[Bug 814316] Re: Natty's kernel update 2.6.38-11 kills network card config

2011-07-22 Thread Thijs van Dijk
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[Bug 814316] Re: Natty's kernel update 2.6.38-11 kills network card config

2011-07-22 Thread Paulo Cheadi Haddad Filho
Will I have to do this procedure every time Ubuntu updates its kernel and 
misconfigure the network?
Isn't it a case of updating the driver Ubuntu ships with?

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[Bug 814316] Re: Natty's kernel update 2.6.38-11 kills network card config

2011-07-22 Thread Daniel Manrique
Hi Paulo,

As it stands you will indeed have to update your driver for every new
kernel.

However, there's a mechanism called dkms that will take care of
automatically compiling and installing the driver when you update your
kernel. Look for instructions here:

http://djlab.com/2010/10/fixing-rtl8111-8168b-driver-debian-ubuntu/

I looked at possible related bug reports and I see no work being done to
include the r8168 driver in the kernel, maybe there's some problem with
Realtek's driver code or its licensing terms that preclude its inclusion
in the Linux kernel. It's about the only plausible explanation for this
omission. So for the time being the dkms solution is probably the safest
way to go.


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[Bug 814316] Re: Natty's kernel update 2.6.38-11 kills network card config

2011-07-22 Thread Paulo Cheadi Haddad Filho
Daniel!

Firstly, thanks for your patience for sticking together until here.
Indeed, your explanation for the omission convinced me. That's so
frustrating! =/

And your link was good enough and then I made what it says. I will wait
until the next kernel release to test its changes.

I hope this thread could help many others in this situation in the
future (at least until a fix be released). I missed links about this
problem when I had it for the first time.

Thank you so much! Over and out!

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[Bug 814316] Re: Natty's kernel update 2.6.38-11 kills network card config

2011-07-21 Thread Paulo Cheadi Haddad Filho
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[Bug 814316] Re: Natty's kernel update 2.6.38-11 kills network card config

2011-07-21 Thread Daniel Manrique
Hello Paulo,

Thanks for sending this updated report!

Now, if I understand correctly:

1- Your card didn't work with the 2.6.38-10 kernel.
2- You followed the instructions you linked to, which have you compiling a 
driver from source code.
3- You upgraded to the 2.6.38-11 kernel.
4- Now your network card doesn't work.

If this sequence of events is correct, the missing part is that when you
compile a driver from source code, it's kernel version-specific, this
means that if you upgraded to a different kernel (even just the
difference between 2.6.38-10 and 2.6.38-11), you need to recompile the
driver from source, basically redoing steps 4, 5, 6 and 8 (7 is not
necessary as blacklisting drivers does carry over from one kernel
version to the next, this is also why you probably don't have the r8169
driver anymore, as in step 2 of the post's instructions to verify the
r8169 driver).

Could you tell me whether I understood correctly, and if so, whether
trying to recompile the driver makes it work again?

Thanks!

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[Bug 814316] Re: Natty's kernel update 2.6.38-11 kills network card config

2011-07-21 Thread Paulo Cheadi Haddad Filho
Hey Daniel!

It's about like that. What I can say that I understood, in a non-expert
view, is:

1) No, my card did work with 2.6.38-10 kernel. It was doing it randomly.
That link I refer says that Ubuntu automatic config does not get a good
driver, or something like that.

2) Yes, the link proposes to put the driver that Ubuntu used in
blacklist and update using the linked at Realtek's website, so I did
this.

3) Yes, I did the update normally using Synaptic. A post-observation
(and the problem that gave me some crisis) was that I had set the -10
kernel to completely removal, but lukily it didn't get it. I don't know
why but after a couple hours I realised that the packages were there
yet, and so I could install them again and give these info to you.

4) Yes, -11 kernel does not find the network card.

Strangely, I think the kernel had updated between the time I compiled
the driver and yesterday, so this is the cause of my surprise and
inspired me to post here.

Good to know the blacklist part isn't required, but if I skip that step
would the driver for r8169 be that one that caused me trouble in -10
kernel? Is this problem a very specific one?

I'm going to try to recompile the driver now. I'm going to be back later
with your answer. ;)


Thanks!

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[Bug 814316] Re: Natty's kernel update 2.6.38-11 kills network card config

2011-07-21 Thread Paulo Cheadi Haddad Filho
FYI, I followed those instructions again and it did work. =)

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