be more
than happy to return to Ubuntu.

This shouldn't be hard to do since i had this implemented on a 13.04
install but it was buggy cause unity didn't agree with this modification
so ultimately it was unusable but regardless this feature would make
14.04 perfect. I know i speak for a lot of people when i say that this
would be ideal in terms of functionality. I already feel that unity is
nice in that it offers a different desktop experience but one that is
well thought out in terms of functionality, however this one simple
issue, to me, has caused its use to be difficult even new users find
it hard to use because they normally come from windows and mac and say
why doesn't the launcher minimize my app, that doesn't make any sense!
Then they tell me they don't like it and want to go back to windows,
myself included.

So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! I will join a design team if i have to,
i will gladly contribute to this cause, i am a computer science graduate
so i know i can at least be of some assistance.

Also kudos on the integrated menu, i was amazed by that cause i didn't
think there was a way to make it better, but you continue to amaze. Now
if we can just get this one little tiny thing in there it'd be PERFECT!

Thank you Ubuntu team for all of your hard work in designing probably
THE nicest desktop environment in the world, and to make it even better,
its free! for this i thank you!

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[Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon

2014-02-24 Thread Daniel Moore
Absolutely not, this feature was vital to my work flow. In fact it was
to nearly half the user base for Ubuntu.

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Re: Brisbane Release party / beers?

2009-10-08 Thread Daniel Moore
Heyhey Brisbane here, northside and Yep I'd be keen for doing
something to celebrate 9.10. :)





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Re: usb bluetooth dongles

2009-09-21 Thread Daniel Moore
That's right.  I bought one of those $7 - $15 dongles from MSY and it
works perfect in Ubuntu.


Dan



On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Barry Williams bazzaw...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think the same however I wouldn't go to dick smiths to get it I just
 checked and they are selling theirs for around $50 you can pick up on
 from $7 - $15 from msy.

 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Frode Egeland egel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:44, Lisa Milne l...@ltmnet.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 Just wondering if anyone can recommend a good usb bluetooth dongle, if
 there's one from Disk Smith or anywhere that works with 'nix/ubuntu etc.

 Haven't used the things before but need one now, so any help would be
 appreciated.

 Ta,
 Lisa


 Hi Lisa,

 I'd be surprised if you can find one that *isn't* compatible...
 Just take a liveCD with you to the shop, and ask to try the dongle with it.

 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Brown rocks. Get over it and being default.

2008-08-12 Thread Daniel Moore

On 13/08/2008, at 8:08 AM, Julian Oliver wrote:



 thankfully Ubuntu is taking something of a risk here, the last thing  
 the
 world needs is another blue theme.

I disagree, it might be hard for a bunch of GUI artists to see but a  
computer interface is not a piece of art. It doesn't need to stand out  
it needs to blend in, it needs to provide the minimum functionality  
with the minimum fuss. That's why al these mock-ups miss the point,  
sure they look nice and they're made by very talented people, but they  
put the window manager into centre stage and not the applications  
themselves. And it's been mentioned before, brown and orange are not  
good neutral colours, they're overpowering and ugly when used in this  
way - even though there have been some really very talented designs  
submitted that minimise the negative aspects of these colours.

To be sure brown and orange are wonderful colours when used properly,  
but if you want to compete with osx in terms of graphics go with  
neutral colours,  IMHO preferably gradients of grey.


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Re: AVI/DivX to DVD

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Moore
Hey Sam

The best one I found and only just used this week actually was called
DeVeDe and can be installed from Add / Remove...  It worked perfectly
and quickly!


Dan



On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Junin Toiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys,

 Just wondering if anyone can suggest an application to convert AVI
 files (namely DivX)?

 I've done a lot of searching and can't seem to find anything that just works..

 I know there are ways to do this with scripts and term apps etc but I
 don't have the time nor patience at the moment to do it this way.

 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Daniel Moore
Like Mac but cooler, was the general idea, right? At least that's the  
story that made it to /.
I'm sure Steve wouldn't be seen dead in a brown or orange skivy :-P  
(tongue in cheek).

On 24/07/2008, at 10:52 PM, Cory K. wrote:

 Salane Ashcraft wrote:
 I just received an email from
 another Gtk programmer who I recruited to help out.

 Get them on the ML. I *really* hope they work out. I know with Studio
 I've gone through about 20 people I recruited. It always comes  
 down to
 me and maybe 1 or 2 other cool people around our community. :(

 I'm my experience things got done best when the designers/artists  
 worked
 directly with the person who has the final word. I really don't think
 Mark will get what he wants 'till he's on this list and involved.

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Re: Microsoft CDs

2008-07-02 Thread Daniel Moore
I can't remember if these came from here but two I like recently:


The box said, You need Windows XP or better... so I installed Ubuntu!

and

Microsoft gives you Windows; Ubuntu gives you the whole house!



Dano



On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 I came upon this pearle while browsing.  Thought it might be appreciated
 in this forum:

 Apparently, if you play Microsoft CDs backwards they play satanic
 messages. Worse still, if you play them forwards they install Windows.

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Re: Ubuntu

2008-05-12 Thread Daniel Moore
Hi Julius

You can certain install in 157MB of RAM, however I would most strongly
suggest using the Alternate Desktop CD to install with.  On the
www.ubuntu.com download page, you can check Check here if you need
the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD,
instead it uses a text-based installer, to download this version of
the installer.

I have successfully installed Ubuntu on 128MB of RAM with the
alternate CD without any issues (however the OS was a little 'laggy'
when running due to the low memory), whereas using the LiveCD install
would virtually make this impossile with this amount of RAM.

As a general guide, if your system has anything less than 384MB of
RAM, use the Alternate CD to install Ubuntu.

I hope this is of some help!


Daniel



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Re: [ubuntu-art] artwork for the Ubuntu idea brainstorming website

2007-12-29 Thread Daniel Moore
BeOS? How come some of the window bars are on the left and some are  
on the right of the window? Can the bar things be dragged around?  
Nice starwars font by the way ;-)

On 29/12/2007, at 8:12 PM, volvoguy wrote:

 On Dec 28, 2007 5:16 PM, Troy James Sobotka  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1 - I have long promoted the ditching of the Ubuntu title font
 in everything outside of the word Ubuntu.  Are you against changing
 the 'logo' to a font outside of the Ubuntu title font family?  It
 is a sub-optimal font for anything other than the Ubuntu name.

 You'll probably have to take that one up with Canonical / Mark
 Shuttleworth himself. They paid for that logo design and unless things
 have changed a lot in my absence, logo modification isn't an option.
 The Ubuntu title font also really isn't a general use, full featured
 typeface. I think Andrew  completed the additional letters (besides
 ubuntu) for Ubuntu-related uses (although the license allows other
 uses) like adding other text to Ubuntu themed graphics that would fit
 with the official logo. (Andrew, correct me if I'm wrong!)

 I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble - anyone can create graphic
 elements for the UI or otherwise that don't use the typographic logo
 or do employ fonts other than the Ubuntu title font, but as far as
 getting the actual distro logo changed - I don't think it's gonna
 happen.

 That's just my $.02 (+/- $.02). :-)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

2007-12-19 Thread Daniel Moore






While it doesn't sound like a big deal, it's just another thing to  
look at. If I rounded the corner then the button would need to be  
1 or 2 pixels lower to accommodate the top-edge, breaking the  
users ability to slam.



You can't slam with floating (non maximised) windows. Mac user can  
always slam because of the unified tool bar at the top.







--Ken Vermette

On Dec 19, 2007 6:28 AM, George Brooke  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about making the window close minimise ect. icons rounded off  
at the top rather like the main menu.


solar.george


Ken Vermette wrote:


It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not, it kind grows on you.  
I hated my windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of  
hideous window ideas that I hope will never see the light of day.


Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll  
proballbly look odd on the theme until some widgets are added.  
When they get added though, hopefully the additional orange in  
the theme will make it feel more balanced. I lightened up the  
brown and slightly altered the orange - so it should hopefully be  
a bit better. I can't really use any other colours (even if I  
think they'll look better) because I want to stick to the  
official Ubuntu colour pallet.


I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular  
colours; I don't think there will be a way to change the colours  
via the colour menu - unless there's a hue-shifting algorithm  
involved (similar to the one implemented in Vista or Windowblinds).


Anyway, there's another update up on the wiki:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/ 
BasicIdeals?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=fulldesk%28svg% 
29_v3_2.jpg


the XCF and SVG sources have been updated aswell; the XCF  
actually has everything in it now, I uploaded a half-finished XCF  
file on the first version, but the new one will be much better  
for people who want to use or edit content because it's complete.  
For anyone wanting to make a mockup using the files, the Mock-ups  
are first edited/rendered in InkScape, then are imported into the  
bottom layer of the XCF. You could delete the BG in inkscape and  
export a transparent PNG to create a render suitable for porting  
into other themes.


Thanks as always,
--Ken V

On Dec 18, 2007 12:42 PM, Corey Woodworth  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At first I didn't like this theme, but it is really growing on  
me. Of coarse there are things that still need work. The orange  
in the theme feels out of place. It just doesn't fit it because  
of how heavy the browns are. I think using white as the selected  
item color in the menus would look a lot better. I also think  
that the notification area needs to use different colors. It  
needs to stand out more. Now it hardly stands out at all since it  
is the same color as the background behind it, and of most  
windows. Speaking of the windows, I really like the way the  
titlebar and menu bar are visuially connected int the active  
window. In the unactive window where it looks like just a  
gradient from brown to tan looks very ugly to me.


I think this theme is about the prettiest a brown theme could be,  
but we would still get a lot of flac from the brown haters if  
this were default. I hope that it works well with the color  
options in the appearence settings so that keeping the theme but  
using a different  color is just a couple of clicks worth of work.


Corey


On Dec 17, 2007 9:30 PM, Ken Vermette [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
Got the link, and thanks to Racoqster for the quick post on the  
blog. I know about every language BUT python, so I can try to  
learn python this weekend and assist in coding later if  
absolutely necessary; Would it be possible to work without the  
configurator?



https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals

The Wiki has been updated to include a mockup with all current  
elements - and links to the SVG source and XCF source are  
directly below the image. I'll be downloading some themes that  
resemble mine (in their technical composition) and start to  
figure out how we could get this beast into a live environment!  
The XCF source is almost useless, but it can make life easy if  
anyone wants to make a mockup with icons  text.


The large mockup doesn't include the most recent requests  
(several of which will be integrated), but it gives the closest  
impression to what a full desktop would look like right now -  
barring the lack of widgets.


Thanks all;
-- Ken V


On Dec 17, 2007 7:51 PM, Iacopo Masi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:

On 12/17/07, Ken Vermette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is going into  
mockups. I need
 to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea Cimitan, and see  
about getting
 information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I start making  
the mockups

 live graphics.

Cimi will release the code when a Murrine Configurator should be
available so we 

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Mockup

2007-12-18 Thread Daniel Moore
The colours work really well. I'm not a big fan of the superfluous  
transparent borders or the faded out menus. I'd like to see  
everything much more crisp, then I think this theme should be a  
serious contender. The dark brown is a fantastic touch.



On 19/12/2007, at 10:40 AM, Thomas L.G wrote:

 Oh well since we're all mocking up now, let me throw in a  
 suggestion as
 well:
 http://www.portefolje.net/div/mockup.jpg

 Based on Ken's suggestion on this list. Some modifications (darker top
 area + some reflection, hover, consistent menus, dark notifications  
 with
 some reflection). Another wallpaper (stock-image from sxc.hu), and
 another top-panel. Please ignore the ugly notification-icons at top
 right and other glitches - it is all just photoshop mocking! Also, I
 didn't make any minimize/maximize-icons yet, I really don't think we
 should use the Vista-like ones...

 - Thomas L.G

 AA Boy skrev:
 Oops, for some reason teh link got deleted. Oh well, here it is  
 again! :D
 http://www.smartboy.salocinlinux.org/db/ubuntu-mockup.png

 On 12/18/07, *Corey Woodworth* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 It looks invisible to me.

 On Dec 18, 2007 4:32 PM, AA Boy  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I have been thinking about what I would like Ubuntu to look
 like, and made a mockup. Pretty much every shape in this
 except the panel background and wallpaper is made using SVGs.
 I may supply sources latter if anyone is interested in  
 them. I
 didn't do windows yet (since I use Enlightenment, and don't
 want to change GNOME's theme right now), but I think this may
 be enough to start with. Anyway, please comment. I tried to
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Icon theme suggestion

2007-11-28 Thread Daniel Moore
Although artistically very talented I found them a bit too much for  
icons on a desktop. They draw too much attention, I also think the  
unflinching use of a few colours (orange I am talking about you)  
detracted a lot from the look of the icons.

You only want to find an icon when you need it, they don't all need  
to scream at you all of the time.

I think a few subtle changes could make this set workable though,  
thinner lines, more use of subdued, natural colours (colours that  
would be found in the real world object that the icon represents).

D.

On 29/11/2007, at 4:45 AM, Dalton Miyabara wrote:

 Wow,

 I really like these icons. The glossy one´s are the things that  
 look glossy in real life, like the monitor
 and the folder.

 So, I guess that this iconset fits with the tango rules.


 Cheers,
 Dalton



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 Hey check out this icon theme. I dont think its too glossy. This  
 seems to be
 right up Hardy's ally.

 What do you guys think?

 http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Blangerine?content=70165

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Re: [ubuntu-art] yet another mockup (greenish one)

2007-11-25 Thread Daniel Moore


I agree with both points of view. People are always a bit sensitive  
about work that they have done, so it might make for a more effective  
message if a more constructive approach were taken. The mockup is  
good, I mean technically it would make a window manager that would  
work, and it looks clean. However it does seem rather derivative, and  
doesn't inspire much excitement and it's not very original.

So I'd encourage the author to try again, but have him know that his  
work will have a much better chance of survival if he follows the  
guidelines, which where well pointed out in the last post...

Regards,

Daniel.



 I for one, found it very based in reality and not intimidating.  
 Actually, I
 would have said about the same thing. Asking questions of the  
 author is a
 good way for everyone to sit back and think about what they are  
 doing before
 they start drawing things which include unrealistic things like  
 changing our
 logos/branding. Not to mention the fact that we are trying to move  
 away from
 the gloss, not towards it - anything that everyone else already  
 does today is
 something that we do not want to do. As a rule we want to move  
 forward and
 not just keep up with the others.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Curiousity:)

2007-11-22 Thread Daniel Moore

On 22/11/2007, at 5:41 PM, Donn wrote:

 I think another big turn off for us Linux / FreeBSD users is the fact
 that KDE is a direct rip off of Windows, and that's not fun,
 I don't grok this. How is the essential layout and set of concepts  
 between
 Gnome, KDE and Windows any different?
 Taskbar, tray, Start button, panels, windows, min/max/close buttons,
 desktops, icons, drag/drop, etc.

It's non essential. It's pure frivolity.  But I always felt that KDE  
was much closer in look and feel (out of the box so to speak) to  
Windows 95 than Gnome was.  And you know, that was a good thing,  
according to people that set up low cost internet cafes and such.  
They could have computers that looked and felt like windows at a  
fraction of the cost. I just didn't think it was 'fun'.

 I think both 'lean and mean' and 'ultra configureable' are both
 important open source traits.
 We chose Gnome...
 In my experience, installing Gnu/Linux on *very* old machines,  
 Gnome was just
 too slow. KDE was much better but Xubuntu was best of that breed.
   Actually, (I can't recall the name, but) Afterstep (I think, or  
 one of
 the 'steps') was the best overall for speed and functionality.

Afterstep was good. Very good.  But then again anything seemed  
magnificent compare to the likes of twm. That default background was  
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Curiousity:)

2007-11-21 Thread Daniel Moore

On 22/11/2007, at 8:35 AM, Carlos Moreno wrote:

 Though I mostly agree with the rest of your message, I have to object
 to the above --- from everything I read, what KDE people say about
 GNOME has nothing to do with performance!

I've heard Gnome criticized plenty of times for being bloated and  
slow (as compared to KDE). I've also heard the inverse. I've used  
both on the same machine, and they both seem about the same to me.  
Just my anecdotal evidence.

 What they criticize is
 mostly the lack of configurability;  KDE has the reputation that you
 can configure the way every single little pixel on your screen would
 look like;  GNOME has the reputation of being simple, clean, and with
 a sensible default.

True. And they seem to be going their separate ways. Gnome used to be  
much more configureable if my memory serves me well...

 I do not think that any KDE fan would dare have the audacity to
 pick on GNOME using performance (or lack thereof) as their
 argument --- that would border criminal behaviour!!!  :-)

You know, those KDE types ;-)

 Sorry, I have to disagree with this --- last time I logged on to
 KDE on my notebook (where GNOME works flawlessly smooth), I could
 see the windows and dialog boxes appear;  the fade-in effects would
 take close to two seconds in completing...  Sloppy and bloated like
 you wouldn't believe it!
 Yes, you could go on and say:  well, you must have done something
 wrong...  My question is:  what could I possibly do wrong when the
 only thing I did was *install* Ubuntu???

I think for the most part their performance isn't much of an issue.  
It's ironic though because when I first started using KDE  Gnome,  
about 1998, it was Gnome that was quite a bit slower than KDE. Even  
then I preferred the look and feel of Gnome over KDE, even when it  
was slower. Although the truth is that I probably mostly used  
Enlightenment without Gnome or KDE.

I think another big turn off for us Linux / FreeBSD users is the fact  
that KDE is a direct rip off of Windows, and that's not fun,  
especially when  we install Linux to get away from the whole Windows  
quagmire.

 I wonder if KDE defenders simply are and have always been running
 on mega-powerful machines where even Windows Vista would run
 smoothly...

 The Gnome project really started because KDE used to include non free
 software, and Gnome since then has always been seen as the more open
 source alternative. So given Ubuntu's ethos based in free software
 it's not really surprising that they (he) chose Gnome.

 Agreed that this is the most likely reason --- but do notice that
 also, a big part of Linux's good reputation is the fact that,
 unlike Windows, it is lean and mean --- meaning you can run it
 on your old hardware that you were planning on throwing away
 because it was not enough to run Windows...

I think both 'lean and mean' and 'ultra configureable' are both  
important open source traits.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Members details

2007-11-21 Thread Daniel Moore

What language do you want that translated to? English?

On 22/11/2007, at 8:30 AM, sylvain marc wrote:


This is the document.
I hope some ideas are good...

2007/11/21, Daniel Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sure. What's the document? Or is it too early in the morning and I  
haven't woken up yet?


Regards,

Daniel.


On 22/11/2007, at 6:56 AM, sylvain marc wrote:

Probably Daniel Moore could translate the document i give to  
Kenneth Wimer ?


2007/11/21, Daniel Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm Daniel, 32 years old, living in Adelaide, Australia. I speak
English, Spanish and French and a bit of Portuguese.

On 11/21/07, Steph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I just wanted to know from wich country is everybody here, and  
wich language
 do you speak (might be useful). I thought about a new Member  
Page on the
 Ubuntu Wiki, section Art, but maybe it's too private for some of  
us ?


 I'm Steph, 17 years old and living in Montpellier, France.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Members details

2007-11-20 Thread Daniel Moore
I'm Daniel, 32 years old, living in Adelaide, Australia. I speak
English, Spanish and French and a bit of Portuguese.

On 11/21/07, Steph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I just wanted to know from wich country is everybody here, and wich language
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 Ubuntu Wiki, section Art, but maybe it's too private for some of us ?

 I'm Steph, 17 years old and living in Montpellier, France.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] My new Wallpaper

2007-09-10 Thread Daniel Moore
I agree

On 10/09/2007, at 10:36 PM, Dalton Miyabara wrote:

 Hi Ravi,

 I really like your wallpaper, it´s so soft and simple(what I  
 really love), perfect to use as a background. ^^

 I think this is an example to consider to do the Ubuntu wallpapers,  
 clean, soft and neutral.


 Cheers,
 Dalton


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 Hi Friends,
 Here is the wallpaper I designed just for my Ubuntu Desktop.
 I am sharing it, in case someone like it.

 Link:
 http://www.mypicshare.com/lfspy2tepic.html

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Re: [ubuntu-art] First idea ...

2007-07-31 Thread Daniel Moore
Why do people even have backgrounds?
What is a background? Something you see while you are loading the  
first program after  booting?

rant
I think logos on backgrounds, even text or symbols is not  
aesthetically pleasing. A background should be equally attractive in  
full view or if only a snippet is peaking out through overlapping  
windows it should also look good through a semi transparent window,  
it should enhance the transparency look.

That's why Mac backgrounds are so great, they carry no message but  
work aesthetically. The user already knows he's using Ubuntu.
/rant

On 31/07/2007, at 6:14 PM, Filipe DA COSTA wrote:

 Hi all!

 Tanks for you comments, they were really helpful!

 Here you have an updated version on my first idea with the ubuntu  
 font:

 http://www.play.lu/host/test_01_003.jpg

 And now a new idea that I had yesterday :

 http://www.play.lu/host/test_02_001.jpg
 (inspiration:
 http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/Bouygues+pub/video/ 
 x13j6m_pub-bouygues-telecom-cubes_ads)

 And a simple edit of the colors (my favorite):
 http://www.play.lu/host/test_02_002.jpg

 @Ken:

 I know about the color palette and I understand that you want to stay
 with these colors but you have the same colors everywhere … it's some
 kind of boring (personal opinion)! A little contrast to the system
 colors would make the system more fresh-looking. I think that we  
 have
 to play with the colors to find the most exiting combination rather  
 that
 hold to the default palette! Hope you understand my point of  
 view ... I
 know it's not that easy because of my broken English ^^


 Thx,
 DA COSTA Filipe


 Kenneth Wimer wrote:
 Hi Filipe,

 On Monday 30 July 2007 09:40:56 Filipe DA COSTA wrote:

 Hi,

 Here you have my first idea for a wallpaper:

 http://www.play.lu/host/test_01_002.jpg

 I try to find a perfect color combination for an orange/brown  
 theme. For
 now this orange-to-blue seems not that bad ...

 Comments welcome ...



 Nice pic :-)

 I agree with the comment that the stars are pretty Mandriva-ish -  
 you probably
 didn't know that when making it though...too bad, really, it looks  
 pretty
 cool.

 You definitely would want to use the ubuntu-title font to stay  
 within the
 branding guidelines.

 I like the blue to brownish grey background, it seems simple and  
 decent.

 If you are interested in working on something which could be  
 default for Gutsy
 stick more to the brown/yellow-orange colors - the older artwork  
 is a good
 starting point. In addition, using a logo so prominently is  
 probably not the
 best idea as it draws the eye too much.

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[ubuntu-art] New

2007-06-05 Thread Daniel Moore
Hi I'm Daniel,

Just signed on to see if I could lend a hand with some art projects.
So, how do things work around here and what needs doing?

D.

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