[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
** Also affects: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Summary changed: - [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation + [Upstream] Shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation ** Changed in: openoffice Importance: Undecided => Unknown ** Changed in: openoffice Status: New => Unknown ** Changed in: openoffice Remote watch: None => OpenOffice.org Issue Tracker #109896 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 Title: [Upstream] Shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/452073/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
** Changed in: df-libreoffice Status: Unknown => Confirmed ** Changed in: df-libreoffice Importance: Unknown => Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 Title: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/452073/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #40961 http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40961 ** Also affects: df-libreoffice via http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40961 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 Title: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/452073/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
** Changed in: openoffice.org (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 Title: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openoffice/+bug/452073/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
On the same configuration, the new lucid version needs 6 seconds instead of 7 with karmic for guessing the configuration, thus quite the same duration. -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
** Tags added: lucid -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
This bug still occurs on lucid. The bug appears on amd64 too. ** Tags removed: karmic -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
** Tags added: karmic -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
I filed a request for enhancement upstream: http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=109896 However, I think this enhancement has to be integrated on Ubuntu side as well. ** Bug watch added: OpenOffice.org Issue Tracker #109896 http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=109896 -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
I installed karmic from Xubuntu 9.04 (update-manager -d). Next I installed the lxde meta-package and I replaced gdm by xdm. Finally I removed most parts of the xfce environment as well as rsync, cups and cron (but kept anacron) -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
I'm surprised a system that old can even hold enough ram to be able to run Ubuntu and OOo at the same time. I remember when I had a Duron 1GHz system back in mid 2000 and I don't think it could take more than ~ 512MB ram but I may be misremembering. -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
Note that I desactivated the splash screen in /etc/openoffice/sofficerc by using the below setting: - Logo=0 - -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
I instrumented the /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice script in order to know how much time it is needs to guess the configuration. It appears that guessing the environment variables requires 7 seconds during the cold start of: - /bin/dash /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice -writer - See attachement for the details. Guessing the environment variables is quite 30% of the cold startup time ! ** Attachment added: "diff --unified /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bak /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/34073012/soffice.diff -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
I instrumented the /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice script in order to know how much time it is needs to guess the configuration. It appears that guessing the environment variables requires 7 seconds during the cold start of: - /bin/dash /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice -writer - See attachement for the details. Guessing the environment variables is quite 30% of the cold startup time ! -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
processor: AMD Duron 800 MHz :D However my Sony VAIO has the perfect dimensions for my work (13 inches screen with 4/3 form factor that I can't find anymore). Moreover, I will wait until I find a cheaper laptop with a linux distro installed by default. Currently I've to pay 900 Euros for that. Of course I can find such a laptop with Microsoft Windows installed starting at 700 Euros but I don't want to buy a Microsoft license, event if it is more expensive. Anyway I would just overwrite it with a linux distro :P Why a laptop which includes the price of a Microsoft licence is cheaper ? -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
Wow 24 seconds? Even netbooks, which are extremely slow, don't take even a third of that time cold, what kind of system is that, an original pentium? -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
On my host the cold startup of Open Office Writer last ~24 seconds. I think that caching the environment configuration would avoid to seek/load many datal files as well as programs helpers (sed, awk, ...) and their dependencies. -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
If we think that the details aren't important then we can design a filesystem which leads to fragmentation like a famous shopkeeper of Redmond, just because we think that isn't important to write the new files to a place were it could have place to be extended. I think that each detail is important. Each energy source (nuke, coal, gaz, oil, wind, water, solar cell, solar thermic facility, plants oil, ...) has a drawback (nuclear wastes/risk, carbon dioxide, cost/space, seisms, chemical wastes, used space, energy/food competition, ...). We have to lower the energy consumption when it is easy. When I'm using Microsoft Word, it opens just in one click. When I'm using Open Office, I have the time to take a coffee before it is launched, even we the (not so) quick start. -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
At 2 seconds for the entire OOo startup time, for my laptop the battery lasts around 21600 seconds, that is waste of much less than .009% if you consider the entire startup time of OOo as wasted energy. Which is why I marked the bug as wishlist and why I doubt upstream is ever going to take the time to fix it. -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 452073] Re: [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation
Moreover, it wastes energy for netbooks, laptops, ect. -- [ooo-build] shouldn't detect configuration at each invocation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/452073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
