[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2017-06-29 Thread Bryan Quigley
** Changed in: unity-2d
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

** Changed in: unity-2d (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2012-09-29 Thread Mancy
I found this

http://superuser.com/questions/351496/why-does-the-terminal-in-unity-2d-
ubuntu-11-10-always-stay-in-the-foreground

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2012-04-19 Thread Colin Law
For the record I find that the workaround in comment #4, which disables 
compositing, can have the side effect of messing up the background of the 
launcher.  See bug #960366.  At the moment this is the only side effect that I 
have noticed.
Interestingly the problem described in comment #9 (bug #846528) seems to have 
gone away.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2012-04-08 Thread Charlie Kempson
I also see this problem.  Unity 2D, 12.04, dual-display width  2048.
Terminal won't ever go behind other windows.  In addition, the terminal
stays in front of its own menus, so the menus are unusuable, and also
stays in front of any pop up dialogues (e.g. the one which says that a
process is still running and do you want to kill it).

This bug has been annoying me for at least the last 12 months, I think
from the first time I installed Unity 2D.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2012-04-08 Thread Colin Law
@Charlie, just in case you missed it, the workaround in comment #4 fixes
the problem for me and does not seem to have any significant side
effects.  Not ideal I know but much better than nothing.

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Re: [Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2012-04-08 Thread Péter Trombitás
Also, as another workaround, I use Guake from now on. It hides, so it's
good for me. And you can start searching for terminals that doesn't produce
this (Xterm is one of them :)). So you can enjoy unity-2d with a resolution
 2048*X

2012/4/8 Colin Law 788...@bugs.launchpad.net

 @Charlie, just in case you missed it, the workaround in comment #4 fixes
 the problem for me and does not seem to have any significant side
 effects.  Not ideal I know but much better than nothing.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2012-01-25 Thread Colin Law
I am still seeing this problem in 12.04.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-11-20 Thread Gerry Boland
** Changed in: unity-2d
Milestone: 4.14 = None

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-18 Thread Colin Law
No luck getting compositing going in xfwm I am afraid.
It seemed to me that it should be on by default, but I tried
I tried xfwm4 --compositor=on --replace 
and I tried creating /etc/X11/xorg.conf (there was not one before) containing
Section Extensions
Option  Composite  Enable
EndSection
and logging out and in and doing the xfwm4 command (with compositing again)
but to no avail.

Google has not provided any other suggestions.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-18 Thread Colin Law
Just as a matter of interest is it known why it is only (as far as I
know) gnome-terminal that shows this problem?  Perhaps there is a clue
there.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-18 Thread Colin Law
Having said that I have failed to enable compositing in xfwm, I am not
entirely sure that I know how to tell when it is enabled.  What would I
expect to see?

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Re: [Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-18 Thread Sabin Iacob
On 10/18/2011 06:46 PM, Colin Law wrote:
 Just as a matter of interest is it known why it is only (as far as I
 know) gnome-terminal that shows this problem?  Perhaps there is a clue
 there.

because probably gnome-terminal is the only commonly used app to have 
compositing transparency on by default; if that were changeable (I 
remember in the good old days there were some apps that let you change a 
window's opacity when using compositing, couldn't find one these days; 
consistent with the Gnome mindset of users are stupid, let's disable 
all controls, mind you...)

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-17 Thread Michał Sawicz
@James just so you know - using metacity without compositing vs. any
other window manager without compositing gains exactly nothing.

@Colin run `xfwm4 --replace ` / `openbox --replace ` to get them to
manage your windows.

I was unable to turn on xfwm compositing, though...

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-17 Thread Colin Law
Is there any point me trying xfwm4 then?  I am happy to try things if it
will help with diagnosis, but not much point unless something will be
learnt by it.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-17 Thread Michał Sawicz
If you can get it to do compositing - sure, that would be very
interesting to know.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-17 Thread Colin Law
Unfortunately that assumes that I would have some clue as to where to start to 
get it to do compositing :)
If you were unable to is it likely that I would?

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-17 Thread Michał Sawicz
If you had more than 30s, as I did, to spend on it, probably! Starting
point - google, as usual :)

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-13 Thread James Gifford
Can we just move to openbox for Unity 2D in 12.04? (seriously).

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-13 Thread James Gifford
Ugh, hit send too soon.

What I really mean is that this bug is a metacity-unity2d-gnome-terminal
bug - I've been unable to replicate it while using unity2d and openbox.

At the very *least* we should have it documented that this bug doesn't
appear in openbox/unity2d, so if you're looking for a temporary solution
that's it.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-04 Thread Colin Law
xdpyinfo.out attached.
To try xfwm4 do I just install it?  Also how do I get back?

** Attachment added: xdpyinfo.out
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/788607/+attachment/2505397/+files/xdpyinfo.out

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-03 Thread Colin Law
@Michael: To clarify, is your comment about bug 824099 just the 3D
issue, and so is not directly relevant to the symptoms of this 2D bug?

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-03 Thread Michał Sawicz
@Colin it's basically the same issue, max texture size being smaller
than your desktop width. The bug linked above describes the approach
taken in u3d, which probably needs to apply in u2d, too.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-03 Thread Colin Law
@Michael could you clarify what that approach is?  There is quite a lot
of noise in that thread and I am not sure which posts are relevant to
2D.  Comment #18 seems to be suggesting that the fix is to not allow
configuration of multi-head setup large enough that the problem is seen.
Does this mean I would not be able to use Unity-2D in that case?
Hopefully I am mis-reading this as I would much prefer the current
workaround, which is to disable compositing, which only leads to minor
display corruption.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-03 Thread Michał Sawicz
Well, sure, without compositing we're pink, but with compositing there's
one texture spanning the whole desktop area, and if the desktop area is
too big, we're stumbling. And there's no (easy) way to circumvent that.

So yes, sorry, but the current situation is that we'll prevent having
such a setup that causes a broken compositing environment.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-03 Thread Colin Law
I cannot believe I am reading this.  We are going to go from the situation 
where I can use Ubuntu 11.10 with a laptop with external monitor with minor 
display corruption by switching off compositing, to the situation where I will 
not be able use 11.10 with the external monitor at all?
I hope this is well advertised so people who will find themselves in my 
situation do not upgrade.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-03 Thread Florian Boucault
I think there was either an overstatement or a misreading :) It is and will 
still be possible to deactivate compositing via the usual GConf key. I hope 
that clears it up.
In the meantime I think this matters deserves more investigation than just 
saying it's the same issue as when using OpenGL composition. Metacity uses 
XRender to do the compositing and has very different code paths to Compiz. I 
know that ultimately it might be the same underlying issue with the hw/drivers 
but I believe it requires digging.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-03 Thread Florian Boucault
@Colin: do you mind trying with xfwm4 instead of metacity. It has a
compositor as well and an option I still need to find to activate it. If
it works well it could give us a great hint at what is wrong with
metacity's.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-10-03 Thread Florian Boucault
@Colin: could you attach the output of xdpyinfo please?

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-09-30 Thread Michał Sawicz
Please see bug 824099 for a discussion on what can be done here.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-09-29 Thread Florian Boucault
** Changed in: unity-2d
Milestone: 4.12 = 4.14

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-09-22 Thread Didier Roche
** Changed in: unity-2d
Milestone: 4.10 = 4.12

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-09-19 Thread Michał Sawicz
@Colin can you confirm that you're still seeing this? I can't reproduce
on two different setups.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-09-19 Thread Colin Law
Yes, I am still seeing it, with
gconftool --set --type bool /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager true
then if I slide a terminal window over another window, then select the 
underneath window the terminal window stays on top.  It is not selectable 
however, mouse and keyboard go through to the underlying window.
gconftool --set --type bool /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager false
removes the problem (but introduces others).

I reported previously that I only see the problem when I have dual
monitors (extended mode).  In fact it only happens if the virtual
desktop is 2048 wide (or thereabouts).  If I configure both displays as
1024x768 it is ok, but with greater resolution I see the issue.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-09-19 Thread Michał Sawicz
OK, got it on a netbook and 2048+ wide extended desktop. The terminal
window is drawn without opacity (it's rectangular, the not-rounded-
anymore corners are ~black).

What's more, on unity-3d, when I get a screen that wide, the desktop
basically breaks and plays dead.

This is on a Atom netbook, Intel N10, so it seems consistent that this
issue comes with lower end intel chips.

@Colin can you confirm that U3D still works as expected? @Sabin, you
too, please?

To me it looks more and more as a hardware / driver issue.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-09-19 Thread Colin Law
@Michal: The reason it goes apparently dead on 3D is that 3D will not
work on the chipset with  2048 width as the hardware does not support
the extensions at that resolution.  That is why I have to use 2D :)  So
no, I cannot confirm that it is ok on U3D.

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Re: [Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-09-19 Thread Sabin Iacob
On 09/19/2011 05:04 PM, Michał Sawicz wrote:
 OK, got it on a netbook and 2048+ wide extended desktop. The terminal
 window is drawn without opacity (it's rectangular, the not-rounded-
 anymore corners are ~black).

 What's more, on unity-3d, when I get a screen that wide, the desktop
 basically breaks and plays dead.

 This is on a Atom netbook, Intel N10, so it seems consistent that this
 issue comes with lower end intel chips.

 @Colin can you confirm that U3D still works as expected? @Sabin, you
 too, please?

 To me it looks more and more as a hardware / driver issue.

Unity 3D (Compiz, actually) is unusable on dual monitors if the desktop 
exceeds the maximum texture size (which, for Intel cards and a few 
others, is 2048x2048); Unity 2D is ok if I don't use compositing (apart 
from some artefacts that are drawn on the primary monitor when the 
secondary/external one displays a menu), gnome terminal is drawn on top 
of everything otherwise.

While it may be a hardware limitation (Intel seems to have made a habit 
out of this, Atom chips can't use more than 2G of RAM, for instance), is 
it really that hard to paint separate monitors in separate textures? 
(disclaimer: I don't know what I'm talking about, I know nil about the 
way compositing is done).

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-09-15 Thread Didier Roche
** Changed in: unity-2d
Milestone: 4.8 = 4.10

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-09-11 Thread Colin Law
Anyone using the workaround
gconftool --set --type bool /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager false
to avoid the symptom might like to know that, for me, this causes odd effects 
with drop down boxes from indicators on the panel clearing an equivalent area 
on the other screen to the background image (in dual screen mode).  See bug 
#846528.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-09-08 Thread Didier Roche
** Changed in: unity-2d
Milestone: 4.6 = 4.8

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-09-01 Thread Didier Roche
** Changed in: unity-2d
Milestone: 4.4 = 4.6

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-08-25 Thread Florian Boucault
** Changed in: unity-2d
Milestone: 4.2 = 4.4

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-08-11 Thread Didier Roche
** Changed in: unity-2d
Milestone: 4.0 = 4.2

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-08-01 Thread Didier Roche
** Changed in: unity-2d
Milestone: 3.8.14 = 3.8.16

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-07-28 Thread Didier Roche
** Changed in: unity-2d
Milestone: 3.8.12 = 3.8.14

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-07-14 Thread Sabin Iacob
new laptop here (eeepc 1015pn with the Intel graphics card active, as
the nVidia chip doesn't seem to support dual monitors), same problem;
attaching lspci output (it's an Intel N10 chip)

** Attachment added: lspci.txt
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/788607/+attachment/2207517/+files/lspci.txt

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-07-13 Thread Florian Boucault
Confirming per duplicate.

** Changed in: unity-2d
   Status: New = Confirmed

** Changed in: unity-2d
Milestone: None = 3.8.12

** Changed in: unity-2d (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-07-04 Thread Florian Boucault
** Changed in: unity-2d
   Status: Incomplete = New

** Changed in: unity-2d
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Tags added: compositing

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-06-13 Thread Florian Boucault
Compositing gives us a few useful features:
- real transparent backgrounds for windows, for example, the launcher and the 
dash
- antialiased shaped windows, for example the tooltips/contextual menus of the 
launcher
- easier access to window previews as used in the spread (= workspace switcher)

Losing it is going to be a problem I think.
Can you describe what kind of hardware you have, especially what graphics card 
you are using?

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-06-13 Thread Colin Law
It is a Toshiba Satellite A100-197 laptop.  For the graphics lshw shows
Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller.

If I reduce the resolution on the second monitor such that the virtual
display is less than 2048 (or thereabouts) then the problem disappears.

The problem only appeared following an upgrade but I do not know exactly
which version it appeared at.  If necessary I could revert to earlier
versions to determine exactly when it was introduced if someone can tell
me how to do that.

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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-05-31 Thread Colin Law
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[Bug 788607] Re: gnome terminal hiding other windows and screensaver with dual screens

2011-05-31 Thread Colin Law
gconftool --set --type bool /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager false
has removed the problem, the terminal window now disappears  behind other 
windows as it should.  Am I going to be missing something however?  I am not 
clear what compositing is all about in this context.
Thanks for the help.

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