Re: [Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
The sad part of all this is that a lot of people are used to US-intl generating a cedilla when accent+C is used. Curiously, there's a "New US Intl" layout that does the same as the "regular" US-Intl. I think the cleanest solution would be to have an "Old US Intl" or "Legacy US-Intl" that would generate a cedilla on accent+c. 2010/2/18 Flávio Etrusco : > Eduardo Ceretos' approach (if I understand it) is the correct one: to create > a different layout for 'Brazil' model and let US model alone. There several > completely different (and completely irrelevant) layouts for Brazil model > like all "Nativo" variants (I can't speak for Dvorak and Esperanto, these > Nativo variants are complete nonsense), there should be a "Brazil with US > Intl". > OT rant: wth doesn't the combo navigate work naviagate when you press a char? > OT rant2: when will gtk finally that popup/combo scroll bug? > > -- > C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Eduardo Ceretos' approach (if I understand it) is the correct one: to create a different layout for 'Brazil' model and let US model alone. There several completely different (and completely irrelevant) layouts for Brazil model like all "Nativo" variants (I can't speak for Dvorak and Esperanto, these Nativo variants are complete nonsense), there should be a "Brazil with US Intl". OT rant: wth doesn't the combo navigate work naviagate when you press a char? OT rant2: when will gtk finally that popup/combo scroll bug? -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Assignee: Eduardo Cereto (dudus) => (unassigned) -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Eduardo, Maybe slovenian, turkish and other languages that use "ć" will be affected. Still the argument remains: Ubuntu should follow Microsoft standard for easier adoption of the O.S. We're at over 2 years since I opened this BUG, resolution is simple, yet I must ask why nothing has been done yet. Regards, Cenora -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
I must agree this bug's title should be "C-cedilla in us-intl layout not where Windows users expect it". I've now grown used to typinh AltGr + , + C to get my cedillas, and everytime i convert someone I explain the difference. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
I included Tiago's comment on upstream bug. Please use the upstream bug to include future comments and follow bug resolution. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15900 -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
besides Brazilians, Canadians and possibly French and Portuguese - who else is affected by this bug? -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Watch out, it's not just Brazilians that are used with the US-int layout like that... In the comments of this bug there is a Canadian saying that they do the same when typing French in USian keyboards... Isn't there a formal definition of how must the US-International layout behave? Who is "wrong", Microsoft or Ubuntu? Honestly, I think that if Microsoft made their keyboard layout like that, probably in the regions of the world where the Ć is needed people use different keyboard layouts... does anyone have a clue about this? I think Ubuntu could simply make just like Microsoft, or even create a new US-M$International layout or something - specially if it's them that do not follow the specification. Associating with Brazil seems weird to me... -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
** Changed in: xkeyboard-config Status: Unknown => Confirmed -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
** Also affects: xkeyboard-config via https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15900 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
the last debdiff I posted is very broken, looks like I'm too n00b to make a debdiff. It doesn't matter as the deb diff is very useless anyway. Also I moved this bug upstream: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15900 -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
here's the debdiff of the package I created. please note that while this fixes the cedilla issue it breaks acute characters. So the patch is mostly useless and should not be used as a solution or workaround. I'm posting this only for information. ** Attachment added: "xkeyboard-config_1.1~cvs.20080104.1-1ubuntu7.debdiff" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14357622/xkeyboard-config_1.1%7Ecvs.20080104.1-1ubuntu7.debdiff ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Eduardo Cereto (dudus) ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => In Progress -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
I spent the last days trying to patch xkeyboard-config in order to create a new variant br(br-intl). Even so I had a hard time with symbols files. when I set the key to dead_cedilla it does work outputing ç an Ç but then it won't output á,é,í,ó and ú. I want the key to be dead_cedilla when the next key is c and to be dead_acute when the next key is either a,e,i,o and u. So the ´ key would work as supposed. I heard some guys on irc saying that to fix this issue you should change LANG on /etc/environment to pt_BR.UTF-8. But it didn't work for me. Don't know exactly how this locale stuff works. it would be good if someone steps up to mentor this bug for me. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Also I think that this bug should be changed to High Importance. An estimated 40% of brazilian users simply won't be able to write a document as no one expect c-cedil to be under altgr+,. Has a moderate impact on a large portion of Ubuntu users (estimated) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
I understand jcfp point. And it's good. US-intl should be as international as possible. But lets get to the facts. Brazil has two types of main keyboards. ABNT2 that has the c-cedil key, and US-intl that just maps the '+c to c-cedil. This sure represents circa 95% of brazilian keyboards. If you go to layout and choose Brazil, you get 7 variants, the default is ABNT2 wich represent circa 50%. But there's no variant that sets us- intl. When you install ubuntu it lets you choose between abnt2 or intl for brazil, and intl just doesn't work as supposed. Besides of getting ć instead of c-cedil I also get many other combination that simply doesn't exist in portuguese (ŕ, ý, ś, ń, ...). I really think that an Brazil - US - international should be created. This should sit in the keyboard preferences layout under: Layout: Brazil Variant: US-intl I never liked the idea that to configure my keyboard to portuguese I should go to US and choose International, maybe it's correct but it just doesn't feel right. I'm not expert in this area. But wouldn't it be better that under your country layout the variants were the ones that are used FOR that country? -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
This problem is really annoying and still it seems to be present in Hardy beta. I just wish that a proper solution would be presented for the user. I know how to fix it using the command line, but this is not a good solution for a distro that claims to be easy to use. Maybe an option to correct this should be shown in the keyboard configuration gui. I don't think that would be so hard to implement but one must remember to add that feature to the installer as well. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Paganini has expressed the true "problem" about this bug. While I agree with Yamal, in that we would "shift" the problem to our friends from Poland, Serbia, etc, the fact is that: *Most* people are "accustomed" to the Windows international keyboard behavior. Although there is no defined standard, the effect is that when we install Ubuntu for our family and friends they expect it to work about the same way they are used to. If they encounter a small problem like this, they think: This thing doesn't work. My proposal is to follow the Windows "standard", to facilitate widespread adoption. Those are my 2 cents... Cenora On Dec 18, 2007 5:00 AM, paganini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Yamal, > > I agree with you that consistency is of paramount importance, specially > when dealing with a complicated subject such as internationalization. My > gripe, however, is not with the fact that acute+c does not generate a > cedilla, but rather, with the change in behavior of the widely known "US > International" keyboard in Windows and X11. IMHO, the "US_INTL old > version" (or whatever) should mimic this behavior, and the new variant > should produce the consistent "accented C". > > Note that this *really* stands in the way of widespread adoption of > Linux in Brazil. It is very hard to explain to newcomers that they have > to edit obscure files to get something they get "for free" with other > operating systems. > > Regards, > Paga > > -- > C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Hi Yamal, I agree with you that consistency is of paramount importance, specially when dealing with a complicated subject such as internationalization. My gripe, however, is not with the fact that acute+c does not generate a cedilla, but rather, with the change in behavior of the widely known "US International" keyboard in Windows and X11. IMHO, the "US_INTL old version" (or whatever) should mimic this behavior, and the new variant should produce the consistent "accented C". Note that this *really* stands in the way of widespread adoption of Linux in Brazil. It is very hard to explain to newcomers that they have to edit obscure files to get something they get "for free" with other operating systems. Regards, Paga -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
It seems that there's a common misconception about the us-intl keyboard layout on a qwerty keyboard being something 'brazilian', see the comment of L M Nicolosi (on 2007-11-02) which speaks of "a US Int Keyboard configured for English and Br-Portuguese". Such a thing doesn't exist. All there is, is a qwerty keyboard configured to use a generic 'US English (international)' layout. Nothing brazilian or portuguese about that; this very same layout is used all around the world. And many of those using it, do expect ć, ś, ŕ, ź, ń (as well as ĺ ḱ ṕ ý ǵ ḿ and so on) to be available on their keyboard in the most logical place, being «' + character = character w/ acute accent». In the specific case of ć, this letter exists in Polish, Serbian, Montenegrin, Croatian, Bosnian, and Albanian, as well as some latin representations of languages often written in cyrillic alphabets. As a result, changing the standard us-intl layout to have ' + c create ç, just to satisfy brazilian users migrating from windows would: - destroy the consistent use of «' + character = character with acute accent» for all others worldwide. - move the problem to those wanting to write the letter ć. The title of this bug report should be changed to reflect reality. Currently, it claims c-cedilla is missing from the layout entirely, which is not, and has never been the case. "C-cedilla in us-intl layout not where brazilian users migrating from windows expect it" would be a much more appropriate and correct description. While I don't know whether it's realistic, as a possible solution one could imagine a layout variant targeted at users wanting to write (brazilian) portuguese with a qwerty keyboard, either identical to us- intl but with cedilla replacing ć, or even customized to trigger only those accents actually used in portuguese. So basically, a us-intl- cedilla or br-qwerty layout variant (whatever the name, you get the idea), which would leave the standard us-intl intact and at the same time allow for this specific ç preference. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Raising importance to medium after reading back new comments. ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Importance: Low => Medium -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
If the Gnome developers don't want to change it, fine. But why not honor the GTK_IM_MODULE=xim setting as it was done before? I would not mind whatever twisted scheme someone who never spoke or wrote any portuguese devised for my keyboard, as long as I could bypass it freely (as it was the case in the past). Unfortunately, newer versions won't work that way. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Ok Volanin, I agree, It's a matter of standard, but why one would need ć, ś, ŕ, ź, ń in a US Int Keyboard configured for English and Br-Portuguese? And why I can't (can + " + space + t) use ' or " without a space after? To be able to put accents and tremas in every consonant? Ok I come from ancient DOS and MS-Win codepage 850, but I can't get the reason. Shouldn't I be using the default UTF-8? But then I couldn't read this page. Obrigado pela two step dica, Um abraĆo, Lucio -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
I totally agree with you cenora. The lack of usually accepted shortcut 'acute + c' to generate 'ç' is very annoying. The problem is: this shortcut is not a standard, so every operating system implements it as they see fit. In Windows we have the usual 'acute + c' In Linux we got the annoying 'AltGR + ,' And in MacOSX we have 'Alt + c' It a mess! Although, as a brazilian, I would also prefer the windows way, this is a thing that's being debated with GTK+ developers for years, (since RedHat 6 in 1999 if I remember correctly, 8 years already) and it seems it won't change so soon. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Great and simple workaround!!! Thanks!!! Although this is still not an excuse for Ubuntu... Why can't they simply add these lines? Itś a simple bug to fix. cenora On 10/22/07, Volanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > HOW TO FIX this in GUTSY in 2 steps: > > 1. Edit the file: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule- > files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules > > 2. Add your LOCALE to the end of the line beginning with "cedilla". > If you use Ubuntu in English, your locale is probably: en or en_US. > Add any LOCALE that you usually use as well. > > Original line: > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" > > Modified line: > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en:en_US" > > The effect is immediate. > You just need to restart your applications. > > -- > C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
HOW TO FIX this in GUTSY in 2 steps: 1. Edit the file: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule- files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules 2. Add your LOCALE to the end of the line beginning with "cedilla". If you use Ubuntu in English, your locale is probably: en or en_US. Add any LOCALE that you usually use as well. Original line: "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" Modified line: "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en:en_US" The effect is immediate. You just need to restart your applications. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Tank's Nicolosi. It seems it's not a ubuntu, but a debian bug. I recently move to Debian Sid, same bug here. Being debian a distro heavily used by the small Brazilian linux community it's understandable why nobody care about this annoying bug. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Re: last posting It seems that the last upgrades brought back a "/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose" full of cedillas in the wrong places, so last move was not enough to solve the puzzle. Edited the file as in (top): 1.Edit the file: /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose 2.Replace the occurences of the ć with ç, for both lower and uppercase. And cedillas are back again... -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Upgraded from 7.10 Gutsy Beta to RC w/ last fixes, it seems my cedillas are gone. File editing (above) that used to work in the past won't do. Need some help. L. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Upgraded to Gutsy-Beta (sept 2007) from 7.04 and the cedilla bug
returned.
Looked for files to edit and noticed that
"/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose" apparently was corrected but
couldn't find "/etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules".
Found instead "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-
files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules"
and although file header said: "# automatically generated by
dh_gtkmodules, do not edit"
edited as suggested (item 4 at the top):
{4.Find the line configuring "xim", and add the "en_US" and "en" locales there,
like this:
"/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/immodules/im-xim.so"
"xim" "X Input Method" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "ko:ja:th:zh:en_US:en"}
restarted system and got my cedillas back.
I'm not sure if it is the best way to correct the problem but it worked.
Although easily correctable (once you find the way) it doesn't seem to
me that it is a "low importance bug"
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[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
On my laptop (ibm x30) there is no AltGr key present (Ctrl+Alt together also doesn't work). So it is really a big pain not being able to type a "ç". Copying and pasting from somewhere else is the only solution, but a very ugly one. I'd also vote for having ć being replaced by ç. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
I speak three languages and live in Quebec where english and french co- exist with many other languages. I often suggest using this keyboard layout to cover all possible combination of accents, the ñ, ç, etc. This problem sure gets in the way of easy adoption of this keyboard layout, as such I would consider it a serious usability bug. Serious as in "I can't use this computer to type in french" :) -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Assigning "low" importance - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance ** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
The problem is persistent. US-international layout is still missing C-cedil. All we have is ć. On 6/17/07, revertex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > more than a year without cedilla, but finally i can get it working. > i used to use everything in english, but sometimes i need to write in > portuguese, without cedilla is really painful. > > -- > C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
more than a year without cedilla, but finally i can get it working. i used to use everything in english, but sometimes i need to write in portuguese, without cedilla is really painful. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed => Confirmed -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Júlio is right. Standard querty keyboards are very common is Brasil, so a great number home and small office users are just not able to switch to Ubuntu because of this issue. Tweaking /etc files is not for everyone. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
I must say that this behaviour is a let down for portuguese/brazilian users. At least for me (BR), I'm very well used to typing ' and C to produce Ç , and I really hope that someday this can work in ubuntu "out of the box" . After all, internationalization isn't a priority of this distro? When I give out free ubuntu CD's to my friends, I expect them to use it and enjoy it as much as I do - but it ruins my advocacy when one of them calls me to ask "why am I getting ć 's instead of ç 's when using OpenOffice"... not being able to TYPE correctly is surely a serious problem for me. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
in Feisty: Instead of: "3.Edit the file: /etc/gtk-2.0/i386-redhat-linux-gnu/gtk.immodules" Use: "3.Edit the file: /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules" It works perfectly, happy cedillas - ç -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/92652 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Ok, thanks I asked to close it and opened a request, as you suggested. On 3/16/07, Brian Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ** Changed in: Ubuntu > Sourcepackagename: None => xkeyboard-config > > -- > C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard > https://launchpad.net/bugs/92652 > -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://launchpad.net/bugs/92652 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
PLEASE CLOSE this Bug. Will need to request support at https://answers.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+tickets. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://launchpad.net/bugs/92652 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
** Changed in: Ubuntu Sourcepackagename: None => xkeyboard-config -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://launchpad.net/bugs/92652 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
It may well be possible to do that, maybe using xmodmap? I would suggest opening a support request for that at https://answers.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+tickets and closing this bug report. btw: us alt-intl layout does differ from intl in the way it handles "ALTGR + ," by making that a dead key for creating a cedilla with alot of letters rather than print ç directly. -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://launchpad.net/bugs/92652 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
Yamal: Can there be a way to set up the Ç as " ' " (apostrophe) + "c" ? That is what the Microsoft US-international keyboard does. The Ubuntu US-Alternative also has the same accented C as default, so there are 2 of the same options. This is useful for Portuguese (PT and BR) typing in the standard qwerty US-keyboard. Cenora On 3/15/07, yamal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in us-intl layout ç is ALTGR + , (right-alt + comma) > > -- > C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard > https://launchpad.net/bugs/92652 > -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://launchpad.net/bugs/92652 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 92652] Re: C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard
in us-intl layout ç is ALTGR + , (right-alt + comma) -- C-cedil not present in US-International keyboard https://launchpad.net/bugs/92652 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
