[Bug 803943] Re: compiz consuming a lot of cpu
Just to point out, compiz using a constant 5% of CPU time can only be considered good in comparison to compiz using a constant 10-20% CPU time. If there's nothing happening on the screen then compiz should be essentially completely idle and using much less than 1% of the CPU time, if any. A constant drain of 5% busy is a disaster for power savings, battery life, heat, etc., at the very least. It's definitely possible for compiz to use essentially no resources when idle. That's how it used to work... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/803943 Title: compiz consuming a lot of cpu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-core/+bug/803943/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 997360] [NEW] ffmpeg goes into infinite loop in libavutil51
Public bug reported: I'm using kmttg to convert files downloaded from my TiVo to a format I can play on my computer. Part of the processing for this uses ffmpeg to do some conversion. The ffmpeg command line looks like: /usr/bin/ffmpeg -y -fflags genpts -i /home/me/MyTv/MyShow.m2v -i /home/me/MyTv/MyShow.ac3 -acodec copy -vcodec Whenever I run this it goes a long way, then appears to hang (I've left it for 10+ hours, overnight, and it never ended or did anything else). When I strace the process I can see that it's just running mmap() then munmap(), over and over and over with slightly higher memory every time. Even after I left it all that time it still didn't run out of memory or die... here's some strace output: mmap(NULL, 1292320768, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f84be747000 munmap(0x7f850b7bb000, 1292304384) = 0 mmap(NULL, 1292374016, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f84716c6000 munmap(0x7f84be747000, 1292320768) = 0 mmap(NULL, 1292386304, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f850b7a7000 munmap(0x7f84716c6000, 1292374016) = 0 mmap(NULL, 1292414976, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f84be71c000 munmap(0x7f850b7a7000, 1292386304) = 0 etc. etc. (this is close to the end, when I killed it--I have 4G physical RAM). Next I used GDB to attach to the process and set a breakpoint in mmap() and got this stacktrace: #0 0x7f855d435860 in mmap64 () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 #1 0x7f855d3c7f5d in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 #2 0x7f855d3c8291 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 #3 0x7f855d3ca556 in memalign () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 #4 0x7f855d3cb799 in posix_memalign () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 #5 0x7f855dc282ab in av_malloc () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavutil.so.51 #6 0x7f855dc24df9 in av_fifo_alloc () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavutil.so.51 #7 0x7f855dc2508f in av_fifo_realloc2 () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavutil.so.51 #8 0x7f855f11ee93 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavformat.so.53 #9 0x7f855f168559 in av_write_trailer () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavformat.so.53 #10 0x0040c5ba in ?? () #11 0x00407904 in ?? () #12 0x7f855d36876d in __libc_start_main () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 #13 0x00407a71 in ?? () #14 0x7fff538af158 in ?? () #15 0x001c in ?? () #16 0x000f in ?? () #17 0x7fff538b1363 in ?? () #18 0x7fff538b1373 in ?? () #19 0x7fff538b1376 in ?? () #20 0x7fff538b137e in ?? () #21 0x7fff538b1385 in ?? () #22 0x7fff538b1388 in ?? () #23 0x7fff538b13d3 in ?? () #24 0x7fff538b13d6 in ?? () #25 0x7fff538b1421 in ?? () #26 0x7fff538b1429 in ?? () #27 0x7fff538b142e in ?? () #28 0x7fff538b1436 in ?? () #29 0x7fff538b143b in ?? () #30 0x7fff538b143e in ?? () #31 0x7fff538b1442 in ?? () #32 0x in ?? () I tried to continue as best I could and from what I can tell, it comes back up to the av_write_trailer() function but never leaves that function; the infinite looping is happening somewhere under there. So I'm marking this against libav. This happens every time, on a couple of different files I tried. ~$ uname -smrv Linux 3.2.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 08:43:22 UTC 2012 x86_64 ~$ lsb_release -rd Description:Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Release:12.04 ~$ apt-cache policy ffmpeg libavutil51 libavformat53 ffmpeg: Installed: 4:0.8.1-0ubuntu1 Candidate: 4:0.8.1-0ubuntu1 Version table: *** 4:0.8.1-0ubuntu1 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status libavutil51: Installed: 4:0.8.1-0ubuntu1 Candidate: 4:0.8.1-0ubuntu1 Version table: *** 4:0.8.1-0ubuntu1 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status libavformat53: Installed: 4:0.8.1-0ubuntu1 Candidate: 4:0.8.1-0ubuntu1 Version table: *** 4:0.8.1-0ubuntu1 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status ** Affects: libav (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/997360 Title: ffmpeg goes into infinite loop in libavutil51 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libav/+bug/997360/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Problems with setuid app in Ubuntu 12.04
Hi all. I've recently installed Ubuntu 12.04 64bit. I'm using a proprietary VPN utility from Juniper Networks on my Linux system. In previous versions of Ubuntu, it worked just fine. In the current version of Ubuntu, I'm getting failures. For some reason it's not letting me invoke a setuid application. The way it is deployed is it unpacks into a hidden directory under $HOME, then the main VPN program needs to be made setuid root so that it can be invoked by me but do root-y things. Then, you can either run the tool directly from the command line or you can run a little Java control window which manages the VPN. If I run the program directly from the command line, the setuid works and the VPN comes up and works fine. But, I can't control it or see how long it's been up. Whenever I try to use the Java control panel the GUI comes up and tries to run the setuid program, but it fails and then the whole thing crashes. I get this error: Failed to setuid to root. Error 1: Operation not permitted But I have clearly set the right bits and it works when invoked directly. I've tried many different variations of Java including downloaded ones directly from Sun/Oracle. One note, the application is 32bit and so I need to run 32bit Java as well. Not sure if that matters. Has the 12.04 release installed some new security measures that might be keeping my setuid program from working properly? I've tried putting Java under /opt/jvm and also run service apparmor teardown to try to be sure apparmor is not involved, but I don't know enough to know if I succeeded. I'm really stuck and could use any pointers or tips anyone has. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Where is libgcr-3-common:i386?
I'm trying to run a program under Wine in my Ubuntu 12.04 64bit fresh installation. When I run it I get this error: p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I've discovered that the 64bit version of that file lives in gnome-keyring and so I tried to sudo apt-get install gnome-keyring:i386. I found some libraries it requires and those require other libraries, all of which do exist, until I get down to a requirement for: $ sudo apt-get install libgcr-3-common:i386 Package libgcr-3-common:i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package 'libgcr-3-common:i386' has no installation candidate However it's odd because if I go to the Ubuntu site to look it up, that library seems to be packaged properly; for example: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/libgcr-3-common Can anyone explain what the message means and how I can get a copy of that library to install? Am I missing some extra repo (I think I've turned them all on at this point)? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[Bug 990765] Re: Save button always greyed out when creating openvpn connection
I hate to be one of those people, but if no one can provide a fix or a workaround for this very soon I'm going to have to delete 12.04 and switch to something else. I need OpenConnect to connect to work and I can't wait much longer before this will start to impact me very seriously. I've invested a good bit of time getting 12.04 to where I want it so I'd hate to switch at this point, but if I can't work from home it's not possible to continue with it: this isn't something I can just get used to like a change to the desktop. Anyone? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/990765 Title: Save button always greyed out when creating openvpn connection To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/990765/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 991673] [NEW] compiz constantly using 12-15% CPU
Public bug reported: I've recently changed from Ubuntu 10.10 to 12.04 (fresh installation). I've noticed that compiz is consistently, and constantly, using between 12 and 15% of my CPU and Xorg is constantly and consistently using 15-20% of my CPU, even when I'm not actually doing anything and nothing is moving on the screen. $ lsb_release -rd Description:Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Release:12.04 $ apt-cache policy compiz compiz: Installed: 1:0.9.7.6-0ubuntu1 Candidate: 1:0.9.7.6-0ubuntu1 Version table: *** 1:0.9.7.6-0ubuntu1 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a2) ** Affects: compiz (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/991673 Title: compiz constantly using 12-15% CPU To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/991673/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 990765] [NEW] Save button always greyed out when creating openvpn connection
Public bug reported: I've just upgraded (fresh install) to Ubuntu 12.04 and add the network- manager-openvpn packages. Now when I select VPN Connections - Configure VPN from the network icon in the panel I get the opportunity to Add a VPN with a connection type of OpenVPN. However in the dialog for creating a new VPN, the Save... button is permanently grey and I can't ever click it. I've tried filling in everything, choosing different Authentication values, etc. but nothing helps: the Save ... button is never selectable. Unlike bug # 204696 the Add button does work and unlike bug # 980025 I do have a Save .. button... it's just not clickable. Maybe it's a privileges problem? But I don't know how to invoke the dialog with the proper privileges? Help... without this I can't access work anymore... $ lsb_release -rd Description:Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Release:12.04 $ apt-cache policy network-manager-openvpn network-manager-openvpn: Installed: 0.9.4.0-0ubuntu1 Candidate: 0.9.4.0-0ubuntu1 Version table: *** 0.9.4.0-0ubuntu1 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/universe amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status $ apt-cache policy network-manager-openvpn-gnome network-manager-openvpn-gnome: Installed: 0.9.4.0-0ubuntu1 Candidate: 0.9.4.0-0ubuntu1 Version table: *** 0.9.4.0-0ubuntu1 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/universe amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status $ apt-cache policy openvpn openvpn: Installed: 2.2.1-8ubuntu1 Candidate: 2.2.1-8ubuntu1 Version table: *** 2.2.1-8ubuntu1 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status ** Affects: network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/990765 Title: Save button always greyed out when creating openvpn connection To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/990765/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 990594] [NEW] No way to exit part mode in Rhythmbox
Public bug reported: I was messing around with Rhythmbox in Ubuntu 12.04 trying to get a display I liked. I saw Party Mode under the View menu and selected it to see what it was. I got a full-screen instance of Rhythmbox with NO WAY TO EXIT! No menus were available, no keys like ESC etc. worked to revert to regular mode. I could bring up the dash with the hotkey (Super) or use alt-tab etc. to ask to switch windows but none of that changed the display: Rhythmbox still took up the entire screen. I could find no way to get rid of it except resorting to CTRL-ALT-F1, logging on the console, using ps to find the PID and kill it. If I wasn't knowledgeable enough to do that, I guess my only option would be to use the power button on my system!! That can't be right. If Rhythmbox is going to be the official music player in Ubuntu someone needs to do some work to get it to integrate better into Unity. At the very least you should remove this menu item until such time as it can be made to work properly. ~$ apt-cache policy rhythmbox rhythmbox: Installed: 2.96-0ubuntu4 Candidate: 2.96-0ubuntu4 Version table: *** 2.96-0ubuntu4 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status ~$ lsb_release -rd Description:Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Release:12.04 ** Affects: rhythmbox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/990594 Title: No way to exit part mode in Rhythmbox To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/990594/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 990595] [NEW] Adding the rxvt package doesn't allow me to start it
Public bug reported: I've been using rxvt forever: I think the display quality is much better than xterm and it's far less resource-intensive than gnome terminal. I just installed 12.04 and when I added the rxvt package, I could find no way to launch it. It doesn't appear in the dash. I can't find any other way to run it, except browsing to it in /usr/bin with the file browser. Even after that, I can't find any way to add it to the left panel so I can start it again. The best I can do, as far as I can tell, is add a shortcut to the desktop which is bogus. $ lsb_release -rd Description:Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Release:12.04 ~$ apt-cache policy rxvt rxvt: Installed: 1:2.6.4-14 Candidate: 1:2.6.4-14 Version table: *** 1:2.6.4-14 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/universe amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status ** Affects: rxvt (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/990595 Title: Adding the rxvt package doesn't allow me to start it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rxvt/+bug/990595/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: server went unbootable
On Sun, 2012-04-08 at 13:55 +0100, Dale Amon wrote: There weren't many choices in 2001 or 2002 when I was looking into it. Do you have any suggestions on one that might be particularly useful? It doesn't have to be terribly fancy, just enough so you can get a shell and 'fix things'. I used dropbear for a while. Works well. http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html Cheers! -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it
On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 18:33 -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Sam Smith smick...@hotmail.com wrote: The point is that SpiderOak (and Lastpass) never know the user's password. And never receive the encryption key. The key never leaves the user's computer. The server never gets it. The only thing that ever lands on the server is an encrypted blob. From their website Retrieve files from any internet-connected device, Access all your data in one de-duplicated location... I know to the easy consumer that doesn't spell lies but to me it reads We do know your encryption key, if we want to and little do you know, we do have the ability to get the key that encrypts the encryption key too. Companies lie all the time, or they tell pieces of a story and never tell the entire story. Though I don't know if it's more of a lie then an assumption on their end and maybe even they themselves not even understanding what could possibly go wrong, or they just don't care because the user doesn't pay too much attention after WE NEVER KNOW. The key to knowing the full story is read Retrieve files from any internet-connected device. To add to it, let me point out this: Easily access all of your data from any device within your SpiderOak network or on the web which contradicts this: SpiderOak never stores or knows a user's password or the plaintext encryption keys which means not even SpiderOak employees can access the data and it's no so much a direct contradiction as much as an arrogant assumption that we (or I guess only I in this conversation) don't realise that their employees do have a way to access it, they just need to do a couple minutes worth of work, that is what makes it contradict. None of the statements you quote above are proof of lying (or incompetence), or even indicative of it. The crux of the issue is simply that SpiderOak is a proprietary program and so you don't know what it REALLY does. The model that SpiderOak documents on their web site IS secure. It's definitely more secure than ubuntuOne. The passphrase is never sent to the server at all and the content cannot be (reasonably) decrypted without the passphrase. They have a downloadable application that runs on your local system, and if you use that and never use their web interface to browse your files then your passphrase is never transmitted over any network at all, encrypted or not. If the software behaves as documented, then they are right: SpiderOak employees cannot decrypt your files. Period. Phrases like retrieve files from any internet-connected device don't matter: it just means you enter that passphrase into the application running on the local device to decrypt the files after they're downloaded from the servers: it doesn't require the passphrase to be transmitted to the servers. Of course the problem is IF, above: the _documented_ model is secure, but that doesn't stop a SpiderOak employee with sufficient access from adding a back door to the application, which will grab the passphrases and send them along. That's a risk with ANY encryption software that you didn't write completely yourself, of course, even ssh etc., but it's much more risky with proprietary software for obvious reasons. If that's what you meant, then you should have just said so clearly instead of couching it in ominous-sounding hints and accusations. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it
On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 01:41 +0100, Dale Amon wrote: I do not know the details, so I will ask: is it the case that: All we can know for sure is the way the system is DOCUMENTED to work, as I said in my other email. * The user crypto key is generated on the the user machine. Yes. * The password for the user key is set on the user machine and never leaves it. Yes. Well, the passphrase is in your head obviously, so of course it's available wherever your head is. * The user crypto key never leaves their machine(s). No, I believe they upload the generated key to the server, after it's been encrypted with your passphrase. * The user's password for their crypto key is never used outside the confines of their local machine. Yes, as long as you don't use their website to access your content and only use the local tool. * The data is fully encrypted on the user machine and only encrypted data transits the net and sits on the storage server. Yes. * The encryption algorithm is such that no key except the one on the users machine can decrypt the remotely stored data. Yes. If the statement made in the other reply is true, and you can 'retrieve your data from any internet device' then it is patently obvious that data security *is* violated. Why is it patently obvious? I'm sure when they say any internet device they don't mean devices that do not have access to the secure tokens necessary to decrypt the content. They mean a device that has internet access (so it can retrieve the encrypted content from the server), and where you can enter your passphrase to decrypt it. Even if they did not upload the crypto key, that doesn't mean that you couldn't have it with you on a USB key or something, and still access your data from any internet device. I'm sure that they felt that forcing you to keep both the passphrase AND the crypto key yourself was simply not a commercially viable solution for the general public. It would be nice if they offered an option (with appropriate cautions) to not upload the keys at all, I agree. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[Bug 912030] Re: The auto.net script that comes with autofs5 is broken
** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #782169 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=782169 ** Also affects: autofs5 (Fedora) via https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=782169 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to autofs5 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/912030 Title: The auto.net script that comes with autofs5 is broken To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs5/+bug/912030/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 912030] Re: The auto.net script that comes with autofs5 is broken
** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #782169 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=782169 ** Also affects: autofs5 (Fedora) via https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=782169 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/912030 Title: The auto.net script that comes with autofs5 is broken To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs5/+bug/912030/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 111612] Re: The auto.net script that comes with autofs is broken
FYI, just discovered that the fix made here for autofs4 was never applied to autofs5, and the same bug exists there; filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs5/+bug/912030 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to autofs in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/111612 Title: The auto.net script that comes with autofs is broken To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/+bug/111612/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 111612] Re: The auto.net script that comes with autofs is broken
FYI, just discovered that the fix made here for autofs4 was never applied to autofs5, and the same bug exists there; filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs5/+bug/912030 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/111612 Title: The auto.net script that comes with autofs is broken To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/+bug/111612/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 912030] [NEW] The auto.net script that comes with autofs5 is broken
Public bug reported: A long time ago I reported a bug in the autofs package: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/+bug/111612 That bug was fixed, but now I've discovered that the same bug still exists in the autofs5 package. Please see the above bug for the issue and the fix (I applied the fix by hand to my current system and it did solve the problem). Without this fix, the autofs /net map is simply non-functioning in many common Enterprise environments. ~$ dpkg -S auto.net autofs5: /usr/share/autofs5/conffiles/auto.net ~$ lsb_release -r -d Description:Ubuntu 10.10 Release:10.10 ~$ apt-cache policy autofs5 autofs5: Installed: 5.0.5-0ubuntu2.1 Candidate: 5.0.5-0ubuntu2.1 Version table: *** 5.0.5-0ubuntu2.1 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-proposed/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 5.0.5-0ubuntu2 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main amd64 Packages ** Affects: autofs5 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to autofs5 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/912030 Title: The auto.net script that comes with autofs5 is broken To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs5/+bug/912030/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 912030] [NEW] The auto.net script that comes with autofs5 is broken
Public bug reported: A long time ago I reported a bug in the autofs package: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/+bug/111612 That bug was fixed, but now I've discovered that the same bug still exists in the autofs5 package. Please see the above bug for the issue and the fix (I applied the fix by hand to my current system and it did solve the problem). Without this fix, the autofs /net map is simply non-functioning in many common Enterprise environments. ~$ dpkg -S auto.net autofs5: /usr/share/autofs5/conffiles/auto.net ~$ lsb_release -r -d Description:Ubuntu 10.10 Release:10.10 ~$ apt-cache policy autofs5 autofs5: Installed: 5.0.5-0ubuntu2.1 Candidate: 5.0.5-0ubuntu2.1 Version table: *** 5.0.5-0ubuntu2.1 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-proposed/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 5.0.5-0ubuntu2 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main amd64 Packages ** Affects: autofs5 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/912030 Title: The auto.net script that comes with autofs5 is broken To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs5/+bug/912030/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548992] Re: Wireless connection frequently drops [deauthenticating by local choice (reason=3)]
I have this same problem (Ubuntu 11.10, dual-boot installation via Wubi, on a Samsung laptop--not sure of the model but it's brand new). lshw shows this for my wireless device: description: Wireless interface product: Centrino Advanced-N 6230 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:01:00.0 logical name: wlan0 version: 34 serial: 88:53:2e:67:ea:85 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlagn driverversion=3.0.0-12-generic firmware=17.168.5.1 build 33993 ip=192.168.1.108 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn resources: irq:42 memory:c050-c0501fff Disabling the power management via iwconfig seems to solve the problem. However, this is NOT persistent. When I reboot, it's set back to on and I get power issues. I tried adding a script to /etc/network/if-pre-up.d that turned off power management, but that script was never being invoked (I added an echo to a file in /tmp which never showed up). I don't know why that script is not invoked?? I moved it to /etc/network/if-up.d and now it seems to work (although it takes a long time for me to get my first wireless connection, I think because the power management is not disabled until after the first connection). Also, after rebooting a few times testing this out, my wireless got into some strange state where it would NEVER connect, and just continued to ask me for the wireless password (even though it already knew the right password). I rebooted into Windows, then back to Ubuntu, and so far it's been OK and the wireless is stable. I really wonder why my pre-up scripts are not being invoked, though: I think if I could disable the power management before trying to bring up the interface I could connet -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548992 Title: Wireless connection frequently drops [deauthenticating by local choice (reason=3)] To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/548992/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 836435] Re: Onscreen fonts in Natty being displayed corrupted
I have just installed 11.10 and this bug is present there. (I skipped 11.4). The font gradually deteriorates until it becomes illegible. Rebooting is the only cure I have found. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/836435 Title: Onscreen fonts in Natty being displayed corrupted To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/836435/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 674138] Re: Global appmenu breaks sloppy focus
I think I would find Jeff's suggestion in comment #11 to be frustrating. I often zip my mouse over to another window with just a nudge of one hand (one of the benefits of FFM after all) and then get back to typing virtually instantaneously. Any kind of delay that caused my input to go into the wrong window would be a problem for me. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/674138 Title: Global appmenu breaks sloppy focus -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 387308] Re: HTTPS Proxy Support for file sync
I think it DOES meet the criteria for high importance, as described here: * Has a severe impact on a small portion of Ubuntu users (estimated) This is manifestly true since for that portion of ubuntu users that must us a proxy, the impact is very severe (basically it's completely unusable). And, I would even argue that the number of ubuntu users that must use a proxy is not all that small. Considering the number of subscribers and number of duplicates of this bug it's hard to understand how this is not high. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387308 Title: HTTPS Proxy Support for file sync -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 141481] Re: dash as #!/bin/sh introduces countless incompatibilities
If GDM is sourcing the user's setup files using any shell other than the user's defined shell (from getpwent() or whatever) then that's a bug in GDM. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/141481 Title: dash as #!/bin/sh introduces countless incompatibilities -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: The Dell Latitude reality check
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 15:49 -0600, Patrick Goetz wrote: A better solution would be to include the most common proprietary drivers in some kind of encrypted sandbox on the install CD and let the user choose whether or not he/she would like to use the proprietary drivers at the time of the install. I'll let the GPL legal experts figure out precisely how this could be done, but it seems to me it should be possible. Hi Patrick. I'm not familiar with the specifics of the broadcom licensing per se, but if it's like the other proprietary driver licensing problems we have then you're misunderstanding the situation. The problem has nothing to do with the GPL vs. LGPL vs. whatever; in fact it has nothing to do with licensing of any part of Ubuntu at all. The problem is with the licensing of the _proprietary driver_. These drivers typically allow no-charge download directly from the vendor website, but the license includes terms that make REDISTRIBUTION illegal (without permission). That means that Ubuntu _cannot give you_ the driver, unless they go to the vendor and pay $$ (presumably you're not asking that a distro you downloaded for free should pay $$ for the privilege of shipping these proprietary drivers) or work out some other arrangement. In short, there's simply nothing that Ubuntu can do about this if the vendor won't agree to allow redistribution. For things like nVidia graphics drivers or the Microsoft truetype fonts, etc. we can get away with this because they are not critical to bring the system up, so we can get the system up then there's a little trick: there's a package available that will automatically go to the vendor site and download the package directly from there (no redistribution by Ubuntu here) and install it. Of course, this trick does not work with a network driver for obvious reasons! I know this doesn't make anyone, including me, happier but at least we can focus our ire in the correct direction and not shoot the hapless, and helpless, messenger. Cheers! PS. Hopefully I've not completely misinterpreted the situation with the broadcom drivers... I probably should have gone to look at the license before writing all this. Oh well! :-p :-) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[Bug 719345] [NEW] package language-pack-gnome-de-base 1:10.10 20100930 failed to install/upgrade: unable to securely remove '/target/usr/share/omf-langpack/fdl/fdl-de.omf.dpkg-tmp': Read-only file sy
Public bug reported: Sorry,don't know ProblemType: Package DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.10 Package: language-pack-gnome-de-base 1:10.10+20100930 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.35-22.33-generic 2.6.35.4 Uname: Linux 2.6.35-22-generic i686 Architecture: i386 Date: Tue Feb 15 13:36:25 2011 ErrorMessage: unable to securely remove '/target/usr/share/omf-langpack/fdl/fdl-de.omf.dpkg-tmp': Read-only file system LiveMediaBuild: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: language-pack-gnome-de-base Title: package language-pack-gnome-de-base 1:10.10+20100930 failed to install/upgrade: unable to securely remove '/target/usr/share/omf-langpack/fdl/fdl-de.omf.dpkg-tmp': Read-only file system ** Affects: ubuntu Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-package i386 maverick -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/719345 Title: package language-pack-gnome-de-base 1:10.10 20100930 failed to install/upgrade: unable to securely remove '/target/usr/share/omf- langpack/fdl/fdl-de.omf.dpkg-tmp': Read-only file system -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 719345] Re: package language-pack-gnome-de-base 1:10.10 20100930 failed to install/upgrade: unable to securely remove '/target/usr/share/omf-langpack/fdl/fdl-de.omf.dpkg-tmp': Read-only file syst
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Re: Evolution in Ubuntu
On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 10:37 +1000, Chris Jones wrote: I still don't see any real necessity to kick up such a fuss Paul. *shrug* That's nice. I do, or I wouldn't have asked the question. Since you don't even use Evolution and I do, every single day, I'm not sure why you feel the need to give me grief about this. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Evolution in Ubuntu
On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 16:16 +1000, Chris Jones wrote: Is this some sort of new policy decision, that Evolution will forever be left back in every release? Hi Paul. I can understand what you are saying, but is it really that important to you? I'm curious as to why it's bugging you this much. Does Evolution 2.32 have a particular feature that you require? Evolution is now, thanks to the tireless efforts of Matthew Barnes (among others), undergoing impressive amounts of feature addition and bug fixing every single release. With every release it increases its integration with Gnome facilities, reduces bugs, gains new capabilities, etc. at a pretty rapid pace (compared with a few years ago). The code is being cleaned up, dialogs fixed, hangs removed/parallelism introduced, etc. etc. Bonobo and other ancient Gnome technologies are being excised, dbus and gconf uses are being fixed, etc. The IMAP+ backend is being enhanced to work better with newer IMAP server capabilities. Other backends have similar enhancements. Honestly I can't remember exactly what features/enhancements went into exactly which version of Evo. But in general, yes, it is that important to me :-) If you're keen enough, you can probably sneak in the updated Evolution into your own system from a third party PPA or something. I'm sure the deb files are available from somewhere on the internet. It might be worth your while doing a Google search for them. Well, I have myself created and maintained a makefile that allows people to build Evo (and its various parts) and install it in a separate directory, so it doesn't interfere with the package versions; I prefer this method. There are a lot of reasons this Makefile (or a PPA) are not optimal, which I can get into if anyone REALLY cares. I guess I would turn around your question and say, what's Ubuntu's justification for choosing this one particular application to leave behind at an older version? I understand the confluence of major changes + LTS that resulted in the 10.04 decision, but this seems like something that would need to be individually revisited for each release. Anyway, it sounds like everything is good for Ubuntu 11.04, sticking with Gnome 2.32. I'm presuming that the Evo 3 will be in the Gnome 3 PPA for those who want to try it, along with the rest of Gnome 3. Cheers! -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[Bug 628060] Re: [ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI] ALSA test tone not correctly played back
I had this bug and found several configuration problems. One of which was timidity stealing the sound card, as described here: a href=https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems/KarmicCaveats#Another%20process%20locking%20the%20sound%20card;Process locking sound card/a The described solution did not work, so I uninstalled timidity-deamon and the problem went away. Further problems were caused by me selecting the incorrect sound card, I meant to use an integrated one, not the Ensoniq. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/628060 Title: [ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI] ALSA test tone not correctly played back -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Evolution in Ubuntu (was: Re: Evolution Ubuntu 10.04 LTS)
Last year I expressed concern over the fact that Ubuntu was leaving behind Evolution in Lucid (that is, shipping Gnome 2.30 but leaving Evolution alone back at 2.28). The explanation at that time was that the change from Evo 2.28 to 2.30 involved a lot of significant rework (which it did) and that the LTS release was not a place to experiment with that sort of change. OK, fine. I was definitely perplexed, then, to see that in Maverick, which is not by anyone's standards a long-term support release and is running Gnome 2.32, Evolution was left at version 2.30! And now I've heard (not officially) that Natty, which (as I understand it) will contain Gnome 3 as the base version, will ship with Evolution 2.32!! It's one thing to leave behind this package due to the confluence of LTS and a major amount of rewriting, but what is the justification for continuing to ship obsoleted versions of Evolution with every release of Ubuntu? Is this some sort of new policy decision, that Evolution will forever be left back in every release? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[Bug 694425] [NEW] openconnect does not interoperate with resolvconf
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: openconnect I have to connect to multiple VPNs, even at the same time, so I've installed the resolvconf package to manage the resolv.conf file. Many applications, such as dhclient etc., in Ubuntu recognize that resolvconf is installed and will proceed accordingly. However, openconnect does not seem to recognize this and removes the /etc/resolv.conf symlink (which it's supposed to be to get resolvconf package to work). It also doesn't appear to set the DNS environment using resolvconf as it should. What would be really, really nice is that if openconnect (or any utility that needs to change /etc/resolv.conf but this bug is about openconnect) provided a shell script that managed /etc/resolv.conf, rather than putting that handling into the code itself. This would not be a big deal performance-wise since it only happens at connection establishment, and it gives a lot of flexibility to manage these files as needed. ** Affects: openconnect (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/694425 Title: openconnect does not interoperate with resolvconf -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 324233] Re: Network Manager 0.7 doesn't use resolvconf to remove nameserver info if it didn't use resolvconf for adding its nameserver info - wipes /etc/resolv.conf link
I don't think it's correct for NetworkManager to write directly to the file managed by resolvconf. The entire point of resolvconf is that IT'S supposed to manage the resolv.conf file. Resolvconf is very useful if you (like I do!) have one or more VPN solutions (sometimes I have to connect to two or even three at the same time!) Each of these VPN solutions has its own set of DNS servers that we want to use to use to resolve hostnames in that subdomain (local hosts that are not visible in public DNS servers). Resolvconf manages this by maintaining a separate resolv.conf file for each INTERFACE then merging them together. If you use this in conjunction with, for example, dnsmasq as a local DNS caching proxy server, then your /etc/resolv.conf should ALWAYS use nameserver 127.0.0.1, and dnsmasq has some scripts it installs to configure resolvconf to configure dnsmasq to find the real upstream DNS servers. This works pretty well... IF AND ONLY IF you let resolvconf manage the contents of resolv.conf. So, they way it's supposed to work is that when you want to modify resolv.conf based on bringing up a new interface, and resolvconf is available, instead of doing something like: echo $RESOLVCONF /etc/resolv.conf you do something like: echo $RESOLVCONF | resolvconf -a interface where interface is the name of the new interface brought up, like tun0 or whatever. Similarly, when the interface goes down rather than rewriting /etc/resolv.conf with some kind of saved backup, all you have to do is run: resolvconf -d interface to undo the changes made for that interface. Personally I think it's a fundamental mistake to have the manipulation of resolv.conf embedded in code inside NetworkManager. The reality is that, unlike Windows which handles this much better (!!), UNIX/Linux handling of DNS resolving is not very good and people need to customize it. NetworkManager should provide a script that does the resolv.conf manipulation, and invoke the script, rather than doing all internally in code. This allows customization for those who require it. This scripting can be done using the typical .d directory method, etc. so that more advanced behaviors can be installed without modifying NetworkManager files directly. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/324233 Title: Network Manager 0.7 doesn't use resolvconf to remove nameserver info if it didn't use resolvconf for adding its nameserver info - wipes /etc/resolv.conf link -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 691329] [NEW] dnsmasq init file has incorrect DNSMASQ_INTERFACE reference
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: dnsmasq
Looking at the /etc/init.d/dnsmasq file I see a bug; in the start()
function it says:
${DNSMASQ_INTERFACE:+ $DNSMASQ_INTERFACES} \
This is wrong; the variable names should both be the same. Assuming the
right variable name is DNSMASQ_INTERFACES (plural) for example this
should be:
${DNSMASQ_INTERFACES:+ $DNSMASQ_INTERFACES} \
~$ lsb_release -rd
Description:Ubuntu 10.10
Release:10.10
~$ apt-cache policy dnsmasq
dnsmasq:
Installed: 2.55-1
Candidate: 2.55-1
Version table:
*** 2.55-1 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe amd64
Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
** Affects: dnsmasq (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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[Bug 691329] [NEW] dnsmasq init file has incorrect DNSMASQ_INTERFACE reference
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: dnsmasq
Looking at the /etc/init.d/dnsmasq file I see a bug; in the start()
function it says:
${DNSMASQ_INTERFACE:+ $DNSMASQ_INTERFACES} \
This is wrong; the variable names should both be the same. Assuming the
right variable name is DNSMASQ_INTERFACES (plural) for example this
should be:
${DNSMASQ_INTERFACES:+ $DNSMASQ_INTERFACES} \
~$ lsb_release -rd
Description:Ubuntu 10.10
Release:10.10
~$ apt-cache policy dnsmasq
dnsmasq:
Installed: 2.55-1
Candidate: 2.55-1
Version table:
*** 2.55-1 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe amd64
Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
** Affects: dnsmasq (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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[Bug 681212] [NEW] The ia32-libs package needs libssl / libcrypto
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: ia32-libs Lots and lots of 32bit applications link with libssl / libcrypto, but currently there is no package available for 64bit Ubuntu which provides these libraries. Without them, none of these 32bit applications can be run on Ubuntu. ~$ lsb_release -rd Description:Ubuntu 10.10 Release:10.10 ~$ apt-cache policy ia32-libs ia32-libs: Installed: 20090808ubuntu9 Candidate: 20090808ubuntu9 Version table: *** 20090808ubuntu9 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status ** Affects: ia32-libs (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- The ia32-libs package needs libssl / libcrypto https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/681212 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 681212] Re: The ia32-libs package needs libssl / libcrypto
Whoa. Somehow I must have missed this because now I see that it's there. Bizarre. Sorry about that. ** Changed in: ia32-libs (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- The ia32-libs package needs libssl / libcrypto https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/681212 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
libc profiling... can anyone use this?
Hi all; I've been trying to use gprof to profile some of my code and the profiling results for my code only seem to account for about 5 seconds of runtime, out of a total of 40 seconds. So I installed the profiled libc library installed and I'm trying to use that to try to figure out where the rest of the runtime is going. When I attempt to link with -lc_p as described in the libc6-prof README file, etc., I get linker errors and/or immediate segmentation faults when I run it. I've filed a bug a few days ago with details: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/667470 Has anyone else been able to get this working? Am I just missing something here? Cheers! PS. Yes I know about valgrind but I was hoping to use gprof in this case. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[Bug 667470] [NEW] Linking against libc built with profiling fails
Public bug reported: I'm trying to build my program with the libc profiling (from package libc6-prof) enabled, and it doesn't work at all. $ lsb_release -rd Description:Ubuntu 10.10 Release:10.10 The README says I should add -static-libgcc -lc_p to my link line, but if I do that I get: gcc -g -pg -o foobar ar.o arscan.o commands.o default.o dir.o expand.o file.o function.o getopt.o getopt1.o implicit.o job.o main.o misc.o read.o remake.o remote-stub.o rule.o signame.o strcache.o variable.o version.o vpath.o hash.o -lrt -static-libgcc -lc_p read.o: In function `tilde_expand': read.c:2968: warning: Using 'getpwnam' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking /usr/bin/ld: dynamic STT_GNU_IFUNC symbol `strcmp' with pointer equality in `/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../lib/libc_p.a(strcmp.op)' can not be used when making an executable; recompile with -fPIE and relink with -pie collect2: ld returned 1 exit status If I take out the -static-libgcc (but leave in -lc_p of course) I get the same error. If I try linking my application statically, by adding -static to the link line, then I get just the warning: read.c:2968: warning: Using 'getpwnam' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking and the link succeeds, but if I try to run the executable it simply coredumps: $ ./foobar Segmentation fault GDB says: (gdb) run Starting program: foobar Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0049be0b in __mcount_internal () Of course if I build without profiling it works fine. ** Affects: glibc (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Linking against libc built with profiling fails https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/667470 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 567025] Re: Compiz borks when tooltips are wider than screen
So wait, your answer is that this is expected behavior and we should just accept it? Every time I hover over a link that happens to be too wide to display on my screen my screen flashes, all my carefully-placed windows are thrown into the first workspace, all my advanced display elements are suddenly gone, and the response is sure, that's what we expected and the bug is marked Won't Fix??? Seriously? Here's a thought: if the content of the popup is too long to be displayed, why not truncate it? You seriously believe that I'd rather see a popup that is too long for me to read anyway but have my display completely whacked, than see a truncated popup? Good grief. -- Compiz borks when tooltips are wider than screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/567025 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 635258] Re: Garbled chars in xterm
I'm not sure what it means that this bug is marked fixed released... it seems to have been fixed on Oct 17 but it's not Oct 21 and there's still no package available (for Maverick) containing this fix. I do have all my Ubuntu repos enabled including proposed. What's the relationship between a bug being marked as fixed released and a package showing up available for download? Is there some kind of extra state that is set or comment added to launchpad when the package is available? This bug is just killing me; the borderWidth change discussed in the Red Hat bug doesn't work reliably, and having to resize each of my windows when I create them (esp. given the other long-standing Ubuntu bug about resize handles being impossibly thin) is very frustrating; I use xterm exactly because my workflow tends to create/destroy a LOT of terminal windows, all the time. Thanks for the quick work on this and I can't wait to get access to the fix! -- Garbled chars in xterm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/635258 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 50430] Re: NIS has problems starting before the network comes up
Here's what I use. This works for me in 10.04 (and below) but I haven't
tried it with 10.10 yet.
It sure as heck would be nice if someone paid a little attention to this
bug.
Save this as reautofs, then follow the directions in the comments.
#!/bin/sh
#
# Stupid NetworkManager doesn't wait for NIS to start before starting
# autofs, so we have no maps. Restart it.
#
# Install with:
# sudo cp ~/Downloads/reautofs /etc/init.d
# sudo update-rc.d reautofs defaults 99
#
#
# Author: Paul Smith psm...@gnu.org
start () {
nohup /bin/sh -c '
while true; do
ypwhich break;
sleep 1;
done;
/etc/init.d/autofs restart
' /dev/null /dev/null 21
}
case $1 in
start) start ;;
*) : no op ;;
esac
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[Bug 50430] Re: NIS has problems starting before the network comes up
Here's what I use. This works for me in 10.04 (and below) but I haven't
tried it with 10.10 yet.
It sure as heck would be nice if someone paid a little attention to this
bug.
Save this as reautofs, then follow the directions in the comments.
#!/bin/sh
#
# Stupid NetworkManager doesn't wait for NIS to start before starting
# autofs, so we have no maps. Restart it.
#
# Install with:
# sudo cp ~/Downloads/reautofs /etc/init.d
# sudo update-rc.d reautofs defaults 99
#
#
# Author: Paul Smith psm...@gnu.org
start () {
nohup /bin/sh -c '
while true; do
ypwhich break;
sleep 1;
done;
/etc/init.d/autofs restart
' /dev/null /dev/null 21
}
case $1 in
start) start ;;
*) : no op ;;
esac
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[Bug 365270] Re: Move is Copy + Thrash, should be Move that removes all traces of the first.
It would be good if people could be explicit about what version of Evolution they're using AND (more importantly) what type of email server they're connecting to. Evolution has to interact with them differently (because the services have different capabilities). Are you using locally-delivered email to a local mailbox, as Knut seems to be? Are you connecting to an ISP mail provider using POP? Using IMAP? Are you connecting to Google mail? Are you connecting to an Exchange server? Something else? In short, please go to your email account (Edit-Preferences-Mail Accounts) and click the Recieving Mail tab and tell use what the Server Type setting is. I'm only speaking about connecting to IMAP servers here; I'm also familiar with Evolution connecting to Exchange servers but that works very differently. I've not used local mail delivery or POP (which work similarly to each other) in many years. In IMAP, there is no way that the current behavior of Evolution will lose mail in the way Knut suggests. A move operation is implemented as a copy and after the copy succeeds, the original is marked as deleted by setting a flag. No mail is actually removed from any folder during this operation and so no mail can be lost. In fact that is what typically generates complaints: that your trash folder has EXTRA mail in it that you didn't expect. Sometime later you will initiate an Expunge operation and that will go through your folders and remove emails that are marked as deleted. This operation is performed by the IMAP server, not Evolution (all Evolution does is send a single expunge command) in an atomic way so that it does not cause any mail loss (unless there's a bug in the IMAP server but there's nothing Evolution can do about that, and switching to a different mail client will not help). During Expunge, if you have an email that is marked deleted that you didn't actually want to be deleted then yes, it will be lost. But only mail marked deleted is gone: if you'd copied it to another folder and that copy is not marked for deletion, then the copy is still present. One way people using IMAP with Evolution can get frustrated is if they tend to store things in their Trash folder; they want to use Trash as a kind of longer-term storage folder. You definitely cannot do that with Evolution; you need to choose a different folder and put things you want to save there. FYI, Thunderbird connecting to an IMAP server has the same issues that Evolution does: they have to because an IMAP server only publishes a certain interface and all clients have to use the same interface. What Thunderbird does differently is it runs the Expunge operation for you all the time in the background. So, when you move mail in Thunderbird it does the same copy and mark as deleted operation that Evolution does, but then it also automatically runs Expunge so that the extra deleted copy is gone. When you delete mail in Thunderbird it actually moves (copy, mark as deleted, expunge) the email to a real folder (sometimes named Trash). Thus expunging doesn't cause that mail to go away, you have to delete it specifically from the Trash folder. Trevor: I'm sorry that you lost an important mail. It would be helpful if you could describe in detail the steps which caused the mail to be lost. There's nothing unsafe about the algorithm Evolution uses to move or delete mail--that is, there is no race condition, etc. in the design that could cause mail to be lost. However, all software has bugs and Evolution is no exception. It's possible that you've run across a bug and if so I'm sure the Evolution developers would like to fix it. In order to fix it they need more specific information on what happened. -- Move is Copy + Thrash, should be Move that removes all traces of the first. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/365270 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 356702] Re: Tooltips stick when switching desktops (Compiz)
Re: Sam Spilsbury: This absolutely is a bug. Regardless of whether tooltips are marked sticky or not, they are obviously supposed to be transient. This bug says that in some fairly common circumstances, the tooltip shows up for the workspace switcher and then it NEVER GOES AWAY (unless you switch to another workspace again). I've never seen a tooltip that didn't go away after a short time, and any such tooltip is obviously buggy. I don't know where the problem lies exactly: maybe an event is missed, maybe something else, but this is unquestionably a bug. -- Tooltips stick when switching desktops (Compiz) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/356702 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 365270] Re: Move is Copy + Thrash, should be Move that removes all traces of the first.
Knut: your comments reveal a relatively shallow understanding of the email environment. And they show you haven't understood the real situation with Evolution. As for discussions of how IMAP servers ought to work, you should be filing those bugs with the teams that create the IMAP servers; I'm sure they'll welcome your input. The comments around moving files into/out of Trash shows you haven't read the various discussions of the problem (even to bugs marked as duplicates in Gnome Bugzilla). There is no real Trash folder in Evolution, so there is no move or copy of email from any other folder into Trash. Trash is a virtual folder: it doesn't exist physically, but instead is constructed as a user-interface artifact, containing all the messages that are marked as deleted. Thus, to delete a message (have it appear in Trash) all that has to be done is mark that message as deleted. To undelete a message, you just remove the deleted attribute and it reappears exactly where it was before... because it was never moved anywhere else. There is no copy involved with delete, no extra space consumed, etc. And similarly, there is no copy involved with undelete either. This is why messages appear in Trash when you move them to another folder: as I've described there is no MOVE operation in IMAP, so a MOVE must be implemented as a COPY followed by a delete. When you mark a message deleted that message appears in the Trash folder. I do understand Mathias's frustration, but unfortunately it's not so simple. Mathias you suggest it's just a matter of Evolution hiding these details, but that cannot be done reliably. There is only one delete flag in IMAP, so there is no way to make a distinction on the server between messages that are deleted by hand, and those that are deleted as a side-effect of a desired move operation. They are identical as far as any IMAP client is concerned. Yes, of course, Evolution could maintain its own local list of messages that should be hidden rather than displayed in Trash because they are a side-effect of a copy/delete. However this list would be present only in that instance of Evolution. If you ever attached to your IMAP server using a different Evolution (say on a laptop or work system), or you used a webmail client or another IMAP client (maybe on your smart phone, etc.), all those extra deleted messages WOULD appear there, and you'd have even more confusion and bugs reported. -- Move is Copy + Thrash, should be Move that removes all traces of the first. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/365270 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 365270] Re: Move is Copy + Thrash, should be Move that removes all traces of the first.
Ayeyiyi. Knut, please stop trying to impress everyone with your credentials and consider that you might actually not know everything about everything quite yet, regardless of how much you know about databases. I've been programming on UNIX since before POSIX even existed and I certainly understand the concepts quite well. I'll post one last message in the hopes that others reading this will understand what's going on, at least. Since you've done a lot of DB work apparently, consider Evolution as if it were a generic open source SQL client program that can connect to lots of different types of SQL servers: Oracle, Postgres, MySQL, etc. The data is left on the server (for at least some of the protocols) and the client only provides access to the data. The client can only perform the operations that the server makes available: you can't perform Oracle-specific SQL commands on a Postgres server, etc. Suppose this client could also access databases that are local and don't have a server (sqlite databases maybe). That's a good analogy for what Evolution is. You didn't tell us what kind of server you're trying to talk to but people are assuming IMAP so I will too. If you're using something different let us know: that would be very helpful information. First, SMTP is a mail *transfer* protocol. It defines the network protocol for two mail *servers* (e.g., sendmail etc.) to talk to each other to exchange mail. In SMTP parlance these are known as MTAs, or Mail Transfer Agents. Evolution is NOT an MTA. Evolution is a Mail User Agent (MUA). The SMTP standard has virtually nothing to say about the protocol that MUA's use to talk to MTA's. In short, Evolution has virtually nothing to do with with SMTP at all (Evolution has the ability to connect directly to MTA's to _send_ mail, but it cannot, and neither does any other client, use SMTP at all when _reading_ mail, as we are discussing in this bug). Second, Evolution as an email client actually can use lots of different methods to retrieve email. It can get mail from a POP server, from an IMAP server, from a Microsoft Exchange server, or from a Novell Groupwise server. It can even read from USENET. And, of course, it can read from local mail spool files of various types. One of these types is the traditional UNIX mail spool that sendmail uses, and others are spool files left by other types of local software. Each of these uses a different protocol for getting mail. Third, Evolution does not implement the server software, at all. If you connect to a POP server then someone else wrote that POP server. It may not even be free software at all; your ISP (that you download your email from) decides all that. Ditto for all the other ways Evolution gets email. Even the local spool files are created by other software such as sendmail, etc., that Evolution has no control over. Fourth, for a number of those server types, including IMAP, Exchange, Groupwise, etc., Evolution does not manage your email locally. The email is left on the server and Evolution sends commands to the server to ask it to manipulate your email. This is what I mean when I say that the IMAP protocol doesn't support MOVE: you don't have a local copy of the email so only the server can manipulate it, and you can only ask the server to perform the commands that it supports. With other types of mailbox, such as local mail spools and POP servers, Evolution downloads your mail to your local system and manipulates it there. Obviously in these environments Evolution has a lot more flexibility in the operations it can perform. Finally, WRT searching, searching is very safe, at least in IMAP. Every addition to an email folder only ever adds to the end of the folder, never inserts in the middle, and every new message number is higher than any other message number (for that folder) that has been used before so there's never duplication. Every change to the folder is atomic (you don't get half a message added, or half an expunge performed). Every search starts at the beginning of the folder and goes to the end by first finding the current maximum message ID, then going through the folder message by message (ignoring missing messages) until that maximum is reached. If new items have been added since the search started they will have larger message IDs and are not seen for that search. Alternatively sometimes the client asks the server for a complete list of message IDs, then goes through that list. In any event, it's never a problem to have new messages added during searches. -- Move is Copy + Thrash, should be Move that removes all traces of the first. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/365270 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 365270] Re: Move is Copy + Thrash, should be Move that removes all traces of the first.
I'm loathe to get involved here since Knut seems intent on flaming and not so interested in understanding, but reading the comments here I've been struck by a great attention to irrelevant details and not much clear description of the real issue. Knut continually makes reference to a MOVE operation, as if such a thing existed. But it doesn't. If it did, you can be sure that Evolution would use it. Why can't Evolution create that operation? Because Evolution is a mail CLIENT. It talks to mail SERVERS. Evolution does not implement and cannot influence the servers. The only operations that the client can perform are those that the server supports. The servers implement the IMAP standard, and the IMAP standard does not define a MOVE operation. So, no IMAP server supports a MOVE operation, and so no IMAP client can use a MOVE operation. So good, there's no MOVE operation. The only way an IMAP client can effect a move from one folder to another is by first doing a COPY, then marking the original message as deleted, and this is what Evolution and ALL OTHER IMAP CLIENTS (yes, including Thunderbird) do. That by itself is enough to blunt some of Knut's criticisms, since no client will ever be able to avoid the creation of a new message via the COPY command. Similarly, the IMAP standard does not provide any way to delete a single message. The ONLY way to actually cause messages to disappear out of an IMAP folder is by an EXPUNGE, which takes all the messages that have been marked as deleted and removes them (not just one, but ALL of them). This is a very expensive operation, typically, for your server (as opposed to marking a message as deleted which is typically very fast). After the expunge is done, then often the client has to re-read and re- index the messages, because its local cache of which messages are marked deleted and which aren't might be wrong. The whole thing is very labor intensive on both the client and server, as well as the network. Evolution works the way that the IMAP standard writers intended clients to work: it hides deleted messages and leaves the decision about when to expunge them up to the user. The problem is that many other clients don't work like this. They don't hide the deleted messages, which leads to lots of confusion about duplicated messages, and they also expunge messages for you. For example other IMAP clients implement the semantics of MOVE by doing a COPY, marking the original as deleted, then running EXPUNGE. For every single email you delete. This is a big load on both clients and servers, AND it means that your email that you might have deleted but not wanted expunged yet, is deleted for you. This is a shame because if all clients worked the way the standard expected them to then they'd work together well. However, just like Evolution cannot change the way servers work, so it cannot change the way other clients work. So, or course Evolution should have an option to behave the way other clients do and have a physical trash folder and implement the COPY/delete/EXPUNGE semantics that other clients favor. You won't need this if you only ever use Evolution as a client but if you switch between different clients you may need it, and Evolution should provide that support. I believe they intend to but obviously this is a low priority, based on how long these bugs have been open. That's definitely a shame. As for Knut's other comments, he implies above that he read and understood the RFC Marc mentioned but that is clearly not the case. There's no such thing as cardinality of indexes in email, and there's no chance that searches will skip anything. When you do the COPY the message number on the copy is the next number in a monotonically increasing index, it is NOT inserted into the middle. When you EXPUNGE all deleted messages disappear and their numbers are gone, and NEVER re-used. There is no chance for confusion of duplicate message numbers, etc. during sorting or searching. -- Move is Copy + Thrash, should be Move that removes all traces of the first. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/365270 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: Where can I find more docs/help on upstart?
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 11:28 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Smith wrote on 04/09/10 20:46: Esp. how it interacts with Ubuntu/Debian packaging. ... So far my Google/etc. searching for admin-level details of upstart hasn't netted me very much. ... Have you found http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/? Yes, thanks for that. Most pages there are specifications for future improvements. The documentation about today's implementation doesn't give any hints about how a service can be disabled, a la update-rc.d disable. All I can find is the description of the init file. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Where can I find more docs/help on upstart?
Esp. how it interacts with Ubuntu/Debian packaging. For example on my Ubuntu 10.04 system I installed tftpd-hpa and find that it's been converted to upstart. No problem, except that I don't want it to start when my system boots, I want it to be started via xinetd (I need it to work this way in order to test compatibility with other software; please don't suggest just don't do that... I have to do it). What's the proper/recommended way to change the configuration of this package so that (a) it doesn't conflict with new packages installed, and (b) upstart does not try to start tftpd when my system boots. In the old SysV way there were fancy tools that managed the SysV symlinks and a method for modifying them that was, be consensus, preserved across upgrades/etc. How do I do the equivalent thing with upstart? I (finally) found the init.5 man page so I see the format of the config file, but is there some way to customize the startup of these packages other than hand-editing conf files? So far my Google/etc. searching for admin-level details of upstart hasn't netted me very much. Thanks! -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Discussion about bug #615504
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 11:56 -0300, Leandro de Oliveira wrote: I thought not having a versionless symlink was a bug, but it seems to be an explicit decision, if that is the case, then java apps using bluetooth will always need the user to install libbluetooth-dev instead of being able to work with the latest version. Since backwards compatibility should be a given, I don't see why there coudn't be a versionless symlink. But, backward compatibility is NOT a given; that's why we have versioned libraries in the first place. In a POSIX-y system like Linux, shared library versions work like this typically: the library filename is libfoo.so.x.y where x is the major version and y (which might have multiple parts) is the minor version. The rules are that any changes that do not modify the library ABI can change only the y version but leave the x version the same, and these can be used without recompiling code. Any changes the modify the library ABI _must_ change the x version, and all applications must link against the new version explicitly. To support this, the linker (usually) puts a reference to libfoo.so.x in the binary so that's the library that the runtime linker looks for, and the package will install a symlink libfoo.so.x which points to the currently-installed/newest libfoo.so.x.y shared library. In order for new applications to be compiled, the development package installs a symlink libfoo.so which points to the currently-installed/newest libfoo.so.x, or major version. The compile-time linker, when it sees -lfoo on the link line, will search for libfoo.so and link that, putting (as above) libfoo.so.x into the binary for the runtime linker to find. Some incorrectly-built applications force the compile-time linker to add libfoo.so, only, to the binary: this is wrong because it doesn't follow the conventions above and the libfoo.so won't be available on systems which do not have developer packages installed (as above). Note that shared libraries can reference other shared libraries and typically follow the same rules as above. You should file a bug against the Bluecove library: it's not being created properly. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[Bug 516435] Re: Any game using OpenAL has sound problems and crashes on exit
I think I've installed the update. However I'm unsure. Which version of the openal libraries should I be running? -- Any game using OpenAL has sound problems and crashes on exit https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/516435 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 516435] Re: Any game using OpenAL has sound problems and crashes on exit
I'm running libopenal1 version 1:1.8.466-2 which seems to be the latest offered, and there's no crash when closing OpenArena which is great. Did i test correctly? -- Any game using OpenAL has sound problems and crashes on exit https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/516435 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: No mouse or keyboard on 10.04 no GNOME
On Fri, 2010-04-30 at 14:28 +0100, Joao Pinto wrote: I can't work without my computer and I'm in deep trouble! Who someone help me?? This is not a support mailing list, please check: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/communitysupport When you post there, please be SURE to provide very detailed information on your hardware. That includes the form factor (desktop, laptop, etc.) as well as vendor and model number, amount of RAM, type of video card, and any other interesting things about your hardware. Also, be sure to mention what version of Ubuntu you were running before you tried to upgrade. And, a description of exactly what you did (I don't know what the save-upgrade method is). Asking good questions is the single most critical factor in getting usable help. Good luck! -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: lucid and 2.6.33?
On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 15:41 -0500, Patrick Goetz wrote: Flávio Etrusco wrote: Seriously? Ubuntu is not only about techies, it's about general use(rs) and businesses too. They have to have a solid and well-tested base. If you really wanna know what you're actually getting, you have the sources and the changelogs. It's not clear to me how a handful of folks at Canonical or RedHat splicing and dicing kernel code from one version into another necessarily gives you greater stability than an officially released kernel that has been thoroughly tested by thousands of kernel hackers First, it's not just a handful of folks. You should read up on the testing labs that both Canonical and Red Hat have in place. I wonder, these days, how many people _really_ compile their own kernel directly from kernel.org anymore? Obviously the kernel devs do it, and probably some folks using more tuner distros like Gentoo. But how many is that? I used to do it all the time but it's been years since I needed some new feature enough to spend the effort of compiling my own kernel, rather than just using what came with my distro and waiting a few months for the next distro release. Second, the 2.6.32 kernel has been declared to be a long-term stable kernel candidate by the kernel.org development team (Greg K-H), which means that it will have important fixes regularly backported to it from newer kernels by the kernel.org folks as well as RH/Canonical/etc., for much longer than normal kernels. Third, all indications are that Red Hat is going to base Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 on the 2.6.32 kernel, which means it will get very long-term support (Red Hat EL 5 is based on 2.6.18, for example), just like Lucid's LTS designation. Actually 2.6.32 is, from a scheduling standpoint, just about the most perfect choice of a kernel for Lucid there could be. But you're right, I can always just compile my own kernel, and the most stable kernels I've used are ones I compiled from kernel.org source. But then I have worry about doing all my own security patches and maintenance until such time as I upgrade the distro. Or I can pour over the Ubuntu kernel source package diffs in my spare time hoping to figure out if some feature has been backported. Allow me to cut to the chase and declare my original question to unsatisfactorily addressed. You've had bad luck with distro kernels then. As above, it's been years since a kernel failed on me badly enough to want to build my own. Every new kernel improves many things, it's true: but it's equally true that it breaks many things. To commit to providing the latest kernel always is to simply get on a treadmill that never ends: every upgrade gives you an entirely fresh new set of problems. Every distro I've ever heard of understands this and that's why they never upgrade major software versions, including the kernel, until the next release. Any serious problems discovered have fixes backported instead: that way you are always improving in quality (until the next release anyway) instead of jiggling up and down around the same level. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Evolution Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 23:02 +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote: There are plenty of stability problems with 2.28; I subscribe to the Evo mailing lists and people are constantly posting about this or that database corruption, missing mail, etc. etc. (note this is with standard IMAP or POP support, not Exchange--either OWA or MAPI). The general consensus seems to be that ever since the sqlite change back in 2.24 there have been definite issues, and these have not yet been worked out in 2.28 either. I think the 2.28 glasses are a little rosy in this case. No one is working on those issues at all that I can see, except insofar as some stability issue is fixed in 2.29 and backported (pretty rare these days). There is no perfect solution and either ways some users will be unhappy, if your real issue is the mapi support why don't we try to see what we can do about this one? Indeed. That would be lovely. What do you propose? Let's be honest. No one is going to follow the RHEL packaging of Gnome 2.28 and be porting Evolution fixes into the Ubuntu repository. Ditto for Debian. And certainly the Gnome devs won't be making new releases On what do you base those comments? In fact upstream just roll 2.28.3 less than a week ago and agreed to keep commiting changes to gnome-2-28 git when it makes sense to make collaboration between the distributions which will stay on those versions for a while easier. We do often look to fixes from other distributions too and lts versions do get new versions of GNOME usually too. I base my comments on having used Ubuntu for 4+ years now. I've never known a single Ubuntu release to ever roll out a complete Gnome service pack released after the Ubuntu release. Occasionally there will be a single app or two bumped, typically if a security fix is discovered. Even for the last 8.04 LTS, which used Gnome 2.22, the final Gnome service pack was 2.22.3 (released July 2008) and the large majority of the Evolution, in particular, packages are still (today) using 2.22.1. A couple of Evo packages are at 2.22.2, for security fixes, and nothing is at 2.22.3. As for Gnome, a 2.28.3 service pack is part of their official roadmap and completely expected. Are you saying that they are committing to 2.28.4 etc.? Since you are staying with the LAST Gnome version of Evo rather than starting with the next one you can take the latest 2.28 service pack, but I see no reason to suppose this LTS will be different than the last, or any of the other Ubuntu releases, in terms of updates. If the problem is extremely bad (like my deleting the entire inbox bug) something will get done, I suppose. If it's just a regular old bug, the devs will be off working on 10.10 and won't have time to deal with 10.04. And, I have no problem with that at all: I completely understand. To get a release out every 6 months you have to focus on the next one and limit your efforts on the earlier ones, or nothing gets accomplished. I'm fine with that normally... but in this case it'll be a year, not 6 months. Which is much less pleasant. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Evolution Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 11:23 +0200, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: Well, as far as I have heard from developers, Staying with Evolution 2.28 decision was made because 2.30 will have too big sweeping changes, like D-BUS instead of Bonobo, etc. So it is too much for LTS. What?!?! Is that really true? This is the first I've heard of this! Evo 2.30 is an integral part of Gnome 2.30--it's bogus to try to leave it behind. Evolution is at the same time one of the most important applications for deployment of Linux in a typical corporate environment (read: Exchange-based), and also one of the most problematic historically. That means we need to push _forward_, though, not hang back. There are real problems with 2.28: I can't believe anyone would prefer to stay with that over 2.30 regardless of LTS. Not all those problems are fixed in 2.30 but the Exchange MAPI support in 2.29 is far ahead of 2.28, and the new capabilities added in 2.29/2.30 for other backends solve lots of bugs and clean up all kinds of issues. Plus, if Ubuntu moves to 2.30 they will get the advantage of fixes made for 2.30.1, 2.30.2, etc. 2.28.x will be dead (is already dead, from Gnome's perspective) and backporting changes across that barrier will be extremely difficult for exactly the reasons quoted above (sweeping changes). Does Ubuntu really want to get stuck with broken Evo for the entirety of the LTS? Have the decision makers been following the development lists and trying the new version? Surely they must have some factual basis for such a decision, in terms of experienced instability, rather than just running away from the bullet list of changes. However, I don't see any problems and I've been building Evo 2.29.x from the latest git source every few days and using it in anger on all of my systems for daily email (and I get/send a LOT of email), with both IMAP and MAPI, for the last 3 months or so. It works MUCH better than 2.28. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Evolution Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 17:17 +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote: The current version of evolution is not broken and probably not over an unstable version which got some much rewrital and so few testing. Sorry, but that's wrong: 2.28 is unquestionably broken. To quote you, Glad that it works for you it doesn't mean that everything is bugless. The Exchange MAPI support simply does not work, except maybe for the most trivial cases. Color me unimpressed with statements to the contrary: within a few days of using it the first time last fall I ran across a bug (which I discovered already filed in bugzilla for months, and not fixed yet!) that caused my entire INBOX on the Exchange server to be completely deleted. I had to request from IT that it be restored from backup. Good times. That one got fixed (eventually) but it was just the first one I ran into, and those are just the bugs. There are MAPI _features_ that simply don't work in 2.28, especially related to calendaring. I'll tell you how broken it is: I still run Outlook in Crossover rather than Evo 2.28--and I loathe Outlook more than just about any software I've ever used. Glad that it works for you it doesn't mean that everything is bugless. That's a straw man. The question isn't whether it's bugless or not: the question is whether it's better than Evo 2.28 or not. The Ubuntu team decided to stay a known version because jumping on a rewrite not done yet would be risky and would requiring having ressourcing working chasing bugs and updates for that new version. Have the Ubuntu devs actually tried using the new version? Have they run into problems? Has anyone on the Ubuntu team contacted the Evo developer's lists to ask their opinion and discuss the stability with other users of 2.29.x? Is the decision based on anything more concrete than reading the roadmap? You can also note that the next RHEL version will use 2.28 and that Debian might be doing so in their coming stable, it means this version will keep being stabilized and worked. Let's be honest. No one is going to follow the RHEL packaging of Gnome 2.28 and be porting Evolution fixes into the Ubuntu repository. Ditto for Debian. And certainly the Gnome devs won't be making new releases upstream, although Ubuntu rarely packages them anyway. In my experience (using Ubuntu since 2006 or so, including LTS versions) only the most egregious bugs get addressed in the LTS and of course, no new features will be available. Anything that was broken in 9.10 as well will not be considered a regression, and so won't be addressed at all unless it's a security fix. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[Bug 516435] [NEW] Any game using OpenAL has sound problems and crashes on exit
Public bug reported: I've been using Jaunty for a long time, but only a week ago I upgraded to Karmic via the software installer. Since then, both OpenArena and AssaultCube have had frame rate problems (particularly in open spaces. Enclosed spaces seem to be ok). The sound starts ok, and everything runs fine. But after a few minutes the sound stutters and then falls silent. After this point, any attempt to exit the game will cause the system to freeze. Its definitely the system that fails, there is no way of killing the process. I am forced to use the reset switch on my pc to do a hardware restart of the system. From some research it seems that there may be a problem between OpenAL and Pulseaudio. I was using version 1.8 of OpenAL, so I upgraded to version 1.10 and everything seemed okay for a day. Then the sound became distorted again and the original problem resurfaced. There is another bug, #351732, which describes a similar problem. However #351732 is based on Jaunty. ** Affects: openal (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Any game using OpenAL has sound problems and crashes on exit https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/516435 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 516435] Re: Any game using OpenAL has sound problems and crashes on exit
Ah, I forgot to say I'm using Kubuntu. -- Any game using OpenAL has sound problems and crashes on exit https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/516435 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 491542] Re: Installation of ia32-sun-java6-bin fails in Karmic
Cool... sounds straightforward to fix. Is someone going to do it? :-) -- Installation of ia32-sun-java6-bin fails in Karmic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/491542 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 213574] Re: Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 50430 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/50430 Chuck, can you please undo the duplicate status of this bug? This is NOT a duplicate of bug 50430 -- Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/213574 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to autofs in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 213574] Re: Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 50430 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/50430 Chuck, can you please undo the duplicate status of this bug? This is NOT a duplicate of bug 50430 -- Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/213574 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90681] Re: resolv.conf overwritten using VPN/PPP etc...
I'm not sure why you think retrieving domain info from the DHCP server will do anything to help the problem, which is that the Ubuntu DHCP client is overwriting the resolv.conf file and replacing nameservers that were added due to VPN connections. -- resolv.conf overwritten using VPN/PPP etc... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90681 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dhcp3 in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 90681] Re: resolv.conf overwritten using VPN/PPP etc...
I'm not sure why you think retrieving domain info from the DHCP server will do anything to help the problem, which is that the Ubuntu DHCP client is overwriting the resolv.conf file and replacing nameservers that were added due to VPN connections. -- resolv.conf overwritten using VPN/PPP etc... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90681 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90681] Re: resolv.conf overwritten using VPN/PPP etc...
Is anyone ever going to do anything about this? I know it's not an easy problem but there are solutions here which will help at least some of the people and which are not harmful (for example, not updating /etc/resolv.conf on RENEW if the old nameserver is still present). If we could do at least that, then we'd solve this problem for a lot of people with little effort and no deleterious effects. Please?? -- resolv.conf overwritten using VPN/PPP etc... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90681 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dhcp3 in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 90681] Re: resolv.conf overwritten using VPN/PPP etc...
Is anyone ever going to do anything about this? I know it's not an easy problem but there are solutions here which will help at least some of the people and which are not harmful (for example, not updating /etc/resolv.conf on RENEW if the old nameserver is still present). If we could do at least that, then we'd solve this problem for a lot of people with little effort and no deleterious effects. Please?? -- resolv.conf overwritten using VPN/PPP etc... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90681 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 356702] Re: tooltips stick when they shouldn't
Argh. Can someone please look at this? I guess some people just have a certain speed of moving the mouse that causes this to happen: it happens to me about 80% of the time that I click on the switcher applet. I know it sounds stupid and minor, but it is SO INCREDIBLY ANNOYING! I can build/install/test patches, etc. Just let me know what I can do to help. -- tooltips stick when they shouldn't https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/356702 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 356702] Re: tooltips stick when they shouldn't
Are we sure this is really a bug in compiz? It seems too early to determine that and reassign the bug. There are plenty of other tooltips that are used in other applications and I never see those hang up like this using compiz. It seems to only be a combination of libwnk and compiz that shows the problem... which means the problem might be in compiz, but it might also be in libwnk. Just because libwnk doesn't show this issue with metacity and does with compiz doesn't mean it's compiz's fault. Anyway. Hopefully this doesn't turn into one of those bugs that falls between the cracks of different packages, and so is not ever fixed by anyone. It would be great if one package would own the issue long enough to investigate the problem and understand the behavior sufficiently to justify reassigning it, before doing so. -- tooltips stick when they shouldn't https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/356702 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 497578] [NEW] Workspace switcher shows tooltips constantly that won't disappear
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: gnome-panel Since I've upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10, I've noticed that the tooltips in the workspace switcher that show the name of the selected window (Click to start dragging ...) will sometimes not go away. It seems to happen most if I use the mouse to click on a different screen in the switcher, then move my mouse right away (but not RIGHT away--just about the time it normally takes me to move my mouse away, apparently) out of the switcher into the normal desktop. In that case the tooltip that the switcher pops up does not go away again: it's like some event was missed or something. The tooltip will stay there forever until I (a) switch to another desktop with CTRL- ALT-arrow or similar, or (b) move my mouse over either the upper or lower panel (any part of it). Just selecting a different window on the same screen doesn't cause the tooltip to go away. It's very frustrating because it happens probably 80% of the time that I use my mouse to choose a different screen, and I have my screens organized by work activity and I'm often switching back and forth. It sounds minor but it's extremely annoying to have these yellow tooltips showing up and not going away unless I go do something. If anyone has any suggestions about ways I could narrow down the problem, etc. I'm intereested!! I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 64bit, with Workspace Switcher 2.28.0. ** Affects: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Workspace switcher shows tooltips constantly that won't disappear https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/497578 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: is anyone ever going to fix this major bug?
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 12:30 -0800, Brendan Miller wrote: This bug more or less makes apt-get unusable on 64 bit systems and has been in for a long time now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/402833 Is this still a problem in Karmic? I don't have that file on my system, and a search of packages available doesn't give any package named ia32-libs-tools. Not saying it shouldn't be fixed in Jaunty, I'm just wondering if there's an issue in Karmic as well--if so I think it must be different (different package names, etc.?) than the Jaunty issue. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bug#559761: ITP: release -- provides information about the current releases
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 00:14 +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Benjamin Drung bdr...@ubuntu.com * Package name: release Version : 0.1 (native) Upstream Author : Benjamin Drung bdr...@ubuntu.com * License : GPL v3+ Programming Lang: Python Description : provides information about the current releases This package contains information about all releases of Debian and Ubuntu. The release script will give you the codename for e.g. the latest stable release of your distribution. To get information about a specific distribution there are the debian-release and the ubuntu-release scripts. I wonder what the difference is between this and the existing, standard lsb_release command. I'm not saying we shouldn't create a new package, if lsb_release is not sufficient for some reason. I'm just not sure what the reason is. Can someone write up a few sentences about what this package does that makes it necessary, instead of using lsb_release? Cheers! -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[Bug 491542] [NEW] Installation of ia32-sun-java6-bin fails in Karmic
Public bug reported:
I think this is a dup of bug #485135 but for some reason the person who
filed that bug later closed it as Invalid; it's definitely _not_
invalid. This is a real bug; maybe the ia86-sun-java6-bin package needs
to be updated since a newer sun-java6 release was made for the 64bit
packages? Something like that.
On my fully up-to-date 9.10 64bit system with sun-java6 installed, when
I try to run:
~$ sudo aptitude install ia32-sun-java6-bin
I get this failure:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
ia32-sun-java6-bin
The following NEW packages will be installed:
lib32nss-mdns{a}
0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 29.1MB of archives. After unpacking 86.7MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
ia32-sun-java6-bin: Depends: sun-java6-jre (= 6-15-1) but 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04
is installed.
It does offer to solve this for me by downgrading my sun-java6 packages:
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
sun-java6-fonts
sun-java6-jdk
Downgrade the following packages:
sun-java6-bin [6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04 (now) - 6-15-1 (karmic)]
sun-java6-jre [6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04 (now) - 6-15-1 (karmic)]
Score is 188
but this definitely should not be necessary.
ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: amd64
Date: Wed Dec 2 14:40:42 2009
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
Package: ia32-sun-java6-bin (not installed)
ProcEnviron:
SHELL=/bin/bash
PATH=(custom, user)
LANG=C
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-15.50-generic
SourcePackage: sun-java6
Uname: Linux 2.6.31-15-generic x86_64
** Affects: sun-java6 (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Tags: amd64 apport-bug
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Installation of ia32-sun-java6-bin fails in Karmic
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[Bug 13983] Re: Evolution virtual trash / real trash on IMAP server
Sebastien is correct that Carl's message is missing information. Evo most definitely DOES mark messages as deleted and does NOT expunge them (unless you use the Expunge action of course; the keybinding for this is CTRL-E so it's possible Carl hit it by accident). The entire concept of storing your email in your main INBOX, marked as deleted, but wanting to keep it around, is fraught with danger--it takes only a slip of a finger to delete all those messages. Hopefully Carl will choose a more reliable and less dangerous method of storing wanted email in the future, such as moving it to a folder: that's why people use IMAP after all, for the folder support. I don't know about the search feature issue; if it's a feature of only newer IMAP servers it's possible Evo doesn't support it. However, I don't think Sebastien's characterization of the bug is correct either. People don't want delete to erase emails. What this bug is asking for is that delete should actually move the emails to another physical folder on the IMAP server, rather than what it does now, which is mark the email as deleted on the server (and make it visible in the virtual folder Trash). Just to be clear, the way Evo works is the way the IMAP standard intends IMAP to be used. There is absolutely no question about that. I don't understand Busby's comment: I think he's just raising a straw man. The way the IMAP standard intended email moves to be done is exactly how Evo does it: you copy the message to the target folder, then mark the original for deletion. IMAP is a very problematic protocol, because it lets the underlying implementation, which is often counter-intuitive to people, show through into the standard. This not only means that the behavior of the server (what things are easy and what things are hard) is visible through the protocol, but it also biases the implementation in various ways. For example, IMAP assumes that it's very difficult to delete messages from a folder: this is because many implementations of mail servers keep all mail in a given folder in one long file: deleting a message out of the file involves rewriting the whole file... and even for medium-sized folders that's expensive. Even if your IMAP server implementation used something more intelligent such as one file per email with directories for folders, or if it used a database backend, or whatever, so that deletes are cheap, the IMAP standard carries with it the baggage of the early implementations. This also proscribes the way IMAP is intended to be used. The model IMAP intends is that you save up your deletions for a while, then do them all in bulk. Thus, the standard creates a /deleted flag (flags are typically kept in a metadata file or even a database on the server, that is much cheaper to manipulate than the very large raw email file). The idea is you delete messages, and copy-then-delete messages, etc. and at the end of these operations you run the expunge command and all those deletes finally take effect. The model is that you run expunge regularly (maybe every time you exit your mail client, or maybe after every session of using email), but NOT after every single delete or copy operation (TB by default does it this way). The way Evo works is perfectly in line with the standard. The standard assumes that the client has some intelligence behind the way it handles messages marked with the /Deleted flag. Evo uses a virtual folder for this (I understand and agree with the issues of the virtual folder hiding real folders with the same name: that's truly a bug). I've used lots of IMAP clients and I've never seen one that didn't offer some kind of Hide deleted messages by default option. Maybe there are such out there, and if so that definitely sucks for people forced to use them. Also apparently there are servers that overload the /Deleted flag for other purposes that are not compliant with the standard, such as spam, which also sucks (of course it really sucks that IMAP was developed without, and has not been enhanced to provide, any support for managing spam directly). If people want to use Evo, regardless of whether you use it by itself or with other email clients, you have to get into the habit of expunging regularly (not after every delete, mind you, but _regularly_). If you do that, then switching to a different client will be no problem. I do it all the time with various different webmail and other IMAP clients, including Evo, and I never have any issues. If you don't expunge regularly, then nothing works well. You can say it's Evo's fault, but it's not really: that's the way IMAP was designed to be used and that's the best way to use it. All that being said, I'm definitely a fan of choice and I'd dearly love for someone to implement a solution that lets the other side, who can't or won't use IMAP as designed for whatever reason, have what they want (if nothing else so we don't have to have this conversation every few frakking
[Bug 479491] [NEW] mt-daapd crashes in libavcodec whenever I try to play music
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: mt-daapd I just upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic, and now mt-daapd dumps core immediately when I try to play music. I have another system running Karmic as well and I'm using Rhythmbox. I see my shared music in the remote Rhythmbox and if I click on it I see all my music listed. But immediately when I click the Play button, the mt-daapd on the server dumps core. Here is output from running mt-daapd -d9 -f under GDB: Executing: select * from songs where id=2022 Creating new db handle Entering config_set_status Exiting config_set_status Session 0: Streaming file '03 - When the Golden Leaves Begin to Fall.ogg' to x.y.1.1 (offset 0) Transcoding /home/psmith/Music/Wayfaring Strangers/This Train/03 - When the Golden Leaves Begin to Fall.ogg with ssc-ffmpeg/svn-1696 opening /home/psmith/Music/Wayfaring Strangers/This Train/03 - When the Golden Leaves Begin to Fall.ogg opening file with format Updating Content-Type from application/x-dmap-tagged to audio/wav Updating Connection from close to Close Emitting reponse header Expires: -1 Emitting reponse header Cache-Control: no-cache Emitting reponse header DAAP-Server: firefly/svn-1696 Emitting reponse header Accept-Ranges: bytes Emitting reponse header Content-Language: en_us Emitting reponse header Content-Type: audio/wav Emitting reponse header Server: mt-daapd/svn-1696 Emitting reponse header Connection: Close Emitting reponse header Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:27:35 GMT Channels...: 2 Sample rate: 44100 Bits/Sample: 16 Swab...: 0 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 0xb525fb70 (LWP 5329)] 0xb7a5b385 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavcodec.so.52 (gdb) bt #0 0xb7a5b385 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavcodec.so.52 #1 0xb771e6fb in avcodec_decode_audio2 () from /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavcodec.so.52 #2 0xb7fd1009 in _ssc_ffmpeg_read_frame () from /usr/lib/mt-daapd/plugins/ssc-ffmpeg.so #3 0xb7fd13f4 in ssc_ffmpeg_read () from /usr/lib/mt-daapd/plugins/ssc-ffmpeg.so #4 0x0806ce80 in __plugin_ssc_copy () #5 0x0806cf9e in plugin_ssc_transcode () #6 0x0805b8c3 in pi_stream () #7 0xb7fd6657 in ?? () from /usr/lib/mt-daapd/plugins/out-daap.so #8 0xb7fd6b70 in plugin_handler () from /usr/lib/mt-daapd/plugins/out-daap.so #9 0x080550ea in ws_dispatcher () #10 0xb7f9580e in start_thread (arg=0xb525fb70) at pthread_create.c:300 #11 0xb748a7ee in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/clone.S:130 ** Affects: mt-daapd (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- mt-daapd crashes in libavcodec whenever I try to play music https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/479491 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: Ubuntu Domain Server
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:56 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: It doesn't matter how much work is involved. Do you think the Linux/Ubuntu community would be willing to change the way system logons work if it meant bug #1 could be completed? Let us see. To change the way system logons work would mean changing pam, the C library and just about anything that has to do with system accounts. You are welcome to try to convince the Ubuntu community to maintain a fork of all these essential system libraries and offer some form of backwards compatibility to avoid having to also modify who knows how many other packages like sendmail, apache, bind, ..., ..., ..., everything. You guys need to step back a bit. There's absolutely no reason whatever that this _feature_ cannot be implemented on UNIX/Linux. Yes, obviously the _implementation_ that relies on changing the UID/GID scheme is a complete non-starter and cannot even be considered. There's no chance that anyone upstream will be willing to break that behavior and as you say, Ubuntu cannot essentially rewrite the entire GNU/Linux operating system to do away with it (don't forget that UID/GID is heavily embedded in the kernel, too, so Ubuntu would have to rework the kernel itself extensively). If this is Ryan's question then the answer is definitely no, not even if it meant bug #1 could be completed. Let's all remember our goal here is NOT to beat Microsoft by becoming a free version of Windows. Our goal is to produce a better product, while still staying true to the UNIX roots and philosophy (which we believe will lead to better software). However, luckily for us we do not HAVE to change or do away with UID/GID in order to implement automatic joins of a workstation. There's absolutely no reason that user paul.smith cannot have UID 1000 on one system and UID 2000 on another system: you just need to implement a mapping mechanism. But there are so many things to be considered before you even get here that impact directly on this. For example, obviously security is critical and so you'll need a secure way to do AAA. How do you add users? How do users authenticate? Etc. etc. All critical questions. Most likely you will need to base this on Kerberos, just because there's nothing else out there with the requisite features + security, that I know of anyway. Once you have that figured out you must end up with some secure token which represents a user that you can present to other systems as proof of identity. Then all you have to do is have each host map that token to a locally relevant UID/GID. UID/GID cannot be used between hosts, anyway, in any secure fashion. That's just one idea. I'm certainly NOT saying it's not a lot of work. I'm saying that it can be done, and it doesn't require throwing out 30+ years of UNIX/POSIX history to do it, so let's not dismiss the big idea based only on one possible bad implementation. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: PulseAudio Managers
On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 23:50 -0400, komputes wrote: And has anyone seen this little blurb from Lennart? Did Ubuntu really f**k this up or http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/pa-in-ubuntu.html Hasn't this been fixed for over a week? + 0053-fix-sigsegv-module-bluetooth-device.patch: Don't strcmp uninitialized memory (LP: #437293 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/437293) This is actually the patch that Lennart calls an outright insult... and based on the link in his blog he's absolutely right; that change is ridiculous and, as a maintainer of a free software package myself, if someone modified my code like that in a major distribution like Ubuntu I'd be P.O.'d as well. I'm sure Daniel does great work most of the time, but this change looks like a dud to me. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: PulseAudio Managers
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 00:39 -0400, Daniel Chen wrote:
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Paul Smith p...@mad-scientist.us wrote:
time, but this change looks like a dud to me.
Clearly the right way to debug this is to comment out the patch in
debian/series and see why pa_streq() is being passed crap. Anyone with
bt hardware and valgrind up for it?
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32493850/Stacktrace.txt
The question is what's the point of the patch at all? If the contents
of address are bad, what's gained by allocating memory, copying the bad
contents into it, and comparing that (then freeing the memory)?
Either the address pointer itself is pointing into bad memory, in which
case the act of sprintf'ing it into the newly allocated memory will fail
just like the strcmp does, or else the string that address points to is
bad in some way, in which case what's the point of making a copy of
it; the copy will just be bad the same way anyway.
Plus, unless pa_sprintf_malloc() can handle NULL pointers properly
(possible, I didn't check) this patch actually INTRODUCES a bug that
wasn't present in the original code, by not testing address for NULL
before using it.
The patch should be reverted and the bug should be reopened: this change
has no chance of solving the problem.
Looking at the stacktrace above, it seems that address is a perfectly
legal pointer, pointing to the string (null) (not a NULL pointer!)
Maybe there was some confusion about this. It seems that this string
was generated in the pa_hook_fire() function. Maybe someone passed a
NULL pointer to a sprintf() variant here; on some systems (Solaris for
example) if you pass a NULL pointer to *printf() for a %s character,
rather than dumping core, it just prints a token like (null).
Personally I think this is a stupid idea; I'd much rather get a core
dump I can debug than have random data generated by my code with no
errors.
Since address is known to not be NULL, that must mean d-address is NULL
since that's apparently why the core dump was generated. Since the
prior if-statement seems to ensure that d is not NULL, that means that
d-address itself is NULL. I have no idea how/why that might happen.
If you want a change that will inhibit the core dump, changing the test
from:
if (address !(pa_streq(d-address, address))) {
to:
if (address d-address !(pa_streq(d-address, address))) {
would help a lot more than the current change, as far as I can see.
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[Bug 401713] Re: DMRAID only detect first subset on Intel ICH10R
Installer from a karmic AMD64 desktop version (10/13/09) didn't find the second RAID set. Even when full boot with Live CD, GParted also didn't properly see the 2nd set. Details: Tested with 2 hard drives x 1.0TB, Raid0 (ICH10R), splitted in two sets (300GB + 1.7GB). As mentioned before on the thread, the reason for such configuration was just bare raw performance. Btw, didn't install Karmic on the first set because it's already being fully used for other purposes and OS's. I'm most positive that unfortunately this will slip throw on to the final 9.10 release. -- DMRAID only detect first subset on Intel ICH10R https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/401713 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 438366] Re: software-center crashed with AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Element'
software-center worked for me when I first installed Karmic (brand new 64bit system loaded using the Karmic beta CD). Then I customized my system by installing a LOT of new stuff, including dev packages, etc. Now I get this message whenever I start it. Surely there's some kind of debug flag for Python that will give more information about exactly where this problem is coming from? I'm a Perl hacker myself so I don't know much about debugging Python but if there's anything I can do let me know. -- software-center crashed with AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Element' https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/438366 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 213574] Re: Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 50430 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/50430 On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 18:16 +, Chuck Short wrote: *** This bug is a duplicate of bug 50430 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/50430 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 50430 NIS has problems starting before the network comes up Why has this bug been marked as a duplicate of 50430? 50430 talks about NIS (ypbind) not working properly on NetworkManager enabled systems. That should be fixed for a few releases now, and indeed I haven't seen it on my systems in a while. My suspicion is that the people who are still having trouble are really having problems with NetworkManager not detecting/reporting the network status of their systems properly (saying the network is up when it isn't or vice versa). This bug (213574) is about autofs not working properly on NetworkManager enabled systems. That is basically the same problem, but a completely different package (in fact that's my major complaint about NetworkManager: adding it to your system requires that you go around and hack on each network-aware service on your system, one at a time, to make them compatible with NetworkManager). I've not upgraded to Karmic but I've seen absolutely nothing that leads me to believe anyone has made any effort to enhance autofs, either the daemon itself (a la ypbind) or even just the init scripts, to be NM-aware. Until that happens this bug will not be fixed. What has to happen on a very abstract level is that you can't start autofs until all the services that it utilizes (based on /etc/nsswitch.conf for example) are running, if they are supposed to be started. It's hard because on many systems, /etc/nsswitch.conf lists nis or nisplus as a source for automount, and yet these services are not enabled. On other systems, automount data is taken from LDAP. Other places it comes from flat files. Etc. And remember, by running I don't just mean that the init script has completed. In the brave new world of NetworkManager, having the init script complete does NOT mean that the service is available. It just means that it may _become_ available, sometime later. autofs has to wait until these services are actually active, before it can start. In the old days, with a simple serialized boot process implying that once an init script was complete that service was available, this was simple. Now it's become very tricky indeed. -- Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/213574 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to autofs in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 213574] Re: Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 50430 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/50430 On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 18:16 +, Chuck Short wrote: *** This bug is a duplicate of bug 50430 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/50430 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 50430 NIS has problems starting before the network comes up Why has this bug been marked as a duplicate of 50430? 50430 talks about NIS (ypbind) not working properly on NetworkManager enabled systems. That should be fixed for a few releases now, and indeed I haven't seen it on my systems in a while. My suspicion is that the people who are still having trouble are really having problems with NetworkManager not detecting/reporting the network status of their systems properly (saying the network is up when it isn't or vice versa). This bug (213574) is about autofs not working properly on NetworkManager enabled systems. That is basically the same problem, but a completely different package (in fact that's my major complaint about NetworkManager: adding it to your system requires that you go around and hack on each network-aware service on your system, one at a time, to make them compatible with NetworkManager). I've not upgraded to Karmic but I've seen absolutely nothing that leads me to believe anyone has made any effort to enhance autofs, either the daemon itself (a la ypbind) or even just the init scripts, to be NM-aware. Until that happens this bug will not be fixed. What has to happen on a very abstract level is that you can't start autofs until all the services that it utilizes (based on /etc/nsswitch.conf for example) are running, if they are supposed to be started. It's hard because on many systems, /etc/nsswitch.conf lists nis or nisplus as a source for automount, and yet these services are not enabled. On other systems, automount data is taken from LDAP. Other places it comes from flat files. Etc. And remember, by running I don't just mean that the init script has completed. In the brave new world of NetworkManager, having the init script complete does NOT mean that the service is available. It just means that it may _become_ available, sometime later. autofs has to wait until these services are actually active, before it can start. In the old days, with a simple serialized boot process implying that once an init script was complete that service was available, this was simple. Now it's become very tricky indeed. -- Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/213574 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
RE: Why Ubuntu is not ready for prime time
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 18:30 +0100, paul.mcma...@met.police.uk wrote: Quicken, Outlook, Powerpoint, they're all bizzare names. Doesn't mean that Ubuntu can't do one better ;-) I believe the menu system is better in Ubuntu than Windows, however all apps could do with having their function added to their name. As like Firefox Web Browser. We know what Firefox is, but in my office (still working on Windows 2000!) I don't think I'm the majority. I'm not disagreeing with your statement, I just think that your wish is already largely a reality. I took a look through my menus (9.04) and as far as I can tell ALL the standard applications have their function shown, either by itself (Terminal) or in addition to the name (Rhythmbox Music Player). There are some apps I've installed from multiverse, etc. that are not standard parts of Ubuntu where this pattern is not followed (e.g., Emacs 22) but things you've explicitly installed yourself are less critical in this respect. If you find apps where this isn't the case I think filing a bug in Launchpad is perfectly reasonable. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Why Ubuntu is not ready for prime time
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 19:23 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: I guess Jonathan Taylor is joking or trolling here, one of the main advantage of using Linux distributions for desktops is that every application is automatically categorized where, on Windows, every application is NOT categorized... Start-Programs-Adobe-Photoshop v.x-Photoshop How is one supposed to know to look under Adobe for Photoshop? Why isn't it under Graphics or Photo Editors or some such menu? Exactly. That's an example of how Windows organizes its menus (in case you didn't notice the Start menu reference), and it's obviously bogus. The other example (that you clipped) is how Ubuntu does it, which is much simpler to understand. Yet the OP raised menu organization as a thing that Ubuntu does _badly_. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Why Ubuntu is not ready for prime time
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 18:48 +0200, Vincent Arnoux wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 18:23, Dotan Cohendotanco...@gmail.com wrote: I guess Jonathan Taylor is joking or trolling here, one of the main advantage of using Linux distributions for desktops is that every application is automatically categorized where, on Windows, every application is NOT categorized... Start-Programs-Adobe-Photoshop v.x-Photoshop How is one supposed to know to look under Adobe for Photoshop? Why isn't it under Graphics or Photo Editors or some such menu? After the application is installed, a bubble notification guides you to the newly installed program by highlighting the path in the start menu. This part would be nice to see in our DE's. This enhancement would be nice, but I'm sure you'll agree it's in no way comparable to having sane menus in the first place. It's great the first time you install something but what about an application you use only once in a great while? The second time you need it the highlighting will be long gone, and yet you can't remember where in the heck that program went to! Also, Windows has it's own fair share of programs whose names are not very evocative. If it wasn't one of the most well-known programs in the world would you guess that Quicken was a program for handling your finances? Cheers! -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[Bug 50430] Re: NIS has problems starting before the network comes up
S28NetworkManager simply requires that networkmanager be started. That does NOT guarantee that you have an active network connection. The whole idea behind NM is that it will manage network connection and disconnect for the system, behind the scenes. What's happening here is that NM comes up and starts trying to bring the network up in the background. In the meantime the init process continues along to the next item to be started. This is the major paradigm shift that NM brings in, but unfortunately it requires that every network service be rewritten to be NM-aware and use dbus so that they can delay starting up until NM tells them the network is available. If they don't do that then there is no way your system can be robust while using NM. ypbind has been modified to speak NM, so as long as NM is properly reporting the network connection status for your system (apparently this is quite difficult to get right, for whatever reason) then NIS should be working OK at this point. However, other network services, most notably autofs (see for example bug #213574 ), do not speak NM, even today (years after it was introduced). So, NM still breaks many enterprise systems. -- NIS has problems starting before the network comes up https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/50430 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 213574] Re: Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS
I think many newer environments are switching from NIS to ActiveDirectory (in Windows deployments) or LDAP, for both user account info as well as things like automount. I've never used a setup like that so I can't say whether it works better or not with networkmanager. Certainly it's ridiculous that this has been broken for years in Ubuntu. I've never worked at a company that DIDN'T use this model for mapping directories, and not just home directories but all sorts of standard shared directories. It works so nicely with Red Hat: you just bring up a system, tell it to use DHCP and what its hostname is, and voila! All is perfect: you have your DNS servers configured, NIS service configured, NTP service configured, hostname entered into DNS, etc. No effort required. On Ubuntu, many of these things don't work and require manual tweaking, for no reason that I can see except that no one has felt it was a priority to fix the problems. Pity. -- Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/213574 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 242400] Re: laptop powers off immediately after login
Excellent! I did this on my dad's laptop over the weekend and it worked perfectly. I had a minor heart attack when I upgraded the BIOS since it was going along no problem and then BANG without warning the machine powered off--I've done enough BIOS upgrades to freak out that I'd just turned my dad's laptop into a paperweight. However, when I pressed the power button it booted right up, the BIOS version said 2.00, and I was able to use the latest 8.04 kernel and it stayed running for days. Sweet! Thanks Mac! -- laptop powers off immediately after login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/242400 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 213574] Re: Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS
Nope. Pretty sad. I guess no one at Canonical / Ubuntu cares much about legacy UNIX environments based on NIS. RedHat, SuSE, etc. have had this working out of the box for years and years. It worked on Ubuntu, too, until network manager came along. What I do on my systems is create a new service that runs late and simply waits for NIS to be up, then restarts autofs. I've attached it. See the comments for how to install it. This is a bogus smelly hack but it works. ** Attachment added: reautofs http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28074504/reautofs -- Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/213574 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 339987] Re: evolution 2.25.92 evolution-mapi unable to create account
Following the advice I read somewhere else on the intertubes, I used the IP address of my exchange server instead of the hostname when I was creating my account. Crazily enough, that worked like a charm!! That's... an embarrassing bug I think. But, give it a shot. -- evolution 2.25.92 evolution-mapi unable to create account https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/339987 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 342096] Re: SD Card containing /home corrupted on resume. ext4. Dell Mini 9.
Yeah, I get same problem on my Acer Aspire One . Installed with latest download of USB install from 2009-04-17. Updated packages to latest and then encountered the problem. I have a 16GB SDHC card, formatted to ext4 and mounted as /home. The filesystem is corrupt. It mentions about the journal being invalid. Sorry but I haven't got the output from dmesg. It is entirely reproducable. For some reason the install won't let me try XFS else I would have tried that. ** Summary changed: - SD Card containing /home corrupted on resume. ext4. Dell Mini 9. + SD Card containing /home corrupted on resume. ext4. -- SD Card containing /home corrupted on resume. ext4. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/342096 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: Removing single program from multi program packages
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 08:53 -0400, Mike Jones wrote: If Ubuntu said Ok Boss and pretended to remove one specific program from a package for me, through the single add or remove programs to your system interface of add/remove, that would be... better, but not really the best solution due to the inherent dishonesty. I think this is not better, at all. As others have mentioned if you want items to be removed from your menus then you can do that already with the menu editor. Having your computer lie to you is, IMO, much more unpleasant than having it truthfully tell you I can't do that for you. Is there just no way for a package maintaner to not have extra work piled on their already hefty load while at the same time we allow a user of Ubuntu to remove most traces of a program in a package with multiple programs without having to also remove the rest of them? Is it worth doing even if its possible? I think I'm in a somewhat unique position of having extreme distaste whenever my system tells me I can't do something in a counter intuitive way. It telling me it can't make my chair float on an anti-gravity sled is fine... it telling me that if I don't want one program of a package, I'm not allowed to have any of them in the package... thats not so great. Of course you can remove anything from your system that you want. You have complete and absolute control over the contents of your disk, should you choose to exercise it. The package manager manages packages, it doesn't manage individual files. However, there are plenty of tools on a Linux system that do manage individual files, such as cp, mv, and, most interestingly for you, rm. So, if you have specific files that you don't want to appear on your system, simply use a shell and rm them, or use the file browser to remove them if you prefer a graphical interface (you will need to get administrative privileges before either of these will be successful). The package manager has no say in this. Of course, if at the end of this you discover you have a broken system... well, then, as the saying goes: you get to keep both halves :-) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[Bug 213574] Re: Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS
I'm not so sure that's it. There's no NetworkManager in /etc/init.d at all in 8.04, which I'm using, and it still has this problem. -- Autofs fails to start with maps from NIS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/213574 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: Ubuntu and language packs
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 15:47 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 20:57 +0100, Surfaz Gemon Meme wrote: If they know English, do not need English support of Ubuntu. If they do not know English, I do not think the English support of Ubuntu could change something. There are different values of know. They might know enough English to file a bug saying Firefox crashed but then the logs they post will be in, for example, Croatian. Most triagers don't speak Croatian, so we can't read the logs. And the reporter might not know enough English to translate all of the tech jargon in the logs, besides the amount of time it'd take. At least the icons on the buttons can help when they use an English version to gather English logs. I thought I'd just post this so everyone is on the same page WRT internationalization in GNU/Linux systems. For those that already know, sorry for the noise :-) GNU/Linux uses the gettext package for i18n. There are other packages used by other UNIX systems, which use large catalogs of numbers to look up the right translations for each string, but this is a big pain and is especially painful for distributed development/translation teams such as you're likely to have in free software. Gettext uses a really interesting trick to avoid the need for predefined catalogs, at the expense of some runtime effort. Basically, it uses the string to be translated itself as the key for looking up the translated string. At runtime, when a translation is needed, the gettext library is invoked with the static string to be translated as the argument. It generates a hash based on the contents of that string, then looks up the hashed value in the translation catalog. If there's an entry for that hashed value, then it is returned to the caller. If there is no entry, then the string that was provided is returned. What does this mean for the current discussion? It means that the default string is encoded right into the program. So, even if NO language packs are provided, all gettext programs will still print the default string. This default is typically called the C locale, for hysterical raisins. Virtually all default strings are written in English. So, if you're happy with the default strings you really don't need to install any language packs whatsoever. And certainly, if you want to use a different locale than English, you can get away with ONLY that locale being installed; if you don't have a satisfactory translation of the string in your chosen locale it will use the default string... and that's in English. Or if it isn't it's definitely in whatever language the developers of that utility wrote the code in :-). IOW, there's really no reason to specifically install the English language packs, if you don't want to use a locale of en_US or whatever. Certainly you don't need to do it for any sort of debugging purposes. If you want to force no locale to generate screenshots or whatever you can just use LC_ALL=C firefox. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [Bug 242400] Re: laptop powers off immediately after login
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 18:07 +, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: You mentioned that you were doing all these tests with it plugged in, but the computer claims it's unplugged. What if it really is unplugged? That's an excellent question; I don't remember if I tried that or not. I don't have access to the system at the moment. I'll send an email and see if I can get an answer for you. -- laptop powers off immediately after login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/242400 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 242400] Re: laptop powers off immediately after login
Well, it's been like this for quite a while now and there are no other signs of any kind of instability on the system. And of course as I mentioned, if I use the older kernel it works fine. And, this system can dual-boot Windows and Windows doesn't seem to have any problems with it. Also, it doesn't have anything to do with overheating I don't believe; I can have it completely powered off and do a cold start and it will still turn itself off after a few minutes, every single time. It really seems unlikely to me to be a hardware problem, given the above facts. However, if you have any ideas about what I might do to prove or disprove faulty hardware as the culprit, I'm willing to try it out. -- laptop powers off immediately after login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/242400 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 242400] Re: laptop powers off immediately after login
I created an Ubuntu 8.10 install CD and tried to boot off that; it also powered down the system after some amount of time. The system got to the point where it was trying to load the desktop, then shut off. -- laptop powers off immediately after login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/242400 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 242400] Re: laptop powers off immediately after login
He didn't bring it last time. But, he's visiting again so I have access to this laptop until Wednesday morning EST (7 Jan 2009). Earlier this week I tried upgrading to 8.10, but it was a disaster. First, it doesn't fix this bug; after a minute or so the laptop powers down. I don't even need to log in. I just boot it, it goes to the login screen, and I let it sit and it powers down. When I power it back up again I can't find anything in the log files (in /var/log) that might give any indication as to why it decided to power down. Second, now I can't seem to even use the laptop properly with the older (2.6.20 / Feisty) kernel, which I carefully preserved by marking it as keep using aptitude. Now when I boot with that kernel half the time neither the mouse nor the keyboard work properly: I can successfully use C-A-F1 to get a console and type there, but any attempt to type (such as enter my username in the login box) or move the mouse in X is ignored completely. And, when the mouse/keyboard do work, after 20 minutes or so I get a core dump in X and my session goes away, or else sometimes the screen goes blank and the system is unresponsive although it seems very busy (the fan is going for example). I realize these are different issues, but I'm not sure I can file them given that I'm using a much older kernel. The reality is I'm going to have to downgrade him back to Ubuntu 8.04 at some point before he leaves, since currently the laptop is unusable regardless of which kernel I choose. I'll try to re-run the experiment in controlled conditions (I was at my sister's house so I didn't have all my spelunking tools like another Linux system to try to log in remotely etc.) and see what I can find. -- laptop powers off immediately after login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/242400 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 242400] Re: laptop powers off immediately after login
Here's something weird. I upgraded to 8.10, but my kernel still says 2.6.25, not 2.6.27. It's like the new Intrepid kernel was not installed...?!?! I wonder if setting a keep on the older kernel caused a problem. I'm going to forcibly install the newer Intrepid kernel. -- laptop powers off immediately after login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/242400 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 242400] Re: laptop powers off immediately after login
OK, I installed 2.6.27-11 from proposed but still see the same behavior. After a minute or two the laptop simply powers down. -- laptop powers off immediately after login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/242400 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 242400] Re: laptop powers off immediately after login
** Tags added: linux-2.6.27 -- laptop powers off immediately after login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/242400 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
