[Bug 1641120] Re: too many kernels produce start loop

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

You filed a *desktop documentation* bug. Such bugs are reviewed by
volunteers who work with documentation. Your problem has nothing to do
with the desktop guide, right? So this is apparently not the right place
to complain.

If you want help to figure out how it's supposed to work, please seek
support. I posted a link to one of the possibilities you have.

If you want to raise a discussion on how Ubuntu deals with kernel
updates, then I'd recommend that you post a message to the ubuntu-devel-
discuss mailing list.

https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Thanks.

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Re: [Bug 1641120] Re: too many kernels produce start loop

[Jan Willem Nienhuys]

Hello,

I don't find that very satisfying.
When a user such as I meets a start loop, he doesn't know
at all what is the cause. As the computer won't start, there is
no way to find out (on internet) what's the matter.

Doug Smythies writes "It has been beat to death over years and years."
which I interpret to mean that the problem is very well known to insiders
who apparently don't give a damn about users who don't know
what kernels are, nor that old kernels are preserved rather than deleted.

JWN





2016-11-23 20:32 GMT+01:00 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <1641...@bugs.launchpad.net>:

> I'd say that help with how to remove redundant kernels is a support
> request, so @Jan: Please ask for help at e.g. .
>
> Closing.
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> Status in ubuntu-docs package in Ubuntu:
>   Invalid
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> Bug description:
>   After performing the last update, I followed the advice to restart the
> computer. Then it got into
>   a loop. After typing the correct password, the screen went 'ploink' and
> presented again an
>   empty password field. No failsafe option was present.
>
>   Upon getting help from an expert, this expert discovered that there were
> many old
>   linux kernels, all the way back to 2.6.23 en 3.13. This took a lot of
> time too. Something to do with
>   NVIDIA-drivers needing gcc. On starting all the init-ramdisks had to be
> update for all those kernel versions. (Says my expert.)
>
>   I have had several computers, and each time I copied the entire hard
>   disk of one to the next one.
>
>   The remedy was to remove all old kernel versions.
>
>   I consider this a bug. Installing a new kernel without removing old ones
> causes
>   apparently serious problems. Ordinary users who have no idea about what
> is "under the hood"
>   are seriously handicapped and not all of them have easy access to an
> expert who can fix things
>   in a couple of hours.
>
>   I have Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
>
>   apt-cache policy pkgname  yields no information.
>
>   I am not sure that have too many outdated linux kernels
>   is something in a specific package.
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[Bug 1641120] Re: too many kernels produce start loop

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

I'd say that help with how to remove redundant kernels is a support
request, so @Jan: Please ask for help at e.g. .

Closing.

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[Bug 1641120] Re: too many kernels produce start loop

[Doug Smythies]

I don't think this age old too many kernels problem, and the should old ones be 
auto-deleted or not, is specific to any particular package. It has been beat to 
death over years and years.
I'll just set this one to invalid. 

** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Invalid

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[Bug 1641120] Re: too many kernels produce start loop

[Chris Perry]

Hi Jan, thanks for reporting this bug. It's not a documentation bug
(package=ubuntu-docs). I'll check which package it should be assigned
to.

@Gunnar. Do you know which package it should be assigned to? It's a
problem during startup, so perhaps grub-common?

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