[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Apparently the problem is fixed with an ALSA upgrade http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/10/29/upgrade-alsa-1-0-21-on- ubuntu-karmic-koala-9-10/. Ihaven't tried this yet because I don't want to touch my pulseaudio installation. Waiting for an official release via Synaptic. Is http://kcat.strangesoft.net/openal-releases/openal- soft-1.5.304.tar.bz2 recommended fix then? -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Yes, openal-soft fixed this horrible sound, but alsa has not updates in karmic-proposed . -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
I also experience this problem with flightgear and karmic koala 9.10 ubuntu. This must be integrated with distro ! -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
I'm experiencing the same issues with crackling sound in FlightGear using Karmic, I have an Intel HDA-based on-board chip for sound. I've seen the same issue in most other games using OpenAL that I've tried as well, so I doubt it's just a problem with FlightGear in Karmic. I think this needs to be re-examined. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
OpenAL Soft 1.10 is just released -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
So is this fixed for good? Me (and others) have sound problems in Jaunty too. Namely supertuxkart and other games sound terrible and have performance issues as well. Could this be related to this bug? The games used to work in Intrepid. Bug 385013: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/385013 Forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1125214 I would appreciate your comments, Mikko -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
OpenAL Soft is probably not where your problem lies, no. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
OpenAL Soft is probably not where your problem lies, no. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
openal-soft (1:1.3.253-4ubuntu1) intrepid; urgency=low [ Andres Mejia ] * Exclude libasound2-dev dependency for kfreebsd and hurd kernels. * Bumped to Standards-Version 3.8.0 (no changes required). * Add watch file. [ Reinhard Tartler ] * reenable building of libopenal-dev. * prerelease upload to intrepid. -- Reinhard Tartler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:32:20 +0200 ** Changed in: openal (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Fix Released -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Note that this is now the latest version: http://kcat.strangesoft.net /openal-releases/openal-soft-1.5.304.tar.bz2 ** Attachment removed: source for the latest OpenAL Soft release http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12166337/openal-soft-1.3.253.tar.bz2 -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
** Changed in: openal (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Incomplete -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Hi, Do you confirm that Intrepid still contains broken package? When doing a rdepends on libopenal1, I get a lot of games: (intrepid)[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/temp/u2nl-1.3$ apt-cache rdepends libopenal1 libopenal1 Reverse Depends: tremulous mplayer-nogui mplayer glest funguloids xpilot-ng-client-x11 xpilot-ng-client-sdl warzone2100 vegastrike trigger torcs supertuxkart supertux simgear1.0.0 scorched3d python-soya python-openal openarena libsfml-audio1 libosgal1 libopenal1-dbg libopenal-dev libalut0 flightgear chromium btanks blender antigravitaattori So it seems that this bug can be close with Intrepid. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
** Changed in: openal (Debian) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
** Changed in: openal (Debian) Status: New = Fix Committed -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Are there any news on this from the Debian and/or Ubuntu side? Intrepid still contains the broken packages... -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
alfredio wrote: Update: Cristian, I managed to build your packages locally, by using dget and debuild. Still I was not able to sign them with your private key ;-) OpenAL Soft is up, hacked and running right now :-D Great to know my worked helped somebody. I personally, don't like my solution and I just pushed it this way in hope that it might get into Hardy. I would rather use the package from the previous post, then override openal0a's libopenal.so.0.0.0 with a symlink to libopenal.so.1. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Dear Cristian KLEIN, thank you for posting the gross library hack. I know it's not the Debian/Ubuntu way, but I could cope with it, as long as OpenAL Soft is not officially available through Debian/Ubuntu package system. Unfortunately, I'm using the also-supported amd64 version of Ubuntu. Could you kindly create packages for this flavour too? If you cannot compile for amd64, please instruct me how to generate the deb packages for you, I'll be glad to help. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Update: Cristian, I managed to build your packages locally, by using dget and debuild. Still I was not able to sign them with your private key ;-) OpenAL Soft is up, hacked and running right now :-D -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
The openal-soft packages have been reuploaded to mentors.debian.net. This adds a debug package and would also mean a direct upload to sid. - dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/o/openal-soft/openal-soft_1.3.253-1.dsc -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Just so you know, this is being worked on in Debian. I'm waiting for someone to upload the openal-soft packages to the archive. You can try them out yourself. - dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/o/openal-soft/openal-soft_1.3.253-1~experimental0.dsc Since the openal SI upstream are considering the SI deprecated in favor of OpenAL Soft, the openal-soft packages will probably end up in Debian unstable soon afterwards. http://opensource.creative.com/pipermail/openal-devel/2007-December/004977.html http://opensource.creative.com/pipermail/openal/2008-February/010981.html http://opensource.creative.com/pipermail/openal/2008-March/011019.html http://opensource.creative.com/pipermail/openal/2008-April/011073.html Either way, Ubuntu could sync from experimental or unstable. Here's a few threads which have discussions about the openal-soft packages. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-games/2008/04/msg00158.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-games/2008/05/msg00020.html -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Andres Mejia wrote: Just so you know, this is being worked on in Debian. I'm waiting for someone to upload the openal-soft packages to the archive. You can try them out yourself. - dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/o/openal-soft/openal-soft_1.3.253-1~experimental0.dsc That's great news. I tested the above mentioned package and it works great! -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
** Changed in: openal (Debian) Status: Unknown = New -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Cristian KLEIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please do. Nobody responded to my mail to pkg-games-devel@ since 25 march. I had a private talk about this with a member of the games team. The decision is not that easy, so nobody had enough courage up to now to talk about this in public, but there is action behind the scenes... -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Reinhard Tartler wrote: Cristian KLEIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please do. Nobody responded to my mail to pkg-games-devel@ since 25 march. I had a private talk about this with a member of the games team. The decision is not that easy, so nobody had enough courage up to now to talk about this in public, but there is action behind the scenes... „The decision is not that easy” is a lame excuse IMHO. Why exactly do they have „unstable” and „experimental” if not to test decisions. If everybody just cowardly rejects openal-soft, then I foresee the following: 1) OpenAL-soft upstream won't get enough attention, upstream won't maintain it anymore. 2) Linux won't stand a chance as a gaming platform, due to bad 3D sound libraries. I don't know what Canonical's future plans are, but if they want to gain market share, they will have to make Ubuntu a more attractive gaming platform. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
That's the truth right there ** Attachment added: unnamed http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12946785/unnamed -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #473128 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=473128 ** Also affects: openal (Debian) via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=473128 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Tags added: needs-packaging -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Unsubscribing motu-release and setting back to confirmed since this is no longer an FFe for Hardy. ** Changed in: openal (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Cristian KLEIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why exactly do they have „unstable” and „experimental” if not to test decisions. If everybody just cowardly rejects openal-soft Nobody rejects openal-soft. It will be included in ubuntu, but it is way to late for hardy. Since we are working tightly together with debian here, we'll publish the package there first. See the ubuntu developer documentation for details on our processes. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 ** Changed in: openal (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: openal (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
N'ack for Hardy. As suggested please work through Debian and Ubuntu will get it for Ibex automatically. ** Changed in: openal (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
This is the kind of decision that makes people go back to Windows. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
People often say things like that thinking it will motivate developers to do something. In truth it's rather more likely to have the opposite effect. Each Ubuntu release requires a balance between new features and risk. We are currently dealing with an unfortunate volume of late toolchain and library changes. We are already overloaded and unable to take on more. I encourage you to take your passion to Debian and get it done there so both distros benifit. We can facilitate that if needed. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Scott Kitterman wrote: I encourage you to take your passion to Debian and get it done there so both distros benifit. We can facilitate that if needed. Please do. Nobody responded to my mail to pkg-games-devel@ since 25 march. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Cristian KLEIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know it is a gross hack, but I was 100% sure that ubuntu-release would not like to change to a new package this late in the release cycle. Therefore, I have resorted to this solution which would: So how about providing it in a PPA? d) hopefully make the shift to the new package more acceptable for the next Ubuntu release Please work in/with the Debian Games Team to get OpenAL Soft accepted into debian. I don't think we should nor need diverge with Debian here. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
StefanPotyra wrote: Ok, I've taken a look at the package now. I'm inclined to reject this bug for the following reasons: Modifying openal to depend on the openal library package or openal-soft is a gross hack which contradicts everything library packages should adhere to. The only way to make packages use of the openal-soft library is hence to rebuild these against it. And I'm not really in favour of doing this that late in the cycle. However only having the new library in hardy, with no package using it seems not to provide anything useful to me. Hello, I know it is a gross hack, but I was 100% sure that ubuntu-release would not like to change to a new package this late in the release cycle. Therefore, I have resorted to this solution which would: a) basically not default to the not-so-tested package in Hardy b) would allow beginners to have proper openal support in Hardy using a single command c) would allow more people to test the new package d) hopefully make the shift to the new package more acceptable for the next Ubuntu release -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
dear motu-release team, I didn't check that myself thourougly, but contributors in this bug have tested the new openal and claim that it works way better than the old openal version. I'm asking for your opinion here. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
What use would our opinion be for an application in main? -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Yes, looks like you'll need input from ubuntu-release instead ;). Side note, didn't openal sometimes silently introduce ABI breakage? Would be worth checking imho. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
(unsubscribing motu-release) -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
oh, indeed, I forgot that openal is in main. (OTR, I think it shouldn't be, but anyways). I think it is way to late to replace a library in main at this point of the cycle. I'd furthermore suggest to get it updated in debian first. there is not much point in creating that diversion here, since the debian games team is open for suggestions and help. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Resubscribing motu-release, as this is about including a new package, not updating the existing one. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Ok, I've taken a look at the package now. I'm inclined to reject this bug for the following reasons: Modifying openal to depend on the openal library package or openal-soft is a gross hack which contradicts everything library packages should adhere to. The only way to make packages use of the openal-soft library is hence to rebuild these against it. And I'm not really in favour of doing this that late in the cycle. However only having the new library in hardy, with no package using it seems not to provide anything useful to me. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Cristian KLEIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I created a new package called libopenal0a-soft, with the latest version of OpenAL. I renamed the old package libopenal0a to libopenal0a- creative, and created a metapackage libopenal0a which depends on either one of them. Thus, no Ubuntu packages have to be recompiled. Ah, thanks for that, I was asking earlier for someone to do that. The following package currently link against libopenal0a (not counting possible indirect dependencies): tremulous mplayer-nogui mplayer glest funguloids xpilot-ng-client-x11 xpilot-ng-client-sdl warzone2100 vegastrike trigger torcs supertuxkart supertux scorched3d python-soya python-openal openarena libosgal1 libhugs-openal-bundled libcoin40c2 flightgear chromium btanks boson antigravitaattori rss-glx I'd really like to see a test with schorced3d (which has a history with openal in the past), openarena and chromium. I see if I can allocate some time this weekend for this. If someone comes to that sooner, go for it! -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Reinhard Tartler wrote: Cristian KLEIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I created a new package called libopenal0a-soft, with the latest version of OpenAL. I renamed the old package libopenal0a to libopenal0a- creative, and created a metapackage libopenal0a which depends on either one of them. Thus, no Ubuntu packages have to be recompiled. Ah, thanks for that, I was asking earlier for someone to do that. The following package currently link against libopenal0a (not counting possible indirect dependencies): tremulous mplayer-nogui mplayer glest funguloids xpilot-ng-client-x11 xpilot-ng-client-sdl warzone2100 vegastrike trigger torcs supertuxkart supertux scorched3d python-soya python-openal openarena libosgal1 libhugs-openal-bundled libcoin40c2 flightgear chromium btanks boson antigravitaattori rss-glx I'd really like to see a test with schorced3d (which has a history with openal in the past), openarena and chromium. I tested openarena, chromium and supertux, they definitely work better with the openal-soft version. I see if I can allocate some time this weekend for this. If someone comes to that sooner, go for it! -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
There's no need to test any more games, they all use the same version and the difference is obvious. Just replace it already. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
Anybody cares to test my version of the solution? I created a new package called libopenal0a-soft, with the latest version of OpenAL. I renamed the old package libopenal0a to libopenal0a- creative, and created a metapackage libopenal0a which depends on either one of them. Thus, no Ubuntu packages have to be recompiled. The debs can be downloaded from http://cristiklein.c7obs.net/public/kiwi/openal/. There is also a textfile http://cristiklein.c7obs.net/public/kiwi/openal/test- openal.txt, which shows how to download / install / test (using supertux) both versions (creative and soft). You should notice that the first invocation of supertux has croppy sound, while the second one does not. Thanks. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
I also advocate this change. Both supertux and FreeSpace 2 Open sound cracky with the Ubuntu-shipped version. Then compiling and using OpenAL Soft, sound works perfectly. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
I agree with this as well, at the moment many games make horrible crackly sound on anything but Creative Labs sound cards, at the moment there are two workarounds: - Get a Creative sound card (But not the X-Fi which isn't Linux compatible yet) - Manually compile the OpenAL software drivers, and stick with your previous sound card OpenAL has been broken like this for a few releases of Ubuntu now, it's been like this far too long, com'on let's fix this issue :) -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
** Attachment added: source for the latest OpenAL Soft release http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12166337/openal-soft-1.3.253.tar.bz2 -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 194919] Re: libopenal needs replacement
I agree, OpenAL soft will officially replace the outdated and buggy sample implementation. Unlike the SI, OpenAL soft actually conforms to the OpenAL specs. Some maintainer *please* look into that, it will be a shame to ship Hardy with so obviously and horribly broken OpenAL support. -- libopenal needs replacement https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/194919 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
