[Bug 782524] Re: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept
I have marked it as opinion as this have no chance of ever being official. ** Changed in: unity Status: New = Invalid ** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: unity Status: Invalid = Opinion ** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Opinion -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/782524 Title: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/782524/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 782524] Re: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept
I don't know if there is any work being done to address/implement the idea here but I must say, I really really like it. I think the click-to-gain-focus is not an issue if the menu is shown on hover for only active windows. That is, if there is an inactive maximized (unmaximized) window at the back, and you want to click on the title bar to put the focus on that window, the menu should not show on hover or first click. It should show only after the window gains focus. Of course, if the user made it so that focus follows mouse, then it would obey that. Also, I've been thinking about the length of menu for some programs, as this is a real potential issue even for the current design for low-res screens and some applications. What can be done is to show as many of the menu items as possible, and stack the rest in a final drawer item that looks like a pointer or an arrow; just like how Windows or KDE handles system indicators. This must be done dynamically (so I'm not sure how difficult the implementation would be) so that if the user changes window size, or font size, or screen resolution, all should be handled seamlessly. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/782524 Title: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/782524/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 782524] Re: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept
** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/782524 Title: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/782524/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 782524] Re: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept
I have been thinking on this once, and as a possible solution I see adding a bit of padding above the menubar, e.g. 10 px, so you can click and drag the window borders too, but you have the menu's in there. I still see that moving the menubar for non-maximized windows in the titlebar would be a very nice and clean solution, only it has some problems (maybe less than the current implementation has) like the one about finding a way to handle clicking the window border to focus it, dragging, etc. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/782524 Title: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/782524/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 782524] Re: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept
Robert: adding space at the top of the screen, would mean that you can't hit the menubars just by moving the pointer towards the top of the screen (one of the major advantages of a global menu). Is that what you're suggesting? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/782524 Title: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/782524/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 782524] Re: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept
I understand your concerns about the click for focus and the dragdrop issues... - I guess the drag and drop issue is not the big problem, because the event handler only opens the menu if there is a click without drag and drop, although the menu bar itself appears visually. - the click for focus issue is maybe the bigger problem in that. I do not have a clear response on that (to be honest). In my opinion the free and open ubuntu way should be that there exist (for power users maybe) the chance to select which menu concept of preference. The 11.04 global menu concept or the hybrid (the mentioned one here) one. so every user can choose for itself which concept fits better its needs. I would like to implement that concept for myself, but I have no idea where to start. If someone could tutorial me in what IDE, what packages, what techniques are used for the menu and where in the source to find it then I could try to implement it. but right now I would be lost :) please contact me on adriansit...@hotmail.com (MSN) or mail on adrian.wech...@gmail.com. I really would love to help. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/782524 Title: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/782524/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 782524] Re: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept
@Paul: I meant adding top padding above the menubar in non-maximized windows, to be able to drag/focus/etc the window easily. I am aware that it would be less vertical space efficient, but as long as we keep the padding less than 24px (I guess that's the menubar's height) and I guess that 10px, even less should be sufficient, but that would need user testing. But that was just my idea, probably there are many better solutions to be able to have the menubar in the window titlebar for non- maximized windows and also be able to use the titlebar (for moving/focusing the window). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/782524 Title: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/782524/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 782524] Re: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept
Another issue: The best way to switch from a normal window to a maximized one in the background is clicking in the menu bar of the maximized application (it's fast and you don't have the risk of pressing any buttons or links in the maximized window). Whether this works or not heavily depends on how large the menu of the focused application is and if you have thought about the menu at all. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/782524 Title: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 782524] Re: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept
Oh yes that's true. I made a test. My 11 most used applications which have global menu: - Nautilus - Firefox - LibreOffice Writer - Pinta Image Editor - Gimp - Terminal - Ubuntu Software Center - FileZilla - Mysql Query Browser - Calculator - VirtualBox OSE has the largest (horizontal) menu bar. Took 50% of the top panel. all the others took much less. Using a screen resolution of: 1440x900. so if someone uses a resolution of 1024xXXX then in this example GIMP would use the whole free menu bar space for itself and there would be no space any more for clicking to focus. GIMP is a bad example for a 1024 screen, but shows well the matter. For myself I always can click on the free space (so no worry)... and often I work with key shortcuts (no worry either)... but there could be cases where you can't click on top panel for window focus. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/782524 Title: Suggestion for a new Unity Menu Concept -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
