subject:"\[Bug 1276072\] Re\: Language selection always falls back to English"

And maybe reinstall lightdm and lightdm-gtk-greeter too...

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

Another thought... Is your user ID 1000 or above?

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

Try to reinstall accountsservice:

sudo apt-get install --reinstall accountsservice

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

As a test, can you please create a user without forcing the uid become 
1000, and see if things work as expected for that user? I have a feeling
this may be it.

** Changed in: accountsservice (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Incomplete

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

2014-02-07 Thread A. Scheuer

About the message Greeter sets language fr_FR
in/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log , the next line is Writing
/home/scheuer/.dmrc and indeed ~/.dmrc contains both language and
session definitions.

I did the 3 reinstalls but did not have time to check.

About the ID, YES  Hell, yes, my lab sets me a uid  500, and I have
the same on my laptop to simplify (I may perhaps do otherwise).

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

2014-02-06 Thread A. Scheuer

Yes, you've got the point:  then language line is missing in
/var/lib/AccountsService/users/scheuer.

Moreover, /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log talks of a
/var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log, which says that directories
/usr/share/lightdm/sessions and /usr/share/lightdm/remote-sessions (this
is less important, I don't want to accept remote sessions) are missing.

I attach all that.  Thanks, I now only need either the syntax to correct
the file /var/lib/AccountsService/users/scheuer, or a way to get
AccountsService to do it (should I add a /usr/share/lightdm directory?).

** Attachment added: log_as.tbz
   
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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

2014-02-06 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson

Now this is strange. I see in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log the entry
Greeter sets language fr_FR, and it's not followed by any error
message. Still, as you say, Language is not set in
/var/lib/AccountsService/users/scheuer.

Furthermore, since Language isn't set in
/var/lib/AccountsService/users/scheuer, accountsservice should fall back
to the language in /etc/default/locale. So French (France) should be
pre-selected at login.

I wouldn't think that those warning messages in x-0-greeter.log are
related. (I have one of those warnings myself.)

OTOH I'm kind of lost. I tested with my own relatively clean Xubuntu
installation (it's Xubuntu you are using, right?), and it behaves as
expected in this respect.

You could of course try to manually edit
/var/lib/AccountsService/users/scheuer and add these lines:

Language=fr_FR
FormatsLocale=fr_FR.UTF-8

** Package changed: language-selector (Ubuntu) = accountsservice
(Ubuntu)

** Changed in: accountsservice (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = New

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

Well, after a few complementary tests, I found out that this is a
lightdm bug!

In fact, on one computer (using Xubuntu), the session's options, as
session's type (Unity, Gnome, xfce, openbox, ...) and language (!), are
not kept from one session to the next, as it used to be, and need to set
manually at each connection.  On the other computer (using Lubuntu),
only the type option seems to be kept, not the language which has to be
set manually...

I did not find any bug report about lightdm. Can this bug be changed, or
should I create a new one?

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

What makes you think that lightdm has anything to do with it? Actually,
lightdm is not involved at all when you set the language from Language
Support. L-S calls accountsservice, which both saves the language as an
accountsservice property and updates ~/.pam_environment. This should
work the same way in Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu.

If you have studied the ~/.dmrc file, I can tell you that lightdm does
not use those settings since accountsservice is installed.

This bug report can be changed to whichever package is affected, so
don't file a new report.

But before you change that, let's try to figure out what the real
problem is. It would be valuable if you could provide a detailed step-
by-step description with the steps you take and your observations.

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

Well, the point is that my ~/.pam_environment is modified (even if it is
write-protected, funny) when I connect through the session manager (which is
lightdm), and precisely at that moment (I did monitor this on tty1), but not
when I connect on console mode (on tty1, for example).
And even now that I found the way to correct the language setting (by selecting
it in the language selector of the session manager), I have to do it at each
connection (it is set back to English) - in fact, I found that the session's
type is correctly kept on both my computers, only the language is a problem.
Otherwise (if it let English), the two first lines of my ~/.pam_environment are
modified (to LANGUAGE=en \\ LANG=en_US.UTF-8). I add an archive with my current
versions of /etc/environment and ~/.pam_environment.

And, at last, even now that I corrected the language setting, I found
out that some translation are missing (update manager, synaptic, Gimp,
evince, emacs, calculator, ...). I think I did not have this problem
when I connected before (but I may be mistaken). The language setting
does not seems correct, in fact: gnome-language-selector still shows
English on top, and French at the bottom (and thus grey)... I however
have some (about a half) of the main menu items in French...

As a conclusion, it only partially works with my turnaround.

** Attachment added: envir.tbz

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

~/.pam_environment write protected?? That breaks everything. You should:

1. Ensure that you have read/write access to ~/.pam_environment, so the system 
can do its job with respect to the language settings.
2. Remove all those language/locale entries in /etc/environment - only the PATH 
line should be kept.

Can you please do so, and let us know if that fixes it.

The partial translation is probably explained by a typo in
~/.pam_environment: There is no fr-FR language code, should be
fr_FR. ( Language Support/accountsservice would never have made such a
typo. ;-) )

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

OK, you're right, the problems came from this typo. Everything is fine,
now (I did modified manually the ~/.pam_environment because the language
selection at the session opening did not correct it once - I don't know
why it works now).

I just insist on the fact that a write-protected ~/.pam_environment does
not break anything: it is modified whatsoever (I will try it again, but
I am quite confident on it).

And I still have to select the correct language at connection, it is not
kept from one session to the next.

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

I confirm both points (no problem with write-protected
~/.pam_environment, still have to select French).

Is there a way to set French as the default language (that is what I
wanted when I changed the /etc/environment, but it did not work)?

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

It's probably the write protection that prevents the system from
remembering the language. Why on earth do you want that?

* Make it editable.
* Use Language Support to change the language somehow, and instantly change it 
back.

That way accountsservice should save the language, and you don't need to
actively select it before logging in. Let us know if that doesn't help.

Use the Apply system-wide button in Language Support to make your
language the default language for the system. (That will save things in
/etc/default/locale.)

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

Sorry, but:

- write protection of ~/.pam_environment was just for testing, I made it
editable after but it did not change anything.

- the file /etc/default/locale is correct (I attach it), it does not
prevent the default language from the session manager to be English...

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

Did you change the language back and forth using Language Support as I
suggested?

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[Bug 1276072] Re: Language selection always falls back to English

Yes, several times, in two ways: change, log out, log in, change back, log out, 
log in, or  change, change back, log out, log in, ...
Always the same behaviour: English is the default!

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