[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
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[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
This bug was fixed in the package mail-notification - 5.4.dfsg.1-2.4ubuntu3 --- mail-notification (5.4.dfsg.1-2.4ubuntu3) oneiric; urgency=low * SSL enabled (LP: #44335). New Debian license interpretation: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=286672#68 * debian/patches/looser-gconf-check.patch: Drop default checks when default values don't apply (LP: #845990). -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson ubu...@gunnar.cc Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:11:28 +0200 ** Changed in: mail-notification (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 Title: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mail-notification/+bug/44335/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
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[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
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[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
** Changed in: mail-notification (Debian) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released ** Changed in: mail-notification Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 Title: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mail-notification/+bug/44335/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
** Changed in: mail-notification (Debian) Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed ** Changed in: mail-notification Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 Title: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mail-notification/+bug/44335/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
** Changed in: mail-notification (Debian) Status: Won't Fix = Confirmed ** Changed in: mail-notification Status: Won't Fix = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 Title: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mail-notification/+bug/44335/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
I would like to add that as much as I'd like to use mail-notification, I also regard it as completely useless unitl SSL/TLS support has been added. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 Title: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Hold on, Mail Notification might well be a registered trademark in a particular jurisdiction, the rules vary widely as to what is allowed as a TM and what is not. If the original author does have a point on this, we should respect it. Mark -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Ok so, change the name and lets get this sorted once and for all. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Comment #72 by Jean-Yves Lefort on 2008-10-05: I own the Mail Notification trademark. Shipping a modified MN version that I have explicitly been disagreeing with is called trademark infringement. If someone wants to legally distribute such a MN version, he has to change the name of the application. Aside from everything else, please disregard this particular nonsense. It might be preferable to not take the same name to preclude misunderstandings or out of respect, but there is no such thing as trademark protection of generic names. If you want to protect your trademark, choose a distinctive name. Anyone interested, look up trademark distinctiveness, descriptive marks, and generic marks. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
** Description changed: The SSL/TLS options for IMAP and POP3 are greyed out in preferences. - Only the standard method is available. ldd says that mail-notification - does use gnutls (is it just for SASL then?). Upstream site mentions - openssl instead of gnutls. + Only the “standard” method is available. + + According to Debian (http://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html), the + license of mail-notification is incompatible with the license of OpenSSL + and hence Debian ships mail-notification packages with SSL support + disabled. + + Packages for Ubuntu with mail-notification compiled with SSL support are available from this PPA: + https://launchpad.net/~mail-notification-ssl/+archive/ppa -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Thanks David ... I didn't feel up to compiling the source just yet so your work is appreciated :-) -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
David, thanks for creating this ppa! It has worked well so far. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
This bug may well remain open for another couple of years. In the meantime, I've created a PPA with mail-notification as conceived by its upstream author, i.e. with SSL enabled. https://launchpad.net/~mail-notification-ssl/+archive/ppa Packages for all current releases (Hardy through Lucid) are available. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Shipping this package without builtin ssl support is wrong whatever the reason, so please: - try and find a way to accomodate ubuntu rules with the author's opinions and ship a package with ssl support - build a package with ssl support and ship it in multiverse - remove the package entirely from ubuntu repositories and let the users go to the author homepage to get it Having this bug still opened after 3 years of arguing is a shame for both the distributor and the author. Is not Ubuntu the distribution where things just works? -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
The important step for karmic is to remove libeel2-dev from the list of dependencies as well as to apply bug #443406. ** Attachment added: Patches, Source and Binaries for jaunty and karmic. http://launchpadlibrarian.net/34203028/secure-mail-notification-5.4.dfsg.1ubuntu3.zip ** Attachment removed: mail notification with gnutls patch bundle (binary, source and patch files) http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33907605/secure-mail-notification-5.4.dfsg.1ubuntu3.zip -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
The only workaround for Karmic I have found so far is to compile mail- notification (with SSL) in Jaunty and use this package for Karmic. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
** Attachment removed: Add gnutls support to mail notification 5.4 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14691704/mail-notification-add-gnutls.diff ** Attachment removed: Add gnutls support to mail notification 5.4 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14697369/diff.txt -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Hi, more than a year ago I provided a patch for mail notification to work with gnutls hoping that this would speedup either distribution with openssl or gnutls enabled. At that time, creating a gnutls enabled mail notification package failed due to a lack of time of the involved persons. As it looks to me that distributing mail notification with openssl support enabled will still take some more time before it happens, I've now updated the mail notification 5.4 ubuntu jaunty source package to come with gnutls enabled. Though, the upstream author mentioned in comment 64 that he would dislike such a package being named mail notification. That's why I renamed the package to secure mail notification. As soon as debian and ubuntu decide to distribute mail notification with openssl support enabled, secure mail notification will become obsolete. For those who cannot await secure mail notification being in the universe repository, I'm uploading a signed binary (jaunty x86) and the source package. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
** Attachment added: mail notification with gnutls patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33870642/secure-mail-notification_5.4.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2_i386.deb -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
** Attachment added: mail notification with gnutls patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33870687/secure-mail-notification-evolution_5.4.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2_i386.deb -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
** Attachment added: mail notification with gnutls patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33870922/secure-mail-notification_5.4.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2_source.changes -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
** Attachment added: mail notification with gnutls patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33870963/secure-mail-notification_5.4.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2.dsc -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
** Attachment added: mail notification with gnutls patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33870976/secure-mail-notification_5.4.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2.tar.gz -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
** Attachment added: mail notification with gnutls patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33870990/secure-mail-notification_5.4.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2_i386.changes -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
comment #106 : main application binary comment #107: evolution plugin binary comment #108: changelog for binaries comment #109: source description comment #110: source to extract comment #111: changelog for source -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
** Attachment removed: diff-gob.diff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14691745/diff-gob.diff ** Attachment removed: Add gnutls support to mail notification 5.4 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14697483/diff.txt ** Attachment removed: mail notification with gnutls patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33870642/secure-mail-notification_5.4.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2_i386.deb ** Attachment removed: mail notification with gnutls patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33870922/secure-mail-notification_5.4.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2_source.changes ** Attachment removed: mail notification with gnutls patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33870963/secure-mail-notification_5.4.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2.dsc -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
** Attachment removed: mail notification with gnutls patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33870976/secure-mail-notification_5.4.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2.tar.gz ** Attachment removed: mail notification with gnutls patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33870990/secure-mail-notification_5.4.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2_i386.changes ** Attachment removed: mail notification with gnutls patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33870687/secure-mail-notification-evolution_5.4.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2_i386.deb -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Cleaning up the patch files by removing all changes from files that can be regenerated on jaunty. This leads to the server dbus interface working again. Futher, ubuntu jaunty binaries and source packages for secure mail notification and vanilla patches against mail notification 5.4 have been grouped into an archive and supplemented by a short readme explaining the patch files. ** Attachment added: mail notification with gnutls patch bundle (binary, source and patch files) http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33907605/secure-mail-notification-5.4.dfsg.1ubuntu3.zip -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
I hope that this gets fixed until the release of Karmic. I mean a setting like this is insane with a Laptop or Netbook. Even worse it is not so easy possible to compile an own version of mail-notification in Karmic because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mail-notification/+bug/435789 . At least after this there is no need to read a Jane Austen novel, we got all the stuff here ;D -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
If you can't recompile, you can use Stunnel. It binds to a port on your computer and forwards traffic with encryption (like ssh, but you don't need a shell account on the remote host). This is how Conky does secure email checks. Read the Conky FAQ at http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html (Q #10) to get it working. The Stunnel configuration will work just as well for mail-notification as it will for Conky. You may even end up replacing mail-notification with Conky, like I did. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Jean-Yves Lefort: You mentioned willingness to add this clause to your README file, which would apparently solve this. Any chance you could provide such a clause quickly, with no other source/feature-changes to mail-notification? We as users of this program (which so far fills a gap nobody else seems interested in working on...) would, I think, all greatly appreciate it -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
As bug reporter of bug #132947, who notified Ubuntu Security about the issue, I can barely express myself, as English is not my mother tongue, how poorly this issue is handled - YEARS passed by. Everyone is laughting at Microsoft when it takes them 10 months to fix severe security issues, but seeing this bug, I can well imagine why it takes so long. If I were so, and I was, about building packages everytime myself, I would use Gentoo, Slackware or any BSD - but Ubuntu is a binary distribution, therefore I like to have a binary delivered. I want something that just works. It needs someone to get it done on a political basis - either by fixing the issue or removing the piece of insecure code. my 2c Philipp -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
3 years and still arguing... come on! Is it really such ideological issue to enable SSL? :/ -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
This is what we in the U.S. call a Mexican standoff. This is a human problem, not a technical problem. Free software has been burdened by it for decades. This is why Emacs forked and XFree86 stagnated for years under bad management until Keith Packard staged a coup. Most free software developers and maintainers are volunteers, so they can't be forced to do anything. They are free to behave like children if they wish. I'm concerned when people say things like, I admire your devotion to your principles, but . . . in situations like this, because they're confusing integrity with inflexibility. If I refuse to do something which I consider immoral, I am demonstrating integrity. If I'm asked to do something legal, moral, and easy, but I refuse because I believe my interpretation of the rules should prevail, and any who have the temerity to disagree with me must submit to my superior opinion, even if that process is prolonged and inflicts collateral damage upon people who aren't even privy to the dispute, then I'm being inflexible. This situation is analogous to one I repeatedly encounter in my interactions with children who have Asperger's syndrome/high-functioning autism (I have it, too, like many programmers). Two autistic children who are playing a board game will disagree about the correct interpretation of the rules and they deadlock, neither making a move, each absolutely focused on winning the argument and making the other relent, so they miss the opportunity to enjoy the game, which was the original point. This behavior isn't admirable, it's petty. The children aren't defending moral principles. They just want everything their way. While there's nothing illogical about what they're doing, it's inconsiderate. They take do-or-die stands on trivial issues because they don't consider what other people might regard as important. Many people think this is simple selfishness, but this is actually a manifestation of a problem we have appreciating, in general, the perspectives of other people, and, specifically, considering the harmful effects our actions will have on other people, particularly bystanders. I actually agree with Jean-Yves Lefort's interpretation of the Debian policy document, but I'm more sympathetic to Debian's position because I think it's an overly cautious response to a legitimate fear of being destroyed by lawsuits. Even if the lawsuits have no merit, the cost in money and time (especially time) can be severely damaging. Their position may be technically incorrect, but I believe it's understandable in light of the threats to free software (e.g. SCO vs. Linux, a perfect example of a lawsuit without merit consuming time and resources). I want to emphasize, however, that either side could resolve this standoff. That is the nature of any Mexican standoff. Debian could and should fix the policy document so that people like Jean-Yves and me don't interpret it the way we do, since that isn't their intention. They should do this without regard to what Jean-Yves chooses to do or not do. It will only benefit them in the long run. Whether they will or not, however, is something only they control. In closing, I'd like to assure both sides that I'm not here just to criticize them. I'm running Debian with mail-notification at this moment, and I'm enjoying them both. mail-notification took long enough to compile that I know I wouldn't have had the patience to write it myself, so I'm appreciative of all the time Jean-Yves spent on it. As for the Debian and Ubuntu maintainers, they've saved me more time and money than I can count. Every time I seen a Vista box fail for no reason, I take a moment to appreciate the benefits of of using a real OS. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
I can't believe this is being argued over the course of three years. There is a two second fix for this which could be accomplished either by the ridiculously stubborn developer or the ridiculously stubborn distro maintainers. Put your egos aside and fix the problem! So dumb. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
This is still pissing me off so another note on this... There are potentially MILLIONS of users out there using this program and submitting their gmail password in cleartext. Jean-Yves Lefort, somebody wrote the gnutls code FOR you! I don't think you care about the security of the patch (aka your reputation)- if you cared about security you would try to make sure that the majority of users out there are using your program in a secure manner. The fact is you don't care about security, you care about winning an argument with the Ubuntu/Debian maintainers. Which chances are you are not going to win. And to those maintainers... this package is insecure enough that it shouldn't even be packaged and supported if you're not going to allow for OpenSSL compilation. Just remove it or allow for SSL. Seriously. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
I agree re removing this package or replacing it with another until this is fixed. It is insecure and I cannot see why many would use it without SSL. With SSL it's great, but if we have to repackage ourselves each time we install it may as well not be in the repository... -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
I second that. On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 21:38 +, Aidan Fitzpatrick wrote: I agree re removing this package or replacing it with another until this is fixed. It is insecure and I cannot see why many would use it without SSL. With SSL it's great, but if we have to repackage ourselves each time we install it may as well not be in the repository... -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Andrew I would like to use your ppa to have your solution dump the results as a deb into a directory that i can copy from machine to machine after building in one place. Is that possible? -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
By the way where in the source do I change that ugly icon when there is no new mail. Thanks. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Scratch that, I just had to end and restart the existing mail- notification binary i.e. sudo killall mail-notification and then restart from the preferences menu and the options appeared. Thanks for the solution guys. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Hi Andrew and Patrick, I can report that both of you methods work in that you get a package to install at the end, however I still have the SSL options greyed out after installation, any ideas? -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
This is how I build my package. I think this should work with Ubuntu, but I use Debian. Hopefully an Ubuntu user will report whether this works or not. You need to have deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list to download package sources. You'll have a bunch of files, so I suggest you make a directory to contain them. apt-get source mail-notification sudo apt-get build-dep mail-notification sudo apt-get install libssl-dev (this was removed from the build dependencies) cd mail-notification-5.4.dfsg.1 (the name of this directory may be different on your system) Edit debian/rules. Search for ssl=no and change it to ssl=yes. You can change the version number in debian/changelog if you want to. I append .0.ssl to it so updates are not blocked. dpkg-buildpackage -b -us -uc -tc cd .. sudo dpkg -i mail-notification*.deb -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
For those interested, I wrote a deb program that does the necessary steps to rebuild the 5.4 package in jaunty with SSL enabled. No steps to follow, just install my package from my PPA: https://launchpad.net/~andrew-rw-robinson/+archive/ppa Hope it helps. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
+1 Useless without SSL. I'm not going to send my password unencrypted over the internet! Using gnubiff until fixed! -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
I'm trying to get this setup in a PPA. I got it to build with a different version number, but if I try to rename the binary package as mail-notification-ssl (did not rename the source package), the build is failing due to the output directories I think. Anyone know all the steps necessary to get this to build under a different binary name? That way when a new mail-notification is released, it would not automatically upgrade the mail-notification-ssl package that you would have installed. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
I have decided that if debian has decided that GPL and libssl are incompatible, I am not going to subject myself to problems by making a PPA of this either. I am just going to keep re-packaging it. Perhaps the author may consider switching off of GPL, or having a dual license, or if not switching libraries, but until then, we are stuck with re-packaging as that doesn't affect the redistribution clause. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Could a SSL enabled package be built and uploaded to multiverse? -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
I'd like to understand: 6 months ago you found a solution to fix this but nothing has changed since then. Is there still anything keeping this bug from being solved? -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
useless without ssl, change it or remove it from repos. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Just adding another voice to the list! Useless without SSL. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Hello. I would just like to inform you, that there is one more person who thinks that current mail-notification in repository is completely useless as long as it does not have an SSL-support. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
oh, does not wrkkk, nooo ssl... -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
A big thank-you to Pat for such a well-reasoned and well-put argument. I look forward to Jean-Yves' addition to the README and hope that we will see MN *with* SSL/TLS in the official repos soon. As Pat notes, after JYL makes the README addition, arguments that the author does not allow for the distribution of MN with openssl demonstrate a lack of attention. If we see this resolved for Jaunty, we won't all have to come back here to mark the three year anniversary of this bug report ;) -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:02:03 - PatRiehecky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To double check my assumptions before going forward: 1) Debian holds that GPL software must make some exception for it to be correctly linked with openssl Correct. 2) JYL does not note an exception nor believe it to make any sense to do such Correct. 3) Without such an exception Debian will not link this Correct. 4) Ubuntu follows Debian in such policies It looks like it, but I've never seen an official statement. 5) Without the linkage no ssl is done Correct. A part of me wants to attack 4 for being a bit like a blind man following another, but as a loyal Debian and Ubuntu user, I will keep my mouth shut on such matters. Part of me wants to attack 2, while I know that in JYL is standing on principles that are personally important, refusing to write a sentence on this matter I do not intend to criticize someone for abiding by their principles in the face of adversity. Nice. :) Instead I will aim at making 5 imply 2. The argument that follows is based entirely on premise 1. A) MN has code in it which links to the openssl library B) MN is a GPL program Does A + B imply 1? Surly if JYL didn't want this code to be linked up to openssl no such code would be present. An analysis of the code demonstrates it is of high quality and does this linkage intentionally. The site documentation provides further support for a deliberate and intentional linkage to openssl. The build dependencies even list openssl as THE ONLY way to satisfy the SSL/TLS option. I would say that it is clear linking this to openssl is permitted by JYL. Given that it appears JYL has granted permission to link this to openssl by the inclusion of code which performs that function, why exactly do we need an official statement saying that linkage to openssl and distribution to others is permitted? The only bit that I feel would be needed to close up the leap would be an entry in the README indicating that JYL recommends linking the software to an SSL/TLS provider at all times. By saying that SSL linkage is recommended at all times along with the distribution of the source, it seems that anyone who is unable to determine if JYL will allow MN to be distributed along side of openssl is not paying attention. The key to sliding through the hole is the at all times. See http://www.gnome.org/~markmc/openssl-and-the-gpl.html with particular attention paid to the Debian template at the bottom. My reading of it boils down to, Yes you can link this with openssl, with the caveats expected (Thanks for the link JYL) Question 1: Did I whiff on the logic? This argument is a form of Original Intent legal argument, but free from some of the problems as we are just dealing with code where the intent is a bit more obvious than ethics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_intent Your analysis looks reasonable and senseful. Question 2: JYL are you willing to add this clause to the README? I expect you believe that SSL linkage should be done and as such this shouldn't violate your principles to encourage it. I obviously encourage enabling the SSL/TLS feature, so I would not mind adding something along these lines to the README file. Thanks for this well-written contribution. -- Jean-Yves Lefort [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Getting back to the root of the issue, ssl linkage. To double check my assumptions before going forward: 1) Debian holds that GPL software must make some exception for it to be correctly linked with openssl 2) JYL does not note an exception nor believe it to make any sense to do such 3) Without such an exception Debian will not link this 4) Ubuntu follows Debian in such policies 5) Without the linkage no ssl is done A part of me wants to attack 4 for being a bit like a blind man following another, but as a loyal Debian and Ubuntu user, I will keep my mouth shut on such matters. Part of me wants to attack 2, while I know that in JYL is standing on principles that are personally important, refusing to write a sentence on this matter I do not intend to criticize someone for abiding by their principles in the face of adversity. Instead I will aim at making 5 imply 2. The argument that follows is based entirely on premise 1. A) MN has code in it which links to the openssl library B) MN is a GPL program Does A + B imply 1? Surly if JYL didn't want this code to be linked up to openssl no such code would be present. An analysis of the code demonstrates it is of high quality and does this linkage intentionally. The site documentation provides further support for a deliberate and intentional linkage to openssl. The build dependencies even list openssl as THE ONLY way to satisfy the SSL/TLS option. I would say that it is clear linking this to openssl is permitted by JYL. Given that it appears JYL has granted permission to link this to openssl by the inclusion of code which performs that function, why exactly do we need an official statement saying that linkage to openssl and distribution to others is permitted? The only bit that I feel would be needed to close up the leap would be an entry in the README indicating that JYL recommends linking the software to an SSL/TLS provider at all times. By saying that SSL linkage is recommended at all times along with the distribution of the source, it seems that anyone who is unable to determine if JYL will allow MN to be distributed along side of openssl is not paying attention. The key to sliding through the hole is the at all times. See http://www.gnome.org/~markmc/openssl-and-the-gpl.html with particular attention paid to the Debian template at the bottom. My reading of it boils down to, Yes you can link this with openssl, with the caveats expected (Thanks for the link JYL) Question 1: Did I whiff on the logic? This argument is a form of Original Intent legal argument, but free from some of the problems as we are just dealing with code where the intent is a bit more obvious than ethics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_intent Question 2: JYL are you willing to add this clause to the README? I expect you believe that SSL linkage should be done and as such this shouldn't violate your principles to encourage it. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Okay, I guess another Ubuntu release without a usable mail-notification package in the repositories, right? Any chance to see Free Mail Notification in Backports for Intrepid soon? I think Debian and Ubuntu would both benefit from a renamed and patched package, so please don't hesitate any longer, your work is highly appreciated. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Looks like the easiest solution to me too. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Why not enable ssl and move it to multiverse? I personally use the package of getdeb.net which has SSL enabled. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Mikael, Jean-Yves, GPLv3, section 7 Additonal terms, paragraph 3 *e) Declining to grant rights under trademark law for use of some trade names, trademarks, or service marks; or * No problem. Jean-Yves may well have a valid trademark, I can live with it. But paragraph 5, penultimate paragraph of setion 7): *If you add terms to a covered work in accord with this section, you must place, in the relevant source files, a statement of the additional terms that apply to those files, or a notice indicating where to find the applicable terms. * As mentioned, I have *not* found such statements or notices in the sources I have downloaded. I cannot find it either when using the help file, or in the MN About dialog (firefox's 3.0.3 about box does, as previous versions probably also have). The only place I have found it, is at the bottom of a web page that may not be readily available to all recipients of the source code. How can then anyone know that there could be a potential trademark problem, and that MN can no longer be freely to modified and redistributed under GPLv3 ? All I am asking for is that future releases contain the required information as the license states they should. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
The as yet current release does AFAICS not satisfy that the patch can not be applied, thank you GPL - Anyhow, to remove further IMHO childish discussions with the author of this software, I simply recommend to rename the the package, apply a Patch that renames the whole software. Finito. I would vote for FreeMailNotification - Free like in Freedom of course. my 2c Philipp darn, all I wanted is to not submit my passwords in cleartext... can't belive it. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
OlivierP Jean-Yves is completely correct regarding trademarks. Noone stops you from using the sources under GPL3, but only Jean-Yves can let you use the name Mail Notification (assuming it's a valid trademark of course). Though there is of course, a potential iceweasel situation here - i.e. Ubuntu could choose to distribute the patched sources under a new name because of such issues. Jean-Yves - am I right in assuming that your resistance applies mostly to this patch, and not to all patches in general? Or better - what IS the exact trademark license, really? Can ubuntu ship MN with security fixes or not, for example? Where is the limit? /Mikael tis 2008-10-14 klockan 23:55 + skrev Jean-Yves Lefort: The GPLv3 obviously does not forbid to use a trademark as the name of a covered work. You're confusing trademark and licensing issues. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:16:18 - Mikael Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean-Yves - am I right in assuming that your resistance applies mostly to this patch, and not to all patches in general? You are. Or better - what IS the exact trademark license, really? Can ubuntu ship MN with security fixes or not, for example? Where is the limit? It certainly can. The limit is crossed when I explicitly disagree with a modification and the vendor decides to ignore my opinion. -- Jean-Yves Lefort [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
FYI: http://www.getdeb.net/release/2903 V. 5.4 , SSL _enabled_ despite package description stating otherwise. libssl appears as a dependency. It provides the evolution plugin also. I do hope it will be provided quickly after the Intrepid release also ... -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Jean-Yves, If you REALLY intend to prohibit others from applying AZ's patch and redistributing it under the name Mail Notification in releases _after_ 5.4, you need to change certain things. Using the sources downloaded here: http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/mailnotify/mail- notification-5.4.tar.bz2 MN 5.4 is released as found in it's online help, section 9.3, Licensing: This program is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public license as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. A copy of this license can be found at this link, or in the file COPYING included with the source code of this program. This is also what I have seen in the sources that I checked (I did not go through all of the files) I've done this in the downloaded source tree: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/mail-notification-5.4$ grep -nRi trademark * COPYING:379:e) Declining to grant rights under trademark law for use of some COPYING:380:trade names, trademarks, or service marks; or help/C/documentation-license.xml:21: products and services are claimed as trademarks. Where those help/C/documentation-license.xml:24: trademarks, then the names are in capital letters or initial jbsrc/lib/COPYING:379:e) Declining to grant rights under trademark law for use of some jbsrc/lib/COPYING:380:trade names, trademarks, or service marks; or [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/mail-notification-5.4$ I only find the lines of section 7 of GPLv3, but have not found, as per the same section: If you add terms to a covered work in accord with this section, you must place, in the relevant source files, a statement of the additional terms that apply to those files, or a notice indicating where to find the applicable terms. I have not found, but I may well have missed it, the additional terms related to your potential trademark. Is MN v 5.4 GPLv3 as published by the FSF or is it governed by (belgian ?) trademark law ? If the later, please remove references to GPLv3 from the sources, documentation, and your website for your future releases. A link to the trademark registration(s) would also be appreciated. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
The GPLv3 obviously does not forbid to use a trademark as the name of a covered work. You're confusing trademark and licensing issues. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: However, I own the Mail Notification trademark. Is it a registered trademark? In which country? I'm not sure whether this trademark is relevant for ubuntu. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Matthias, thank you! My sentiments, exactly... MN is so close to being *really* useful, so why not get the last piece of the puzzle in place? -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Matthias, The MN license certainly grants someone the freedom to modify the MN source code and redistribute the modified version. However, I own the Mail Notification trademark. Shipping a modified MN version that I have explicitly been disagreeing with is called trademark infringement. If someone wants to legally distribute such a MN version, he has to change the name of the application. Please keep in mind that it is my reputation which can potentially be damaged by this patch. For instance, if this patch contains a security vulnerability, the various security announcements that will be issued will contain my name. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Jean-Yves Lefort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias, The MN license certainly grants someone the freedom to modify the MN source code and redistribute the modified version. However, I own the Mail Notification trademark. Shipping a modified MN version that I have explicitly been disagreeing with is called trademark infringement. If someone wants to legally distribute such a MN version, he has to change the name of the application. Please keep in mind that it is my reputation which can potentially be damaged by this patch. For instance, if this patch contains a security vulnerability, the various security announcements that will be issued will contain my name. Not to sound too bad, but the current ubuntu version has the biggest security hole possible, it sends passwords clear text over the internet. Any SSL support is much better than the current versions shipped with Debian and Ubuntu. I am surprised that Debian and Ubuntu allow the the application in the distro without SSL. For example, the gmail account doesn't even warn you that the connection is not secure. I like the product a lot and I package it myself with SSL enabled as I would much rather not use the library than use it without any security. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Pascal, I think you SHOULD include AZ's patch. It doesn't seem to hurt to add that option, and those not comfortable with it can just leave it unused... -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Havard, I've already pointed out above that I disagree with the idea. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Rachel, mail-notification is GPL'd, while OpenSSH and Apache are released under more liberal licenses. The problem isn't with OpenSSL per se; it's with the combination of OpenSSL with a GPL-covered programme. That said, GPL'd software may be combined with OpenSSL _if_ the software's author adds an exception to the license allowing linking with OpenSSL. mail-notification's author refuses to do that. At least, this is the way I understand the situation. IANAL and all that. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Jean-Yves, I, for one, really really like mail-notification and I deeply respect the work that you have put into it. Yet I'm here, unable to use this free piece of software, while the author is explicitely refusing to do anything constructive to change the users' situation, including making a tiny license change that would make everyone happy and wouldn't hurt anyone, at least as far as my viewpoint is concerned. Personally, I think you, as the author, have every right to refuse to help. But you're not only refusing to help, you're at the same time discouraging others from helping themselves. If this is the case, why did you choose the GPL in the first place? The GPL is all about the users' ability to help themselves if need be. This is such a situation. Do you want Ubuntu to distribute a version of mail-notification that you have reviewed for bugs and can proudly put your name on? You could effect this easily by either blessing or, better yet, merging the port to GNUTLS or by changing the license. If you don't want to do either, that's fine, but in this case, why do you complain about someone actually making use of the freedom that your chosen license grants for the exact purpose that is being considered here? -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
any chance to include mn with ssl support enabled in intrepid? or is there an alternative to mn that supports ssl? -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
excuse me if this is a silly question, but why is it ok for openssh- client/openssh-server and apache2.2-common to depend on libssl and not mail-notification? -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
If someone with expertise in this sector could check the code it would be fine I guess. It wouldn't be more insecure than now but I am not sure about the license/name thing. I think that there is no fork needed. It doesn't seem to be so much code to review and support for both libs could be shipped so no one loses his face imho. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Back to main subject, i'm left wondering if i should apply AZ's patch or not... I'm well aware of Jean-Yves' opinion on this but I'd like your thoughts on the issue. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:31 PM, omni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Woot! Merci merci merci monsieur! I had deleted all my build directories so in order to get the log I had to build again. Looking at the output from ./jb configure I noticed that ssl was enabled. Initially this frustrated me: if ssl is enabled, why is it disabled in the built gui??? I figured I'd carry on and build so I could post the build log in case it offered any insight. After building and installing I decided I'd do a quick test just to see if it had magically worked this time and booya - 5.4 is working with SSL just fine now. (And it doesn't crash when I hover the mouse over the tray icon, heh) Again - merci beaucoup mon ami! Bienvenue! i'm glad it worked :-) FWIW, i've started packaging mn-5.4 but haven't had the time to finalize it yet. Cheers, -Pascal -- Homepage (http://organact.mine.nu) Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org) LACIME: École de technologie supérieure (http://lacime.etsmtl.ca) -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:41 PM, omni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's in the gconf key /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mailto/command ? Aha, thanks - that was still set to evolution. How come this is not set when going thru the Preferred Application GUI is actually beyond me... SSL/TLS is disabled even tho libssl-dev is installed?! What's in the configure/build logs? Where do I find the configure/build log? In the build/ folder. e.g. /tmp/mail-notification-5.4.dfsg.1/build/build.log . For me, executing `./jb configure` does show ssl as enabled. You might have noticed that there's been significant changes upstream since 4.x Indeed - and I'd prefer to use 5.4 if it would only allow TLS! :) So anyway, I now have more trouble. 4.1 is working to an extent - it allows TLS so I can actually _USE_ it, but when I hover the mouse over the tray icon the app crashes and the icon goes away. When I click on it to launch the e-mail app, the icon goes away and the app crashes without loading my e-mail app. Obviously something's buggered. I suspect this is connected to schemas and bonobo. Try restarting bonobo or more drastically rebooting. Hope this helps, -Pascal -- Homepage (http://organact.mine.nu) Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org) LACIME: École de technologie supérieure (http://lacime.etsmtl.ca) -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Woot! Merci merci merci monsieur! I had deleted all my build directories so in order to get the log I had to build again. Looking at the output from ./jb configure I noticed that ssl was enabled. Initially this frustrated me: if ssl is enabled, why is it disabled in the built gui??? I figured I'd carry on and build so I could post the build log in case it offered any insight. After building and installing I decided I'd do a quick test just to see if it had magically worked this time and booya - 5.4 is working with SSL just fine now. (And it doesn't crash when I hover the mouse over the tray icon, heh) Again - merci beaucoup mon ami! -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:53 PM, omni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok I tried clicking on the tray icon to bring up my mail reader and it tried to load Evolution, even though my Preferred Applications is set to use Thunderbird. What's in the gconf key /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mailto/command ? Get it with something like gconftool-2 --get /apps/mail-notification/commands/mail-read/command or by using gconf-editor. (You might want to try to install gconf-editor to easily get/set its value). I installed 5.4 again now that I have libssl-dev, in hopes that there would be an option to select which mail reader to use. Double- disappointment: not only is v5.4 still lacking in that feature, but the SSL/TLS became disabled again. SSL/TLS is disabled even tho libssl-dev is installed?! What's in the configure/build logs? I've reverted to 4.1 (again using the dpkg build routine after ensuring --disable-ssl had been removed from debian/rules) [side-note: i notice there's no debian/rules file in 5.4...] and now that I'm back to 4.1 the TLS/SSL support is back. No debian packaging files for 5.4 as haven't ported them yet. You might have noticed that there's been significant changes upstream since 4.x . Changes include license changes and a switch to a not-autotools configure/build tool. [...] How can I set mail-notification to launch the correct mail reader? Try editing the relevant gconf key as mentionned above. -Pascal -- Homepage (http://organact.mine.nu) Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org) LACIME: École de technologie supérieure (http://lacime.etsmtl.ca) -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
What's in the gconf key /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mailto/command ? Aha, thanks - that was still set to evolution. SSL/TLS is disabled even tho libssl-dev is installed?! What's in the configure/build logs? Where do I find the configure/build log? You might have noticed that there's been significant changes upstream since 4.x Indeed - and I'd prefer to use 5.4 if it would only allow TLS! :) So anyway, I now have more trouble. 4.1 is working to an extent - it allows TLS so I can actually _USE_ it, but when I hover the mouse over the tray icon the app crashes and the icon goes away. When I click on it to launch the e-mail app, the icon goes away and the app crashes without loading my e-mail app. Obviously something's buggered. The ideal situation would be for me to get TLS working with 5.4 but after following all the instructions given (and making sure I have libssl-dev installed in synaptic) it's still disabled. Sssso... I guess the stopping point now is just waiting to find out where to look for the logs. thanks! :) -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Hi, Running Ubu 8.04 I just tried downloading the most recent source to compile with TLS support and when I tried to run './jb configure' I received an error about GLib not being installed. I fired up synaptic and libglib 2.0 is in fact installed. Tried the 'apt-get build-dep mail-notification' to install the dependencies. After that, tried './jb configure' again and it installed perfectly. So it seems that a good idea is in fact to install the dependencies. Sure, it might also install some unneeded cruft, but I'd rather have a bit of cruft and a functional (and secure) mail scanner than to have no cruft and no scanner. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Ok looks like I spoke too soon... after typing 'sudo ./jb install' it ran through the installation and it reported that it had installed itself. When I run 'mail-notification' the app comes up, but I still have no TLS/SSL support. (The options are still disabled). I've tried going through the process outlined in the README file a second time, this time with './jb configure ssl=yes' just to ensure ssl is being included... same results. Program works, TLS is still disabled. I followed all the steps in the README and I received no errors. What's going wrong here? -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:29 PM, omni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok looks like I spoke too soon... after typing 'sudo ./jb install' it ran through the installation and it reported that it had installed itself. When I run 'mail-notification' the app comes up, but I still have no TLS/SSL support. (The options are still disabled). I've tried going through the process outlined in the README file a second time, this time with './jb configure ssl=yes' just to ensure ssl is being included... same results. Program works, TLS is still disabled. I followed all the steps in the README and I received no errors. What's going wrong here? Do you have libssl-dev installed? -Pascal -- Homepage (http://organact.mine.nu) Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org) LACIME: École de technologie supérieure (http://lacime.etsmtl.ca) -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Didn't have libssl-dev installed. I tried reverting to 4.1 and manually rebuilding with dpkg and libssl- dev and now 4.1 works perfectly with TLS. Now that I have libssl-dev I could try with 5.4 but 4.1 seems to have everything I need. Have there been any significant security updates between 4.1 and 5.4 or are all the changes mostly cosmetic? -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:14 PM, omni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't have libssl-dev installed. I tried reverting to 4.1 and manually rebuilding with dpkg and libssl- dev and now 4.1 works perfectly with TLS. Now that I have libssl-dev I could try with 5.4 but 4.1 seems to have everything I need. Have there been any significant security updates between 4.1 and 5.4 or are all the changes mostly cosmetic? Security-wise, the most significant feature must be the usage of GNOME Keyring to store passwords. (They used to be stored in plaintext in ~/.gnome2/mail-notification/mailboxes.xml). Of course that particular feature is mentionned in the NEWS file, the paragraph itself is an entertaining read. Allow me to quote Jean-Yves: Passwords are now encrypted, using GNOME Keyring. Note that I do not endorse the flawed GNOME Keyring approach of granting passwords an encryption-worth status while ignoring other sensitive data. Furthermore, at the time of this writing, GNOME Keyring does not seem to prevent the memory it uses for storing the passwords from being swapped out to disk. However, despite these flaws, it has been observed that GNOME Keyring has beneficial psychological effects on some users. For increased psychological well-being, MN even moves the plain text passwords it finds in mailboxes.xml to the keyring. Food for thoughts. ;-) Cheers, -Pascal -- Homepage (http://organact.mine.nu) Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org) LACIME: École de technologie supérieure (http://lacime.etsmtl.ca) -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Ok I tried clicking on the tray icon to bring up my mail reader and it tried to load Evolution, even though my Preferred Applications is set to use Thunderbird. I installed 5.4 again now that I have libssl-dev, in hopes that there would be an option to select which mail reader to use. Double- disappointment: not only is v5.4 still lacking in that feature, but the SSL/TLS became disabled again. I've reverted to 4.1 (again using the dpkg build routine after ensuring --disable-ssl had been removed from debian/rules) [side-note: i notice there's no debian/rules file in 5.4...] and now that I'm back to 4.1 the TLS/SSL support is back. There's still the problem that mail-notification launches the wrong e-mail client. My first thought is to simply uninstall evolution, but synaptic has all the evo files highlighted in bright red which I'm guessing means they shouldn't be installed due to dependencies. How can I set mail-notification to launch the correct mail reader? -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Heheh I like the quote, Pascal... So very true. Although ultimately if you've been rooted so someone has access to the plaintext password file, YOU'VE BEEN ROOTED and thus have bigger concerns than just your e-mail password file! heheh My concern is with sending plaintext passwords over a network. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Omni, the fact that synaptics highlights things in red doesn't mean it's dangerous to delete them. It just means they are set for deletion. I don't think re-installing evo is the right thing to do nor will solve anything for you, but don't be alarmed by those bright colours ;-). It's the normal behaviour for apps set for deletion. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Running Hardy Heron I downloaded the most recent source of mail-notification from: http://www.nongnu.org/mailnotify/ And followed the Readme to install and it works fine with ssl/tls notification. I'm very happy. Being relatively new to compiling, I cheated a bit before I installed by running sudo apt-get build-dep mail-notification from the terminal. This installed the dependencies and the compliers (true?) so I could build and install mail-notification. Had I not run apt-get build-dep mail-notification, how would I have known what compilers and dependencies were needed to build and install? Thanks. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Good morning! On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:35 AM, EarloftheWest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being relatively new to compiling, I cheated a bit before I installed by running sudo apt-get build-dep mail-notification from the terminal. This installed the dependencies and the compliers (true?) so I could build and install mail-notification. Had I not run apt-get build-dep mail-notification, how would I have known what compilers and dependencies were needed to build and install? Well... by having a look at the README in the official package from Jean-Yves. apt-get build-dep mail-notification most likely installed abit too much stuff as things have changed abit between 4.x and 5.x, but you might have already installed autotools as it's a _very_ common dependency for other packages. cheers, -Pascal -- Homepage (http://organact.mine.nu) Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org) LACIME: École de technologie supérieure (http://lacime.etsmtl.ca) -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
As a first step to getting this in multiverse, can someone produce a 5.x-series source deb? I don't have much experience at producing debs and the new build system in 5.x doesn't jibe w/ the instructions for building debs I've seen online. -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Edwin Shin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a first step to getting this in multiverse, can someone produce a 5.x-series source deb? I don't have much experience at producing debs and the new build system in 5.x doesn't jibe w/ the instructions for building debs I've seen online. I intend to update mail-notification to 5.x for debian as soon as possible (as time permits). There are many changes from 4.x to 5.x which require special attention. Among those changes are the switch from autotools to Jean-Yves' own build system. That said, any help is appreciated. I'd gladly welcome a co-maintainer. Cheers, -Pascal -- Homepage (http://organact.mine.nu) Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org) LACIME: École de technologie supérieure (http://lacime.etsmtl.ca) -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
I justed looked over the patch and found I forgot to remove some debugging stuff. ** Attachment added: Add gnutls support to mail notification 5.4 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14697369/diff.txt -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
Is there a way to remove a patch from a bug report or to replace it silently? Here comes rev3 patch containing a minor fix. ** Attachment added: Add gnutls support to mail notification 5.4 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14697483/diff.txt -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 44335] Re: IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
@Tero: thanks :) @Ilmari: Sry, but I don't know yet how to handle gconf registering and so on in deb / ubuntu packages so I can hardly build a deb package in this case. @Jean-Yves Lefort: Thanks for pointing out that this patch is not yet perfect ;). But apart from the mistakes I corrected, most of the gnutls related code is rather almost copypaste from gnutls documentation so I don't expect too much errors . Perhaps you could point out qualitity shartfalls because I'm not afraid of improving my own coding style ;) -- IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44335 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
