[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
Upgrades are supposed to adjust any needed rules, yes; unfortunately since you've done the reinstall, and the problem has gone away, we'll be unable to debug this further to understand what went wrong. I can only assume you had stale or hand-written udev rules in there that were causing problems. ** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Invalid -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
Even with the USB devices unplugged, the longest timeout is still a USB device ... add /devices/pci:00/:00:1a.0/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1-2.1:1.0/usb_endpoint/usbdev1.4_ep02 (usb_endpoint) 0.07 63.16 63.09 add /devices/pci:00/:00:1a.0/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1-2.1:1.0/usb_endpoint/usbdev1.4_ep81 (usb_endpoint) 0.07 63.16 63.09 add /devices/pci:00/:00:1a.0/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1-2.1:1.0/usb_endpoint/usbdev1.4_ep82 (usb_endpoint) 0.07 63.16 63.09 -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
Hrm. Well, I did have some rules that were from early 2007 they may have been from an old installation of Edgy. I know that I did have some custom rules in there, but even removing them didn't fix it. I did install some software packages from source as well, and some of those may have created rules... AFAIK it is something that I did anyways, and considering that we don't have too many people with this issue (other than the 70-persistent-net.rules), it's probably nothing to worry about. I suppose I could re-reinstall, but I need my computer for work and school... and I really needed the bug fixed. Unfortunately, I forgot to save my old rules before reinstalling... Oh well, thanks for the help! -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
... As it goes, I just reinstalled the Hardy prerelease from scratch and guess what--the bug's gone. I suppose this means that I did have a stray rule somewhere. Shouldn't regenerating the rules be part of the upgrade procedure? -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
Thanks! The file is attached. ** Attachment added: udev log http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13594708/udev -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
Thanks for the bug report. 90s delays in udev are the result of a timeout, usually caused by non- responding hardware or an error in the rules we process. Could you attach the /var/log/udev file from your system, this should allow us to determine what's causing the problem and whether it's a bug or something about your system that needs to be worked around. ** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium Status: New = Incomplete -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
Thanks for the log. Could you try unplugging the USB hub and then rebooting, attaching the udev log and bootchart from that boot for comparison -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
AFAIK that bootchart is without the USB hooked up, but I'm not sure, so I'll make two. -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
** Attachment added: hardy-20080421-3-with-usb.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13598870/hardy-20080421-3-with-usb.png -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
** Attachment added: hardy-20080421-4-without-usb.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13598875/hardy-20080421-4-without-usb.png -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
** Attachment added: udev-without-usb http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13598878/udev-without-usb -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
** Attachment added: udev-with-usb http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13598883/udev-with-usb -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
Something else that may help you diagnose the issue is that until a recent update, lshw hung on PCI (sysfs) -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
One more question... would it be possible to rebuild the rules in /etc/udev/rules.d/ ? I've tried to rename the directory and re-install udev, but the rules that dpkg -S claims belong to udev are not placed in the directory... -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
After some more research, I can confirm that this is a udev bug, or at least strongly related to udev... The script responsible for Loading hardware drivers is /etc/init.d/udev... And the lines it hangs on begins at line 61. The command udevadm trigger is what causes the long wait. --snip-- log_begin_msg Loading hardware drivers... /sbin/udevadm trigger if /sbin/udevadm settle; then log_end_msg 0 else log_end_msg $? fi --snip-- Changing those lines to: --snip-- log_begin_msg Loading hardware drivers... /sbin/udevadm trigger log_end_msg 0 #if /sbin/udevadm settle; then #log_end_msg 0 #else #log_end_msg $? #fi --snip-- Alleviates the problem and reduces boot time by approx. 90 seconds (60 seconds vs. 150 seconds) But, is backgrounding this and letting the other scripts run wise? AFAIK, the only modules autoloaded on my system are iwl3945, agpgart, nvidia, and usb-storage and some others... and agpgart and nvidia are loaded before X starts (they are the first to be loaded)... -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
Here it doesnt go beyond loading hardware drivers at all and if i do a crtl+alt+dell it shows loading hardware drivers as failed, AMD64 2800+ 1GB RAM nVidia 7600GS VIA K8M890 Motherboard. Booting without any usb devices connected. -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
Probably a different bug. Some updates, backgrounding udevadm trigger helps, but then some drivers aren't loaded before X starts and my touchpad doesn't have the nice scroll features such. I really hope we can get some help on this before Hardy is released-- this is quite an annoying bug, it takes more than 2 minutes and 30 seconds just to get to a usable login screen. -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers
Tried unplugging USB hub w/ said devices... no difference. A bootchart indicates that this may be a udev problem though... (see attachment) ** Attachment added: hardy-20080418-1.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13552465/hardy-20080418-1.png -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
