Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-08 Thread wouter Vandenneucker

great SoZi I'll check it when I'm on my other pc later today..

 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 18:02:13 +0200
 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament 
 REPORT - 02/06/11
 
 Wouter,
 
 you were (rightfully) complaining about the poor quality of the Impress
 templates in LibreOffice.
 
 I once collected a set of them online (don't remember where though...)
 I've put them on my dropbox - you can download them if you want:
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7584025/Ubuntu_ODP_Templates.tar.bz2
 (15,7 MiB uncompressed)
 
 They can be a basis for designing - or just the plain package for our
 localized CD imo...
 
 Grtz,
 Jurgen.
 
 P.S. For the lovers of Prezi... there's a great Inkscape plugin that
 creates similar SVG-presentations - it's called SoZi!
 
 
 On 06/03/2011 09:20 PM, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:
  *= ISO =*
  To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are
  going to make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make
  life easier for Belgian Users.
  We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at:
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be
  updated..)
  We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed
  to dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!
  The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small
  decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.
  
  *PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
  Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team should try to
  endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu
  need to be taken in account.
  A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the
  11.04 ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)
  
  Values:
  
  - We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but
  include a minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general
  interest for belgian citizens.
  - No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues
  and ubuntu values)
  - Support to the Ubuntu guidelines
  - Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with
  video's we make)
  - Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the
  software center, we should make people use it!
  - Keeping things simple
  - No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a specific type
  of user. 
  
  
  Needed:
  
  - Both a 32bit and a 64bit version
  - Fully supported languages by default: en, de, nl, fr (as default
  boot language English is suggested)
  - Based on Ubuntu 11.04
  - Only Gnome classic and Unity interface
  - AZERTY by default
  - USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is
  booted in live mode.
  - Default homepage in firefox should be Ubuntu-be.org.
  - E-ID program and driver 
  
  
  Unwanted:
  
  - PPA's (at least for now as a PPA gives us responibility for
  security breaches) [exception for ppa's without security issues (see
  later)]
  - Extra DE's
  - Media players and other stuff that requires restricted extras
  - 'professional' software
  - Unity 2D (yet) (once we hit 11.10 it will be default fallback and
  stable enough for us to integrade.)
  - Software of which we aren't sure it's going to be supported for
  the time the ubuntu version is supported. 
  
  
  Wanted:
  
  - (Pre-boot) GUI should list the 4 languages prior to the install
  proces
  - Possiblity for both a Persistent and a Pristine boot would be nice
  (U-fr uses only persistent) 
  
  
  What we might want to add (later):
  
  - Instruction Videos should endorse our users to explorer and get to
  know their system, yet keep it simple enough for everyone to follow 
  Videos showing apps that might be usefull for some but not for all
  can be handled here so people find their way to them..
  - A PPA for Ubuntu-be containing LibreOffice Impress templates and
  Desktop Wallpapers is adviced. 
  Due to the lack of goodlooking LibreOffice Impress templates, the
  Desktop Wallpapers are just a way to promote ourselves..
  might be added later, no need to stall the project for this..
  we could ask OSPublish to make us a wallpaper
  - We could make some dedicated distro's as well afterwards (a
  kubuntu one, or a rescue version..) 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-07 Thread Jurgen Gaeremyn
Wouter,

you were (rightfully) complaining about the poor quality of the Impress
templates in LibreOffice.

I once collected a set of them online (don't remember where though...)
I've put them on my dropbox - you can download them if you want:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7584025/Ubuntu_ODP_Templates.tar.bz2
(15,7 MiB uncompressed)

They can be a basis for designing - or just the plain package for our
localized CD imo...

Grtz,
Jurgen.

P.S. For the lovers of Prezi... there's a great Inkscape plugin that
creates similar SVG-presentations - it's called SoZi!


On 06/03/2011 09:20 PM, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:
 *= ISO =*
 To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are
 going to make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make
 life easier for Belgian Users.
 We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be
 updated..)
 We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed
 to dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!
 The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small
 decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.
 
 *PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
 Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team should try to
 endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu
 need to be taken in account.
 A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the
 11.04 ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)
 
 Values:
 
 - We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but
 include a minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general
 interest for belgian citizens.
 - No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues
 and ubuntu values)
 - Support to the Ubuntu guidelines
 - Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with
 video's we make)
 - Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the
 software center, we should make people use it!
 - Keeping things simple
 - No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a specific type
 of user. 
 
 
 Needed:
 
 - Both a 32bit and a 64bit version
 - Fully supported languages by default: en, de, nl, fr (as default
 boot language English is suggested)
 - Based on Ubuntu 11.04
 - Only Gnome classic and Unity interface
 - AZERTY by default
 - USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is
 booted in live mode.
 - Default homepage in firefox should be Ubuntu-be.org.
 - E-ID program and driver 
 
 
 Unwanted:
 
 - PPA's (at least for now as a PPA gives us responibility for
 security breaches) [exception for ppa's without security issues (see
 later)]
 - Extra DE's
 - Media players and other stuff that requires restricted extras
 - 'professional' software
 - Unity 2D (yet) (once we hit 11.10 it will be default fallback and
 stable enough for us to integrade.)
 - Software of which we aren't sure it's going to be supported for
 the time the ubuntu version is supported. 
 
 
 Wanted:
 
 - (Pre-boot) GUI should list the 4 languages prior to the install
 proces
 - Possiblity for both a Persistent and a Pristine boot would be nice
 (U-fr uses only persistent) 
 
 
 What we might want to add (later):
 
 - Instruction Videos should endorse our users to explorer and get to
 know their system, yet keep it simple enough for everyone to follow 
 Videos showing apps that might be usefull for some but not for all
 can be handled here so people find their way to them..
 - A PPA for Ubuntu-be containing LibreOffice Impress templates and
 Desktop Wallpapers is adviced. 
 Due to the lack of goodlooking LibreOffice Impress templates, the
 Desktop Wallpapers are just a way to promote ourselves..
 might be added later, no need to stall the project for this..
 we could ask OSPublish to make us a wallpaper
 - We could make some dedicated distro's as well afterwards (a
 kubuntu one, or a rescue version..) 

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-04 Thread Jan Bongaerts
From wikipedia:
In 2006, scientists researching the ancestry of birds turned on a chicken
recessive gene, talpid2, and found that the embryo jaws initiated formation
of teeth, like those found in ancient bird fossils. John Fallon, the
overseer of the project, stated that chickens have ...retained the ability
to make teeth, under certain conditions..

Sorry for you, Martijn. Off to the shops it is.
 On Jun 3, 2011 11:54 PM, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Me getting an Android phone? Like we say in our dialect: when the chickens
 grow teeth :-)

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:49, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 in dutch: 'hopla'. Thats what I call putting the whip on :p
 You're doing great already..

 now the only thing you should do is lose that iPhone and use an android
 phone :p

 grts

 --
 From: mcie...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:37:01 +0200
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European
Parliament
 REPORT - 02/06/11

 Whiplash is my middle name ;-)
 If no-one has objections to me taking the lead, I'll organize an
installment
 meeting for the ISO team somewhere next week.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:34, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 Sounds great! good to have you on board.
 We aren't asking that you give up your work or such.. :p
 So we can count on you to give people a whiplash if things are starting to
 stall? :p

 grts


 wouter

 --
 From: mcie...@gmail.commcie...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:26:17 +0200
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.comubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European
Parliament
 REPORT - 02/06/11

 As I don't have much time to do hands on stuff at the moment (full
 renovation, fulltime work and 1 year young doughter), but I want to
 contribute something to Ubuntu-be, I'm offering to become the project
 manager for the Belgian ISO.

 Kindest regards,

 Martijn

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:21, wouter Vandenneucker  wouterv...@hotmail.com
 wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:

 *IRC ISO/USB Project Meeting Report Ubuntu-be - Thursday 2nd of June
2011*
 Present at the meeting (in random order): ehj (
 http://epfsug.euepfsug.euEuropean Parliament), YoBoY (ubuntu-fr
 leadership), Skynetbbs, DarkEra,
 LarsB, warddr, jurgentje, JanC, StefandeVries, pvr, woutervddn
 (note: this isn't a regular weekly meeting)


 Agenda topics: ISO Project, USB Project, General things concerning these
 projects
 Extra topic on the agenda: Ubuntu fest at the European Parliament


 *= ISO =*
 To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are going
 to make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make life
 easier for Belgian Users.
 We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be
 updated..)
 We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed to
 dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!
 The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small
 decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.

 *PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
 Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team should try to
 endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu need
to
 be taken in account.
 A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the
 11.04 ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)

 Values:

 - We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but include a
 minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general interest for
 belgian citizens.
 - No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues and
ubuntu
 values)
 - Support to the Ubuntu guidelines
 - Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with
video's
 we make)
 - Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the software
 center, we should make people use it!
 - Keeping things simple
 - No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a specific type of
user.


 Needed:

 - Both a 32bit and a 64bit version
 - Fully supported languages by default: en, de, nl, fr (as default boot
 language English is suggested)
 - Based on Ubuntu 11.04
 - Only Gnome classic and Unity interface
 - AZERTY by default
 - USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is booted in
 live mode.
 - Default homepage in firefox should be http://Ubuntu-be.org
Ubuntu-be.org.
 - E-ID program and driver


 Unwanted:

 - PPA's (at least for now as a PPA gives us responibility for security
 breaches) [exception for ppa's without security issues (see later)]
 - Extra DE's
 - Media players and other stuff that requires restricted extras
 - 'professional' software
 - Unity 2D (yet

Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-04 Thread martijn cielen
In that case... Nay.

Maybe one day, but for the time being the iPhone is far superior to any
Android phone when comparing total user experience. Not that I have anything
against Android, but I don't see it becoming as accepted and easy to
integrate as the iPhone just yet.

Sent from my iPhone

On 4-jun.-2011, at 10:02, Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com wrote:

From wikipedia:
In 2006, scientists researching the ancestry of birds turned on a chicken
recessive gene, talpid2, and found that the embryo jaws initiated formation
of teeth, like those found in ancient bird fossils. John Fallon, the
overseer of the project, stated that chickens have ...retained the ability
to make teeth, under certain conditions..

Sorry for you, Martijn. Off to the shops it is.
 On Jun 3, 2011 11:54 PM, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Me getting an Android phone? Like we say in our dialect: when the chickens
 grow teeth :-)

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:49, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 in dutch: 'hopla'. Thats what I call putting the whip on :p
 You're doing great already..

 now the only thing you should do is lose that iPhone and use an android
 phone :p

 grts

 --
 From: mcie...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:37:01 +0200
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European
Parliament
 REPORT - 02/06/11

 Whiplash is my middle name ;-)
 If no-one has objections to me taking the lead, I'll organize an
installment
 meeting for the ISO team somewhere next week.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:34, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 Sounds great! good to have you on board.
 We aren't asking that you give up your work or such.. :p
 So we can count on you to give people a whiplash if things are starting to
 stall? :p

 grts


 wouter

 --
 From: mcie...@gmail.commcie...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:26:17 +0200
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.comubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European
Parliament
 REPORT - 02/06/11

 As I don't have much time to do hands on stuff at the moment (full
 renovation, fulltime work and 1 year young doughter), but I want to
 contribute something to Ubuntu-be, I'm offering to become the project
 manager for the Belgian ISO.

 Kindest regards,

 Martijn

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:21, wouter Vandenneucker  wouterv...@hotmail.com
 wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:

 *IRC ISO/USB Project Meeting Report Ubuntu-be - Thursday 2nd of June
2011*
 Present at the meeting (in random order): ehj (
 http://epfsug.euepfsug.euEuropean Parliament), YoBoY (ubuntu-fr
 leadership), Skynetbbs, DarkEra,
 LarsB, warddr, jurgentje, JanC, StefandeVries, pvr, woutervddn
 (note: this isn't a regular weekly meeting)


 Agenda topics: ISO Project, USB Project, General things concerning these
 projects
 Extra topic on the agenda: Ubuntu fest at the European Parliament


 *= ISO =*
 To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are going
 to make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make life
 easier for Belgian Users.
 We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be
 updated..)
 We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed to
 dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!
 The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small
 decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.

 *PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
 Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team should try to
 endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu need
to
 be taken in account.
 A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the
 11.04 ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)

 Values:

 - We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but include a
 minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general interest for
 belgian citizens.
 - No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues and
ubuntu
 values)
 - Support to the Ubuntu guidelines
 - Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with
video's
 we make)
 - Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the software
 center, we should make people use it!
 - Keeping things simple
 - No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a specific type of
user.


 Needed:

 - Both a 32bit and a 64bit version
 - Fully supported languages by default: en, de, nl, fr (as default boot
 language English is suggested)
 - Based on Ubuntu 11.04
 - Only Gnome classic and Unity interface
 - AZERTY by default
 - USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is booted in
 live mode.
 - Default

Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-04 Thread Steven Leeman
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:01 PM, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com wrote:

 In that case... Nay.

 Maybe one day, but for the time being the iPhone is far superior to any
 Android phone when comparing total user experience. Not that I have anything
 against Android, but I don't see it becoming as accepted and easy to
 integrate as the iPhone just yet.


i hope you are using a jailbroken iphone...
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-04 Thread Bram Gadeyne
I'm goiing to give it a try using UCK.

grtz Bram

2011/6/4 Steven Leeman ste...@leeman.be

 On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:01 PM, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com wrote:

 In that case... Nay.

 Maybe one day, but for the time being the iPhone is far superior to any
 Android phone when comparing total user experience. Not that I have anything
 against Android, but I don't see it becoming as accepted and easy to
 integrate as the iPhone just yet.


 i hope you are using a jailbroken iphone...

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[Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-03 Thread wouter Vandenneucker

IRC ISO/USB Project Meeting Report Ubuntu-be - Thursday 2nd of June 
2011Present at the meeting (in random order): ehj (epfsug.eu European 
Parliament), YoBoY (ubuntu-fr leadership), Skynetbbs, DarkEra, LarsB, warddr, 
jurgentje, JanC, StefandeVries, pvr, woutervddn(note: this isn't a regular 
weekly meeting)

Agenda topics: ISO Project, USB Project, General things concerning these 
projectsExtra topic on the agenda: Ubuntu fest at the European Parliament

= ISO =To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are 
going to make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make life 
easier for Belgian Users.We discussed this project before, more info about that 
can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages 
should be updated..)We need some people who take the lead in this project so it 
won't bleed to dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step 
forward!The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small 
decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.
PROJECT GUIDELINES:Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team 
should try to endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of 
Ubuntu need to be taken in account.A target date should be set in order to keep 
things moving. (having the 11.04 ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)
Values:- We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but include a 
minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general interest for belgian 
citizens.- No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues and 
ubuntu values)- Support to the Ubuntu guidelines- Endorse users to get to know 
their system (we can teach them with video's we make)- Canonical has put a 
serious amount of time in developing the software center, we should make people 
use it!- Keeping things simple- No 'special' programs or programs only usefull 
to a specific type of user.
Needed:- Both a 32bit and a 64bit version- Fully supported languages by 
default: en, de, nl, fr (as default boot language English is suggested)- Based 
on Ubuntu 11.04- Only Gnome classic and Unity interface- AZERTY by default- USB 
key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is booted in live mode.- 
Default homepage in firefox should be Ubuntu-be.org.- E-ID program and driver
Unwanted:- PPA's (at least for now as a PPA gives us responibility for security 
breaches) [exception for ppa's without security issues (see later)]- Extra 
DE's- Media players and other stuff that requires restricted extras- 
'professional' software- Unity 2D (yet) (once we hit 11.10 it will be default 
fallback and stable enough for us to integrade.)- Software of which we aren't 
sure it's going to be supported for the time the ubuntu version is supported.
Wanted:- (Pre-boot) GUI should list the 4 languages prior to the install 
proces- Possiblity for both a Persistent and a Pristine boot would be nice 
(U-fr uses only persistent)
What we might want to add (later):- Instruction Videos should endorse our users 
to explorer and get to know their system, yet keep it simple enough for 
everyone to follow  Videos showing apps that might be usefull for some but 
not for all can be handled here so people find their way to them..- A PPA for 
Ubuntu-be containing LibreOffice Impress templates and Desktop Wallpapers is 
adviced.  Due to the lack of goodlooking LibreOffice Impress templates, the 
Desktop Wallpapers are just a way to promote ourselves..  might be added 
later, no need to stall the project for this..   we could ask OSPublish to make 
us a wallpaper- We could make some dedicated distro's as well afterwards (a 
kubuntu one, or a rescue version..)

= USB =The ISO we make should find it's way to belgian ubuntu users. We need a 
way to get it out. One of these ways is a USB drive.CDs are slow and netbooks 
(often) come without a CD drive, selling USBs instead of giving away CDs sets 
Ubuntu-be on its way to the future.As with the ISO team, we need people who 
believe in this project and put their wings underneath it to make it fly.A 
leader for this project has the same job as the ISO leader: make sure the 
project keeps going and doesn't stall or bleed to dead.Participants to this 
projects and candidate leaders: step forward.A WIKIpage should be created for 
this.
PROJECT GUIDELINES:These guidelines are just a beginning, the USB team should 
try to endorse them and add more detail to them. The general ideas and 
guidelines of Ubuntu need to be taken in to account.We should try to finish the 
USB project within the same period as the ISO project is finished. 
Collaboration between the ISO project and the USB project is crusial.
The hardware:- 4GB- The logo must say Ubuntu-be.org instead of just Ubuntu-be.  
woutervddn will make some logos somewhere next week, feel free to make your 
own. The logo is our billboard, it should look amazing!- No fancy stick, just 

Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-03 Thread martijn cielen
As I don't have much time to do hands on stuff at the moment (full
renovation, fulltime work and 1 year young doughter), but I want to
contribute something to Ubuntu-be, I'm offering to  become the project
manager for the Belgian ISO.

Kindest regards,

Martijn

Sent from my iPhone

On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:21, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
wrote:

*IRC ISO/USB Project Meeting Report Ubuntu-be - Thursday 2nd of June 2011*
Present at the meeting (in random order): ehj (epfsug.eu European
Parliament), YoBoY (ubuntu-fr leadership), Skynetbbs, DarkEra, LarsB,
warddr, jurgentje, JanC, StefandeVries, pvr, woutervddn
(note: this isn't a regular weekly meeting)


Agenda topics: ISO Project, USB Project, General things concerning these
projects
Extra topic on the agenda: Ubuntu fest at the European Parliament


*= ISO =*
To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are going
to make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make life
easier for Belgian Users.
We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be
updated..)
We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed to
dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!
The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small
decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.

*PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team should try to
endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu need to
be taken in account.
A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the
11.04 ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)

Values:

- We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but include a
minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general interest for
belgian citizens.
- No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues and ubuntu
values)
- Support to the Ubuntu guidelines
- Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with video's
we make)
- Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the software
center, we should make people use it!
- Keeping things simple
- No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a specific type of user.


Needed:

- Both a 32bit and a 64bit version
- Fully supported languages by default: en, de, nl, fr (as default boot
language English is suggested)
- Based on Ubuntu 11.04
- Only Gnome classic and Unity interface
- AZERTY by default
- USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is booted in
live mode.
- Default homepage in firefox should be Ubuntu-be.org.
- E-ID program and driver


Unwanted:

- PPA's (at least for now as a PPA gives us responibility for security
breaches) [exception for ppa's without security issues (see later)]
- Extra DE's
- Media players and other stuff that requires restricted extras
- 'professional' software
- Unity 2D (yet) (once we hit 11.10 it will be default fallback and stable
enough for us to integrade.)
- Software of which we aren't sure it's going to be supported for the time
the ubuntu version is supported.


Wanted:

- (Pre-boot) GUI should list the 4 languages prior to the install proces
- Possiblity for both a Persistent and a Pristine boot would be nice (U-fr
uses only persistent)


What we might want to add (later):

- Instruction Videos should endorse our users to explorer and get to know
their system, yet keep it simple enough for everyone to follow
Videos showing apps that might be usefull for some but not for all can be
handled here so people find their way to them..
- A PPA for Ubuntu-be containing LibreOffice Impress templates and Desktop
Wallpapers is adviced.
Due to the lack of goodlooking LibreOffice Impress templates, the Desktop
Wallpapers are just a way to promote ourselves..
might be added later, no need to stall the project for this..
we could ask OSPublish to make us a wallpaper
- We could make some dedicated distro's as well afterwards (a kubuntu one,
or a rescue version..)



*= USB =*
The ISO we make should find it's way to belgian ubuntu users. We need a way
to get it out. One of these ways is a USB drive.
CDs are slow and netbooks (often) come without a CD drive, selling USBs
instead of giving away CDs sets Ubuntu-be on its way to the future.
As with the ISO team, we need people who believe in this project and put
their wings underneath it to make it fly.
A leader for this project has the same job as the ISO leader: make sure the
project keeps going and doesn't stall or bleed to dead.
Participants to this projects and candidate leaders: step forward.
A WIKIpage should be created for this.

*PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
These guidelines are just a beginning, the USB team should try to endorse
them and add more detail to them. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu
need to be taken in to account.
We should try to finish the USB 

Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-03 Thread wouter Vandenneucker

Sounds great! good to have you on board.We aren't asking that you give up your 
work or such.. :pSo we can count on you to give people a whiplash if things are 
starting to stall? :p
grts

wouter

From: mcie...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:26:17 +0200
To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament 
REPORT - 02/06/11

As I don't have much time to do hands on stuff at the moment (full renovation, 
fulltime work and 1 year young doughter), but I want to contribute something to 
Ubuntu-be, I'm offering to  become the project manager for the Belgian ISO.

Kindest regards,
Martijn

Sent from my iPhone
On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:21, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:



IRC ISO/USB Project Meeting Report Ubuntu-be - Thursday 2nd of June 
2011Present at the meeting (in random order): ehj (epfsug.eu European 
Parliament), YoBoY (ubuntu-fr leadership), Skynetbbs, DarkEra, LarsB, warddr, 
jurgentje, JanC, StefandeVries, pvr, woutervddn
(note: this isn't a regular weekly meeting)


Agenda topics: ISO Project, USB Project, General things concerning these 
projectsExtra topic on the agenda: Ubuntu fest at the European Parliament


= ISO =
To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are going to 
make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make life easier for 
Belgian Users.
We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at: 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be 
updated..)
We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed to 
dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!
The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small 
decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.

PROJECT GUIDELINES:Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team 
should try to endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of 
Ubuntu need to be taken in account.
A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the 11.04 
ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)

Values:- We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but include a 
minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general interest for belgian 
citizens.
- No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues and ubuntu 
values)- Support to the Ubuntu guidelines
- Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with video's we 
make)- Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the software 
center, we should make people use it!
- Keeping things simple- No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a 
specific type of user.

Needed:
- Both a 32bit and a 64bit version- Fully supported languages by default: en, 
de, nl, fr (as default boot language English is suggested)
- Based on Ubuntu 11.04- Only Gnome classic and Unity interface- AZERTY by 
default
- USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is booted in live 
mode.- Default homepage in firefox should be Ubuntu-be.org.
- E-ID program and driver
Unwanted:
- PPA's (at least for now as a PPA gives us responibility for security 
breaches) [exception for ppa's without security issues (see later)]
- Extra DE's- Media players and other stuff that requires restricted extras
- 'professional' software- Unity 2D (yet) (once we hit 11.10 it will be default 
fallback and stable enough for us to integrade.)
- Software of which we aren't sure it's going to be supported for the time the 
ubuntu version is supported.

Wanted:- (Pre-boot) GUI should list the 4 languages prior to the install proces
- Possiblity for both a Persistent and a Pristine boot would be nice (U-fr uses 
only persistent)

What we might want to add (later):
- Instruction Videos should endorse our users to explorer and get to know their 
system, yet keep it simple enough for everyone to followVideos showing 
apps that might be usefull for some but not for all can be handled here so 
people find their way to them..
- A PPA for Ubuntu-be containing LibreOffice Impress templates and Desktop 
Wallpapers is adviced.   Due to the lack of goodlooking LibreOffice Impress 
templates, the Desktop Wallpapers are just a way to promote ourselves..
might be added later, no need to stall the project for this..   we 
could ask OSPublish to make us a wallpaper
- We could make some dedicated distro's as well afterwards (a kubuntu one, or a 
rescue version..)


= USB =The ISO we make should find it's way to belgian ubuntu users. We need a 
way to get it out. One of these ways is a USB drive.
CDs are slow and netbooks (often) come without a CD drive, selling USBs instead 
of giving away CDs sets Ubuntu-be on its way to the future.As with the ISO 
team, we need people who believe in this project and put their wings underneath 
it to make it fly.
A leader for this project has the same job as the ISO leader: make

Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-03 Thread martijn cielen
Whiplash is my middle name ;-)
If no-one has objections to me taking the lead, I'll organize an installment
meeting for the ISO team somewhere next week.

Sent from my iPhone

On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:34, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
wrote:

Sounds great! good to have you on board.
We aren't asking that you give up your work or such.. :p
So we can count on you to give people a whiplash if things are starting to
stall? :p

grts


wouter

--
From: mcie...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:26:17 +0200
To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament
REPORT - 02/06/11

As I don't have much time to do hands on stuff at the moment (full
renovation, fulltime work and 1 year young doughter), but I want to
contribute something to Ubuntu-be, I'm offering to  become the project
manager for the Belgian ISO.

Kindest regards,

Martijn

Sent from my iPhone

On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:21, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
wrote:

*IRC ISO/USB Project Meeting Report Ubuntu-be - Thursday 2nd of June 2011*
Present at the meeting (in random order): ehj (epfsug.eu European
Parliament), YoBoY (ubuntu-fr leadership), Skynetbbs, DarkEra, LarsB,
warddr, jurgentje, JanC, StefandeVries, pvr, woutervddn
(note: this isn't a regular weekly meeting)


Agenda topics: ISO Project, USB Project, General things concerning these
projects
Extra topic on the agenda: Ubuntu fest at the European Parliament


*= ISO =*
To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are going
to make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make life
easier for Belgian Users.
We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be
updated..)
We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed to
dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!
The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small
decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.

*PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team should try to
endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu need to
be taken in account.
A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the
11.04 ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)

Values:

- We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but include a
minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general interest for
belgian citizens.
- No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues and ubuntu
values)
- Support to the Ubuntu guidelines
- Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with video's
we make)
- Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the software
center, we should make people use it!
- Keeping things simple
- No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a specific type of user.


Needed:

- Both a 32bit and a 64bit version
- Fully supported languages by default: en, de, nl, fr (as default boot
language English is suggested)
- Based on Ubuntu 11.04
- Only Gnome classic and Unity interface
- AZERTY by default
- USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is booted in
live mode.
- Default homepage in firefox should be Ubuntu-be.org.
- E-ID program and driver


Unwanted:

- PPA's (at least for now as a PPA gives us responibility for security
breaches) [exception for ppa's without security issues (see later)]
- Extra DE's
- Media players and other stuff that requires restricted extras
- 'professional' software
- Unity 2D (yet) (once we hit 11.10 it will be default fallback and stable
enough for us to integrade.)
- Software of which we aren't sure it's going to be supported for the time
the ubuntu version is supported.


Wanted:

- (Pre-boot) GUI should list the 4 languages prior to the install proces
- Possiblity for both a Persistent and a Pristine boot would be nice (U-fr
uses only persistent)


What we might want to add (later):

- Instruction Videos should endorse our users to explorer and get to know
their system, yet keep it simple enough for everyone to follow
Videos showing apps that might be usefull for some but not for all can be
handled here so people find their way to them..
- A PPA for Ubuntu-be containing LibreOffice Impress templates and Desktop
Wallpapers is adviced.
Due to the lack of goodlooking LibreOffice Impress templates, the Desktop
Wallpapers are just a way to promote ourselves..
 might be added later, no need to stall the project for this..
we could ask OSPublish to make us a wallpaper
- We could make some dedicated distro's as well afterwards (a kubuntu one,
or a rescue version..)



*= USB =*
The ISO we make should find it's way to belgian ubuntu users. We need a way
to get it out. One of these ways is a USB drive.
CDs are slow and netbooks (often) come without a CD drive

Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-03 Thread wouter Vandenneucker

in dutch: 'hopla'. Thats what I call putting the whip on :pYou're doing great 
already..
now the only thing you should do is lose that iPhone and use an android phone :p
grts

From: mcie...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:37:01 +0200
To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament 
REPORT - 02/06/11

Whiplash is my middle name ;-)If no-one has objections to me taking the lead, 
I'll organize an installment meeting for the ISO team somewhere next week.

Sent from my iPhone

On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:34, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:


Sounds great! good to have you on board.We aren't asking that you give up your 
work or such.. :pSo we can count on you to give people a whiplash if things are 
starting to stall? :p

grts

wouter

From: mcie...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:26:17 +0200

To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament 
REPORT - 02/06/11


As I don't have much time to do hands on stuff at the moment (full renovation, 
fulltime work and 1 year young doughter), but I want to contribute something to 
Ubuntu-be, I'm offering to  become the project manager for the Belgian ISO.


Kindest regards,
Martijn

Sent from my iPhone
On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:21, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:




IRC ISO/USB Project Meeting Report Ubuntu-be - Thursday 2nd of June 
2011Present at the meeting (in random order): ehj (epfsug.eu European 
Parliament), YoBoY (ubuntu-fr leadership), Skynetbbs, DarkEra, LarsB, warddr, 
jurgentje, JanC, StefandeVries, pvr, woutervddn

(note: this isn't a regular weekly meeting)



Agenda topics: ISO Project, USB Project, General things concerning these 
projectsExtra topic on the agenda: Ubuntu fest at the European Parliament



= ISO =

To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are going to 
make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make life easier for 
Belgian Users.

We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at: 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be 
updated..)

We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed to 
dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!

The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small 
decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.


PROJECT GUIDELINES:Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team 
should try to endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of 
Ubuntu need to be taken in account.

A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the 11.04 
ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)


Values:- We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but include a 
minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general interest for belgian 
citizens.

- No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues and ubuntu 
values)- Support to the Ubuntu guidelines

- Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with video's we 
make)- Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the software 
center, we should make people use it!

- Keeping things simple- No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a 
specific type of user.


Needed:

- Both a 32bit and a 64bit version- Fully supported languages by default: en, 
de, nl, fr (as default boot language English is suggested)

- Based on Ubuntu 11.04- Only Gnome classic and Unity interface- AZERTY by 
default

- USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is booted in live 
mode.- Default homepage in firefox should be Ubuntu-be.org.

- E-ID program and driver
Unwanted:

- PPA's (at least for now as a PPA gives us responibility for security 
breaches) [exception for ppa's without security issues (see later)]

- Extra DE's- Media players and other stuff that requires restricted extras

- 'professional' software- Unity 2D (yet) (once we hit 11.10 it will be default 
fallback and stable enough for us to integrade.)

- Software of which we aren't sure it's going to be supported for the time the 
ubuntu version is supported.


Wanted:- (Pre-boot) GUI should list the 4 languages prior to the install proces

- Possiblity for both a Persistent and a Pristine boot would be nice (U-fr uses 
only persistent)


What we might want to add (later):
- Instruction Videos should endorse our users to explorer and get to know their 
system, yet keep it simple enough for everyone to followVideos showing 
apps that might be usefull for some but not for all can be handled here so 
people find their way to them..

- A PPA for Ubuntu-be containing LibreOffice Impress templates and Desktop 
Wallpapers is adviced.   Due to the lack of goodlooking LibreOffice Impress 
templates, the Desktop Wallpapers are just a way to promote ourselves..

might be added later