[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
We are closing this bug report because it lacks the information we need to investigate the problem, as described in the previous comments. Please reopen it if you can give us the missing information, and don't hesitate to submit bug reports in the future. To reopen the bug report you can click on the current status, under the Status column, and change the Status back to "New". Thanks again! ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Invalid -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
The Ubuntu Kernel Team is planning to move to the 2.6.27 kernel for the upcoming Intrepid Ibex 8.10 release. As a result, the kernel team would appreciate it if you could please test this newer 2.6.27 Ubuntu kernel. There are one of two ways you should be able to test: 1) If you are comfortable installing packages on your own, the linux- image-2.6.27-* package is currently available for you to install and test. --or-- 2) The upcoming Alpha5 for Intrepid Ibex 8.10 will contain this newer 2.6.27 Ubuntu kernel. Alpha5 is set to be released Thursday Sept 4. Please watch http://www.ubuntu.com/testing for Alpha5 to be announced. You should then be able to test via a LiveCD. Please let us know immediately if this newer 2.6.27 kernel resolves the bug reported here or if the issue remains. More importantly, please open a new bug report for each new bug/regression introduced by the 2.6.27 kernel and tag the bug report with 'linux-2.6.27'. Also, please specifically note if the issue does or does not appear in the 2.6.26 kernel. Thanks again, we really appreicate your help and feedback. ** Tags added: cft-2.6.27 -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
Hi Tommy, If and when you get a chance to test, care to verify this is still an issue with the latest Hardy Heron 8.04 LTS release - http://www.ubuntu.com/download . Please let us know your results. Thanks. ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: None => linux -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
I have a Western Digital MyBook Premium that I bought at Target. The included cable destroyed the Firewire ports, and they sent me a new cable in the mail, so I exchanged the original drive at the store and have used only the cable they mailed me with that drive. My failures have occurred on OTHER enclosures (two newish MacAlly ones and a generic Oxford 911 one I bought at OtherWorld Computing years ago). After having the bizarre flakiness I have avoided using Firewire at all... all my new enclosures have high-speed USB which so far has been acceptable. Some of the old enclosures could very well have buggy firmware or something, but I was shocked to discover they would work great for awhile but dramatically fail on Feisty (looking very much dead) but completely resurrect on the Dapper setup. I have some business issues to attend to but soon I will try to establish a test setup so I can rule out the hardware. Thank you for your responses! -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
The test with different OSs would serve to find out whether the problem is influenced by the kernel or by the hardware (or both). The different types of failures that your logs show point towards flaky hardware. If so, then it could be the card, the cable, or the combination of PC (with all its internal noise) and cable and disk. BTW, I read that one large harddisk vendor sold series of FireWire disks with defective cables. I don't remember whether it was WD or Seagate or Maxtor. -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
sorry for the delayed response -- Unfortunately the Dapper system is totally different hardware from the newer system -- it's Dapper 6.06.1 running on a 266 Mhz PowerBook G3 and the newer system (since upgraded to Gutsy) is a 550 Mhz Pentium PC. If anything the Firewire cable may be LONGER on the working setup than on the one that fails, but on the Pentium PC I added a generic PCI USB/Firewire card, and on the laptop I use a PCMCIA Firewire card made by IBM. Not certain of either chipset. I like the suggestion of using live CDs to test. Unfortunately that won't work on the laptop, but if I can scrounge together the necessary parts I will attempt to set up an Intel PC that I can try different versions of Ubuntu and see if I can replicate the issue. I've held back one of the problematic drives so I'm not risking live data. P.S.: I gather very few people use FireWire hard drives on linux... if I can work up a test case, what would happen next? -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
As a side note: The ext2 and ext3 filesystems have an option to count the number of how often a partition was mounted and when it was last checked with fsck, and to enforce an fsck after it was mounted a certain times or checked more than a certain time ago. This option is configured per partition by means of the tune2fs command; see the -c and -i options of tune2fs in its manual page. Of course, like any large-scale filesystem manipulation, an fsck is a very bad idea to run on a system whose hardware or kernel don't work reliably. -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
So you have one machine with a 2.6.16 based kernel where it works and one with a 2.6.20 based kernel where it is unstable. What does "cat /sys/module/sbp2/parameters/serialize_io" say? If it is 1, then it's OK. Do you use a long cable or a front panel connector or something like that on the unstable PC? Do live CDs of Ubuntu Feisty and Dapper exist to easily try them out without installing them? Then you could try Feisty on the so far working machine and/or Dapper on the unstable machine. -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
As I mentioned, the Ubuntu box had been running all day without a reboot. The Firewire drive has been turned off most of the day. (I used it earlier, umounted the partitions, and turned it off. When I turned it on tonight, it would not mount.) I just rebooted the Ubuntu box (without powering it down) and when I turned on the Firewire drive all the partitions mounted correctly. -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
NOTE I'm following the directions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices but for the FAILING device, the udev log was empty, and there were no /dev/sd* devices, so I'm not attaching those empty files. ** Attachment added: "lshal from a FAILING Feisty test" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9250597/lshal.txt -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
Earlier today I used the "flaky" firewire drive and it worked fine. Tonight (hours later) it didn't come up. I logged out and back in but have NOT rebooted linux. I am attaching information for the same drive when it's FAILING. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ id uid=1000(twt) gid=1000(twt) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),112(netdev),113(lpadmin),115(powerdev),117(admin),1000(twt) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ id hal id: hal: No such user [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ id haldaemon uid=107(haldaemon) gid=114(haldaemon) groups=114(haldaemon),24(cdrom),25(floppy),46(plugdev),115(powerdev) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a Linux emonster 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Fri Aug 31 00:55:27 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ** Attachment added: "dmesg from a FAILING test of feisty" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9250590/dmesg.txt -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
** Attachment added: "gvm.log from a FAILING feisty test" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9250592/gvm.log -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
** Attachment added: "udev.log for a WORKING Feisty test" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9079214/udev.log -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
** Attachment added: "lshal from a WORKING Feisty test" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9079202/lshal.txt -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
** Attachment added: "dmesg from a WORKING test of feisty" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9079198/dmesg.txt -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
I recently discovered https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices so I figured I would add that information to the bug report. Strangely, TODAY the firewire drive is working fine in Feisty But I will add the information as listed with the note Information from a WORKING test: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ id uid=1000(twt) gid=1000(twt) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),112(netdev),113(lpadmin),115(powerdev),117(admin),1000(twt) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ id hal id: hal: No such user [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ id haldaemon uid=107(haldaemon) gid=114(haldaemon) groups=114(haldaemon),24(cdrom),25(floppy),46(plugdev),115(powerdev) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a Linux emonster 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ** Attachment added: "working firewire devices" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9079191/devices1.txt -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
** Attachment added: "gvm.log from a WORKING feisty test" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9079205/gvm.log -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 134396] Re: Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper
I just mounted the "new" drive (Western Digital MyBook Premium) using the USB port instead of firewire, and it shows no problem. I ran fsck and it said "no errors." So I'm again trying to get back up and running using my data, this time using USB. I'm copying the files now, and it's copying MUCH faster (maybe 50x faster) than it was running with Firewire on Feisty. -- Flaky firewire disks Fail Feisty but Do Dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134396 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
