[Bug 772153] Re: unity prevents me from being productive on my desktop

2011-05-08 Thread Martin Wildam
After a really short evaluation of Debian Testing and Fedora 14 I have
to say: As long as you give me the option to use Gnome I am fine with
Ubuntu. - The other two failed in some core elements (apart from
installation procedure that works really flawless only in Ubuntu)...

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[Bug 772153] Re: unity prevents me from being productive on my desktop

2011-05-07 Thread Martin Wildam
Looks like they know better, what is efficient: 
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1746
I like Ubuntu and prefered it so far (switched from Fedora about 2 years ago). 
Don't force me to go!

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[Bug 772153] Re: unity prevents me from being productive on my desktop

2011-05-07 Thread Martin Wildam
First I have seen Unity I thought: Hey, this is going in a nice
direction - I like Cairo Dock very much (still trying to find an optimal
configuration for me). I like the icons on the left and that this sort
of menu is combined with the task bar.

However, from all available Dockbars like SimDock, Cairo Dock and all
those - the unity is really the one with the poorest set of features and
zero configuration - I could not find any option somewhere to adapt
behaviour. And the Unity task bar sometimes hides and sometimes not -
not always in a manner I can understand. And how to change order of
icons? Tried a long time without success.

Apart from that look e.g. at the menu location - extracted from Window
and put to top. What sense does that make? Imagine a large
monitor/screen and a small window on the bottom right - many mouse miles
to go to the menu and back. - OK managed to switch that back to original
- but the default does not make sense.

Next thing: Some applications I used, I either don't remember the name - how to 
find them now? 
More clicks than before to get to application categories and huge icons - now 
overview.

I can understand and appreciate the attempts to create something new -
but you can't put something like this as standard for the distro when it
is very far from being finished. Unity is not ready for the masses!

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Re: [Bug 772153] Re: unity prevents me from being productive on my desktop

2011-04-28 Thread PresuntoRJ
I hope someone understand that I actually want Unity to get better, so good,
it will be unavoidable to use it, and people will love it... having 50% i
hate it, 30% it looks odd, 10% er, so so, 5 % I  could use it it I have to,
and 5% I simply love it... should not be the goal.

2011/4/28 Fabio T. Leitao 

> I never said it could not be fixed... and by the way, choices are good... I
> just pointed clear flaws that WILL PREVENT NORMAL USERS from ever trying to
> adopt it as it stands... my mom found it creepy, to say the least, and made
> me promisse never to put it in her own computer. Both my work partners, my
> brother, an uncle, his son... They all had similar reactions :-/ It has got
> to improove a lot before being considered the default setting of any
> thing... if it is still that bizaar, when its intended to become the Ubuntu
> look and feel, people will tend to avoid it. I understand the gnome-do idea
> behind it, I get the need for space, but it seems so ill implemented that I
> would never consider it a serious setting to be shoved into the users for
> normal screen sizes desktops... not yet.
>
> by the way, usability and ergonomy are not a matter of opinios ! just count
> the amount of clicks to do anything ! if you hate getting a bit criticized,
> you should consider another carrer/hobby that do not involve having to deal
> with users/customers... not every idea is perfect, not every implementation
> of an idea are good, but we can try to get better by learning to what is
> bothering everyone else and try to improve, instead of just being stubern,
> pretending to be death, cause the only one that can be right is me me me,
> cause my idea is the best, and F*** the rest. Could not be more honest about
> that.
>
> having said that, read again what I have posted in the first email, this I
> consider a bug, cause they are fixable.
>
> for instance, I know I can install compizconfig-settings-manager and adjust
> in a hidden option somwhere to keep the sidebar from autohidding, but NOT
> HAVING AN EASY WAY FOR REGULAR USER TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME IS A BUG 
>
>
> 2011/4/28 Sly <772...@bugs.launchpad.net>
>
>> I tend to enjoy Unity. Brings something new to the table. Plus, with the
>> roll-out of GNOME3 comes a pretty bland interface, since it's still so
>> new. There should be a mix of GNOME3 and Unity, but with more user
>> preferences allowing customization. Just remember, GNOME didn't start
>> out perfect. It took many revisions to get it to look decent.
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Re: [Bug 772153] Re: unity prevents me from being productive on my desktop

2011-04-28 Thread PresuntoRJ
I never said it could not be fixed... and by the way, choices are good... I
just pointed clear flaws that WILL PREVENT NORMAL USERS from ever trying to
adopt it as it stands... my mom found it creepy, to say the least, and made
me promisse never to put it in her own computer. Both my work partners, my
brother, an uncle, his son... They all had similar reactions :-/ It has got
to improove a lot before being considered the default setting of any
thing... if it is still that bizaar, when its intended to become the Ubuntu
look and feel, people will tend to avoid it. I understand the gnome-do idea
behind it, I get the need for space, but it seems so ill implemented that I
would never consider it a serious setting to be shoved into the users for
normal screen sizes desktops... not yet.

by the way, usability and ergonomy are not a matter of opinios ! just count
the amount of clicks to do anything ! if you hate getting a bit criticized,
you should consider another carrer/hobby that do not involve having to deal
with users/customers... not every idea is perfect, not every implementation
of an idea are good, but we can try to get better by learning to what is
bothering everyone else and try to improve, instead of just being stubern,
pretending to be death, cause the only one that can be right is me me me,
cause my idea is the best, and F*** the rest. Could not be more honest about
that.

having said that, read again what I have posted in the first email, this I
consider a bug, cause they are fixable.

for instance, I know I can install compizconfig-settings-manager and adjust
in a hidden option somwhere to keep the sidebar from autohidding, but NOT
HAVING AN EASY WAY FOR REGULAR USER TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME IS A BUG 

2011/4/28 Sly <772...@bugs.launchpad.net>

> I tend to enjoy Unity. Brings something new to the table. Plus, with the
> roll-out of GNOME3 comes a pretty bland interface, since it's still so
> new. There should be a mix of GNOME3 and Unity, but with more user
> preferences allowing customization. Just remember, GNOME didn't start
> out perfect. It took many revisions to get it to look decent.
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[Bug 772153] Re: unity prevents me from being productive on my desktop

2011-04-27 Thread Sly
I tend to enjoy Unity. Brings something new to the table. Plus, with the
roll-out of GNOME3 comes a pretty bland interface, since it's still so
new. There should be a mix of GNOME3 and Unity, but with more user
preferences allowing customization. Just remember, GNOME didn't start
out perfect. It took many revisions to get it to look decent.

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[Bug 772153] Re: unity prevents me from being productive on my desktop

2011-04-27 Thread BavarianPH
One has to agree with PresuntoRJ above.

Finding the right app takes much more time

then the classic main-menu & gnome-panel..

By the way, both apps can be used  in natty-unity,

use the startup applications preferences & add

gnome-panel, vola, natty-unity is half way fixed.

Now, make the launcher roll into one icon-button,

& make the rolled up launcher move to any panel,

& any of th sides or corners, horizontal or vertical.

Have the search window actually accept input &

execute.

Better yet, have gnome3 & gnome-shell install,

switchable with unity & classic desktop.

Unity was a error & bug of epic proportions.

Gnome3 is by far the best upgrade of Linux,

from its start to now.

Gnome3 has great updatability, is upgradeable , tweak-able,

& adaptable.

Unity is a dead end!

The main-menu or gnome-menu

could work for small devices.

Many of us anonymous testers & decision makers

will go with gnome3, Ubuntu-gnome,

we'll keep an eye on unity to the bitter end.

BavarianPH,

Ubuntu & gnome forever!

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[Bug 772153] Re: unity prevents me from being productive on my desktop

2011-04-27 Thread Sly
This "bug report" is all opinion, not valid bugs. Provide specific
details on one or more bugs for this to be considered a bug report.

Don't be discouraged, though, as all feedback is welcome.

** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Opinion

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[Bug 772153] Re: unity prevents me from being productive on my desktop

2011-04-27 Thread PresuntoRJ
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