[Bug 1007543] Re: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users
Sorry, posted to wrong bug. Please ignore comment #9 (not relevent here) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1007543 Title: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1007543/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1007543] Re: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users
There's more... After another very long delay to install packages, it asks you for "PAM profiles to enable". Q: Why would this ever need to change on an upgrade? If it really is absolutely necessary to ask the user about this, then factor out the data-collection part so it can be run before starting the upgrade (perhaps passing the resulting data as options to the relevant program). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1007543 Title: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1007543/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1007543] Re: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users
I've been collecting up links to the various bugs about prompts during upgrades: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1309802 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1007543 Title: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1007543/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1007543] Re: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1007543 Title: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1007543/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1007543] Re: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users
** Project changed: ubuntu-release-upgrader => ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1007543 Title: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1007543/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1007543] Re: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1007543 Title: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1007543/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1007543] Re: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users
** Also affects: ubuntu-release-upgrader Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1007543 Title: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1007543/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1007543] Re: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users
It seems there are still developers who are happy using shells who don't understand ordinary users who aren't. Ordinary users who want to upgrade don't want to have to open a shell and type monstrosities such as "do-release-upgrade -d -f DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive" (and it's even mixed case!!). This is another example of how offputting Ubuntu can be for ordinary users. We need to raise our game (LP Bug #1) Voting in support of the idea that a graphical-interface for upgrading must remain strictly graphical at all times. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1007543 Title: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager-core/+bug/1007543/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1007543] Re: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: update-manager-core (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1007543 Title: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager-core/+bug/1007543/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1007543] Re: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users
If you need to specify a specific answer use the following sudo sh -c 'echo "y\n\ny\nN\nN\nN\nN\nN\nN\nN\nN\nN\nN\nN\n" | DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive /usr/bin/do-release-upgrade' I agree though, the documentation should be a little better the functionality is there. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1007543 Title: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager-core/+bug/1007543/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1007543] Re: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users
Try using do-release-upgrade -d -f DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1007543 Title: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager-core/+bug/1007543/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1007543] Re: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users
The level of interaction seemingly required by do-release-upgrade is a pain for experienced users too. I've just upgraded about a dozen machines to precise. Using do-release- upgrade is apparently the supported way to do this, but requires a frustratingly high level of interaction, asking several questions which seem to have perfectly sane default answers, and these questions aren't all asked together, meaning each upgrade stalls a number of times waiting for user input. Setting the debconf threshold to "critical" didn't make much difference. For me, a --assume-yes option to do-release-upgrade (the equivalent of «apt-get dist-upgrade --assume-yes») would be ideal. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1007543 Title: Release upgrading requiring user input baffles inexperienced users To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager-core/+bug/1007543/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
