[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-07 Thread Kai-Chuan Hsieh
reply #30,

Agree, I think we should add GUI option for user to set it.

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[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-07 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Yeah the world is full of subtle connection problems. In this particular
case, dropping back to 8bpc would fix it. But I'm not sure how we would
detect that automatically, or if it's even the right thing to do in most
cases.

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[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-07 Thread Daniel van Vugt
I guess Windows is good at compatibility and defaulting to 8bpc is safe.
But unless we have a GUI that allows users to then select 10bpc,
defaulting to 8bpc is not something we should do.

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[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-07 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Yeah the world is full of subtle connection problems. In this particular
case, dropping back to 8bps would fix it. But I'm not sure how we would
detect that, or if it's even the right thing to do in most cases.

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[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-07 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
Regaring comment #26, I am using PX UH-1.2MX HDMI 2.0 certified Premium
High Speed cable so the cable's quality should not be a problem.

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[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-07 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
My monitor is EDID 1.3 and it has the same problem.

edid-decode (hex):

00 ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 41 0c 8f c1 bd 07 00 00 
08 1d 01 03 80 3c 22 78 2a 67 a1 a5 55 4d a2 27 
0e 50 54 bf ef 00 d1 c0 b3 00 95 00 81 80 81 40 
81 c0 01 01 01 01 4d d0 00 a0 f0 70 3e 80 30 20 
35 00 55 50 21 00 00 1a a3 66 00 a0 f0 70 1f 80 
30 20 35 00 55 50 21 00 00 1a 00 00 00 fc 00 50 
48 4c 20 32 37 36 45 38 56 0a 20 20 00 00 00 fd 
00 17 50 1e a0 3c 00 0a 20 20 20 20 20 20 01 72 

02 03 33 f1 4c 90 04 03 1f 13 01 12 5d 5e 5f 60 
61 23 09 07 07 83 01 00 00 6d 03 0c 00 10 00 38 
78 20 00 60 01 02 03 67 d8 5d c4 01 78 80 03 e3 
0f 00 0c 56 5e 00 a0 a0 a0 29 50 30 20 35 00 55 
50 21 00 00 1e 02 3a 80 18 71 38 2d 40 58 2c 45 
00 55 50 21 00 00 1e 01 1d 00 72 51 d0 1e 20 6e 
28 55 00 55 50 21 00 00 1e 4d 6c 80 a0 70 70 3e 
80 30 20 3a 00 55 50 21 00 00 1a 00 00 00 00 4e 



EDID version: 1.3
Manufacturer: PHL Model 49551 Serial Number 1981
Made in week 8 of 2019
Digital display
Maximum image size: 60 cm x 34 cm
Gamma: 2.20
DPMS levels: Off
RGB color display
First detailed timing is preferred timing
Color Characteristics
  Red:   0.6455, 0.3339
  Green: 0.3017, 0.6357
  Blue:  0.1542, 0.0566
  White: 0.3125, 0.3291
Established Timings I & II
720x40070.082 Hz   9:531.467 kHz  28.320 MHz (IBM)
640x48059.940 Hz   4:331.469 kHz  25.175 MHz (DMT)
640x48066.667 Hz   4:335.000 kHz  30.240 MHz (Apple)
640x48072.809 Hz   4:337.861 kHz  31.500 MHz (DMT)
640x48075.000 Hz   4:337.500 kHz  31.500 MHz (DMT)
800x60056.250 Hz   4:335.156 kHz  36.000 MHz (DMT)
800x60060.317 Hz   4:337.879 kHz  40.000 MHz (DMT)
800x60072.188 Hz   4:348.077 kHz  50.000 MHz (DMT)
800x60075.000 Hz   4:346.875 kHz  49.500 MHz (DMT)
832x62474.551 Hz   4:349.726 kHz  57.284 MHz (Apple)
   1024x76860.004 Hz   4:348.363 kHz  65.000 MHz (DMT)
   1024x76870.069 Hz   4:356.476 kHz  75.000 MHz (DMT)
   1024x76875.029 Hz   4:360.023 kHz  78.750 MHz (DMT)
   1280x1024   75.025 Hz   5:479.976 kHz 135.000 MHz (DMT)
Standard Timings
   1920x1080   60.000 Hz  16:967.500 kHz 148.500 MHz (DMT)
   1680x1050   59.954 Hz  16:10   65.290 kHz 146.250 MHz (DMT)
   1440x90059.887 Hz  16:10   55.935 kHz 106.500 MHz (DMT)
   1280x1024   60.020 Hz   5:463.981 kHz 108.000 MHz (DMT)
   1280x96060.000 Hz   4:360.000 kHz 108.000 MHz (DMT)
   1280x72060.000 Hz  16:945.000 kHz  74.250 MHz (DMT)
Detailed mode: Clock 533.250 MHz, 597 mm x 336 mm
   3840 3888 3920 4000 ( 48  32  80)
   2160 2163 2168  (  3   5  54)
   +hsync -vsync
   VertFreq: 59.997 Hz, HorFreq: 133.312 kHz
Detailed mode: Clock 262.750 MHz, 597 mm x 336 mm
   3840 3888 3920 4000 ( 48  32  80)
   2160 2163 2168 2191 (  3   5  23)
   +hsync -vsync
   VertFreq: 29.981 Hz, HorFreq: 65.688 kHz
Display Product Name: PHL 276E8V
Display Range Limits
  Monitor ranges (GTF): 23-80 Hz V, 30-160 kHz H, max dotclock 600 MHz
Has 1 extension block
Checksum: 0x72



CTA-861 Extension Block Revision 3
Underscans PC formats by default
Basic audio support
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4
Supports YCbCr 4:2:2
1 native detailed modes
47 bytes of CTA data blocks
  Video Data Block
 1920x1080   60.000 Hz  16:967.500 kHz 148.500 MHz (VIC  16, native)
 1280x72060.000 Hz  16:945.000 kHz  74.250 MHz (VIC   4)
  720x48059.940 Hz  16:931.469 kHz  27.000 MHz (VIC   3)
 1920x1080   50.000 Hz  16:956.250 kHz 148.500 MHz (VIC  31)
 1280x72050.000 Hz  16:937.500 kHz  74.250 MHz (VIC  19)
  640x48059.940 Hz   4:331.469 kHz  25.175 MHz (VIC   1)
  720x57650.000 Hz  16:931.250 kHz  27.000 MHz (VIC  18)
 3840x2160   24.000 Hz  16:954.000 kHz 297.000 MHz (VIC  93)
 3840x2160   25.000 Hz  16:956.250 kHz 297.000 MHz (VIC  94)
 3840x2160   30.000 Hz  16:967.500 kHz 297.000 MHz (VIC  95)
 3840x2160   50.000 Hz  16:9   112.500 kHz 594.000 MHz (VIC  96)
 3840x2160   60.000 Hz  16:9   135.000 kHz 594.000 MHz (VIC  97)
  Audio Data Block
Linear PCM, max channels 2
  Supported sample rates (kHz): 48 44.1 32
  Supported sample sizes (bits): 24 20 16
  Speaker Allocation Data Block
Speaker map:
  FL/FR - Front Left/Right
  Vendor-Specific Data Block, OUI 0x000c03 (HDMI)
Source physical address 1.0.0.0
DC_36bit
DC_30bit
DC_Y444
Maximum TMDS clock: 600 MHz
Extended HDMI video details:
  HDMI VICs:
 3840x2160   30.000 Hz  16:967.500 kHz 297.000 MHz (HDMI VIC 1)
 3840x2160   25.000 Hz  16:956.250 kHz 297.000 MHz (HDMI VIC 2)
 3840x2160   24.000 Hz  16:954.000 kHz 297.000 MHz (HDMI VIC 3)
  Vendor-Specific Data Block, OUI 0xc45dd8 (HDMI Forum)
Version: 1
Maximum TMDS Character Rate: 600 MHz
SCDC Pres

[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-07 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Thanks that does seem to be an old EDID v1.3 with no defined bit depth.
But there are some vendor-specific blocks there that do advertise
support for 10bpc and 12bpc.

In this case I think it's correct to try and default to 10bpc or 12bpc.
It's probably only the cable or dongle letting it down. I wonder if such
limited cable bandwidth is something we can detect in software?...

Imagine (or please test) what a newer monitor with an EDID v1.4 would
do. If that reported more definite support for 10bpc then it would be
even more correct to try and default to 10bpc. But we would also need
more intelligent logic (somewhere) that detects when the desired
bandwidth isn't being achieved due to cable or dongle problems.

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[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-06 Thread Kai-Chuan Hsieh
Upload the problem edid.

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[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-06 Thread Daniel van Vugt
I forgot a display signal doesn't include any alpha channel, so yeah 8
bpc will require less bandwidth than 10 bpc.

The maximum capability of the monitor should be advertised in its EDID.
At least modern monitors do. You can check it using the 'edid-decode'
command and grepping for 'bits per primary'. What gets returned?

Can you share the EDID of the troublesome display?

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[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-06 Thread Kai-Chuan Hsieh
** Description changed:

  The bug is originated from,
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/somerville/+bug/1887915/
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/somerville/+bug/1886778
  
  It has some problem when user connect to external 4K monitor with refresh 
rate 60.
  The problem can be solved by lower the bpc, or lower the refresh rate.
  
  `xrandr --output DP-3 --set "max bpc" 8`
  
  Would like to open this bug to open discussion for enhancing user experience.
  ---
  ProblemType: Bug
  ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.4
  Architecture: amd64
  BootLog: Error: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/log/boot.log'
  CasperMD5CheckResult: skip
  CompositorRunning: None
  CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME
  DistUpgraded: Fresh install
  DistributionChannelDescriptor:
   # This is the distribution channel descriptor for the OEM CDs
   # For more information see 
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributionChannelDescriptor
   canonical-oem-somerville-focal-amd64-20200502-85+fossa-samwell-tgl+X42
  DistroCodename: focal
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04
  DistroVariant: ubuntu
  DkmsStatus: nvidia, 440.100, 5.6.0-1021-oem, x86_64: installed
  ExtraDebuggingInterest: Yes
  GraphicsCard:
   Intel Corporation Device [8086:9a49] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
     Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:09fc]
     Subsystem: Dell GP107M [GeForce MX350] [1028:09fc]
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-08-07 (0 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 20.04 "Focal" - Build amd64 LIVE Binary 
20200502-05:58
- MachineType: Dell Inc. Vostro 5301
  Package: xorg 1:7.7+19ubuntu14 [origin: unknown]
  PackageArchitecture: amd64
  ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.6.0-1021-oem 
root=UUID=41be2253-410a-4ef7-a096-4193a58efdbd ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.6.0-1021.21-oem 5.6.19
  Tags: third-party-packages focal ubuntu
  Uname: Linux 5.6.0-1021-oem x86_64
  UnreportableReason: This is not an official Ubuntu package. Please remove any 
third party package and try again.
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
  UserGroups: adm cdrom dip lpadmin plugdev sambashare sudo
  _MarkForUpload: True
  version.compiz: compiz N/A
  version.libdrm2: libdrm2 2.4.101-2
  version.libgl1-mesa-dri: libgl1-mesa-dri 20.0.8-0ubuntu1~20.04.1
  version.libgl1-mesa-glx: libgl1-mesa-glx N/A
  version.xserver-xorg-core: xserver-xorg-core 2:1.20.8-2ubuntu2.2
  version.xserver-xorg-input-evdev: xserver-xorg-input-evdev N/A
  version.xserver-xorg-video-ati: xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:19.1.0-1
  version.xserver-xorg-video-intel: xserver-xorg-video-intel 
2:2.99.917+git20200226-1
  version.xserver-xorg-video-nouveau: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.16-1

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[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-06 Thread Kai-Chuan Hsieh
reply #20

yes, Daniel.
Originally, the display would like to use 10 bpc. but it is failed with some 
dongle.
However, we found that, it uses 8bit color depth on Windows. We wonder if 
Windows has done some magic for enhancing compatibilty. Maybe we can also 
discuss if we can have some implementation like export the bpc selection to 
gnome-control-center for user.

Otherwise, user can just found that it works on Windows but failed on
Ubuntu.

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[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-06 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Note also that if you did have a machine that required:

  xrandr --output DP-3 --set "max bpc" 8

on a 4K 60Hz display then that may indicate a bandwidth problem. Maybe a
limitation of the cable. Does a max bpc of 10 also work? What values
don't work?

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[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-06 Thread Daniel van Vugt
There doesn't seem to be any external monitor connected to this machine,
or any 'DP-3' connector.

Please attach 'xrandr --verbose' info with a monitor connected showing
the problem, or please open a new bug from the affected machine.

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[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-06 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
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[Bug 1890772] Re: Some external 4K monitor is not working properly

2020-08-06 Thread Kai-Chuan Hsieh
apport information

** Tags added: apport-collected focal third-party-packages ubuntu

** Description changed:

  The bug is originated from,
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/somerville/+bug/1887915/
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/somerville/+bug/1886778
  
  It has some problem when user connect to external 4K monitor with refresh 
rate 60.
  The problem can be solved by lower the bpc, or lower the refresh rate.
  
  `xrandr --output DP-3 --set "max bpc" 8`
  
- Would like to open this bug to open discussion for enhancing user
- experience.
+ Would like to open this bug to open discussion for enhancing user experience.
+ --- 
+ ProblemType: Bug
+ ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.4
+ Architecture: amd64
+ BootLog: Error: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/log/boot.log'
+ CasperMD5CheckResult: skip
+ CompositorRunning: None
+ CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME
+ DistUpgraded: Fresh install
+ DistributionChannelDescriptor:
+  # This is the distribution channel descriptor for the OEM CDs
+  # For more information see 
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributionChannelDescriptor
+  canonical-oem-somerville-focal-amd64-20200502-85+fossa-samwell-tgl+X42
+ DistroCodename: focal
+ DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04
+ DistroVariant: ubuntu
+ DkmsStatus: nvidia, 440.100, 5.6.0-1021-oem, x86_64: installed
+ ExtraDebuggingInterest: Yes
+ GraphicsCard:
+  Intel Corporation Device [8086:9a49] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
+Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:09fc]
+Subsystem: Dell GP107M [GeForce MX350] [1028:09fc]
+ InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-08-07 (0 days ago)
+ InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 20.04 "Focal" - Build amd64 LIVE Binary 
20200502-05:58
+ MachineType: Dell Inc. Vostro 5301
+ Package: xorg 1:7.7+19ubuntu14 [origin: unknown]
+ PackageArchitecture: amd64
+ ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.6.0-1021-oem 
root=UUID=41be2253-410a-4ef7-a096-4193a58efdbd ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
+ ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.6.0-1021.21-oem 5.6.19
+ Tags: third-party-packages focal ubuntu
+ Uname: Linux 5.6.0-1021-oem x86_64
+ UnreportableReason: This is not an official Ubuntu package. Please remove any 
third party package and try again.
+ UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
+ UserGroups: adm cdrom dip lpadmin plugdev sambashare sudo
+ _MarkForUpload: True
+ dmi.bios.date: 08/03/2020
+ dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
+ dmi.bios.version: 0.6.0
+ dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
+ dmi.chassis.type: 10
+ dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
+ dmi.modalias: 
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+ dmi.product.family: Vostro
+ dmi.product.name: Vostro 5301
+ dmi.product.sku: 09FC
+ dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc.
+ version.compiz: compiz N/A
+ version.libdrm2: libdrm2 2.4.101-2
+ version.libgl1-mesa-dri: libgl1-mesa-dri 20.0.8-0ubuntu1~20.04.1
+ version.libgl1-mesa-glx: libgl1-mesa-glx N/A
+ version.xserver-xorg-core: xserver-xorg-core 2:1.20.8-2ubuntu2.2
+ version.xserver-xorg-input-evdev: xserver-xorg-input-evdev N/A
+ version.xserver-xorg-video-ati: xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:19.1.0-1
+ version.xserver-xorg-video-intel: xserver-xorg-video-intel 
2:2.99.917+git20200226-1
+ version.xserver-xorg-video-nouveau: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.16-1

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