[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-05-21 Thread Daniel van Vugt
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 729979 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/729979

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
Ubuntu better. This particular bug has already been reported and is a
duplicate of bug 729979, so it is being marked as such. Please look at
the other bug report to see if there is any missing information that you
can provide, or to see if there is a workaround for the bug.
Additionally, any further discussion regarding the bug should occur in
the other report. Feel free to continue to report any other bugs you may
find.


** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 729979
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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-05-21 Thread Daniel van Vugt
This bug is still an issue for a few people and is still open here -->
bug 976189

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-05-06 Thread Edward Donovan
Ok!  It took a while, but I've filed Bug #995659 .  It's focused on the
Alt-` behavior.

Rainer, thank you for confirming that.  And for reminding me that it's
clearer to call it Alt-` more than Alt-Grave.  (You have to spell out
Alt-Tab, and I think that got me in that mindset.)

Anyone who sees that problem is invited to mark that bug as affecting
you, and add any insight you may have.

Anyone who's still seeing blank windows, with other behavior, try to
make (or find) a bug report defining that.  From what Didier says, it's
better not to re-open this one, but if you link to a new report,  here,
I will try to see if I can reproduce it.   (On my GeForce GT 240.)

Thanks!

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-05-02 Thread Rainer Rohde
In-line with comment #56, I can confirm that the Alt-` (grave accent)
window switch produces a blank window several times in a row, while Alt-
Tab and maximizing by mouse works just fine.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-05-01 Thread Edward Donovan
Another bug has been sucking up my bug-fixing time, but I still plan to
file a new one.

For now, the main thing I have noted: restoring minimized windows with
the Alt-Grave key is where I get blank windows.  Restoring with the
mouse, or with plain Alt-Tab does not.  Alt-Grave does not do it every
time; usually within three cycles of minimize-restore.  It can happen,
on my system at least, when video memory is mostly free, according to
nvidia-smi.  I haven't been able to correlate the bug with video memory
levels, here.  Thanks.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-24 Thread Edward Donovan
Didier, thanks for the guidance.  I'll do that, and link the new bug in
the comments here.  Maybe not today, but hopefully soon.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-23 Thread Didier Roche
@Edward: I suggest that you open another bug report describing exactly
the condition for the remaining issues (quite a lot of noise in that bug
report). I'll then have a look at it and see if it can be worked for a
stable release update :)

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-23 Thread Edward Donovan
This could be a candidate for a "Known Issues" list, for 12.04.0.  I'll
try to learn how that happens.  Of course if we can't even get the bug
opened again right now, maybe that's wishful thinking.  :)

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-22 Thread Edward Donovan
On an unrelated report (bug 982767), I had the chance to ask release
expert Steve Langasek about current bugs and Thursday's release.  He
said:

"Any fixes in this area will not make it for 12.04.0. They will be
considered for inclusion in 12.04.1."

That was a different piece if software, but I'll guess it probably
applies to this, too, and would answer my question about urgency.
Thanks.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-22 Thread Edward Donovan
I wish I knew the release process better.  I'd kind of like to know
whether we should work with great urgency, to try to make Precise, or
whether it's really too late for that, and any fix would go out in an
update, and we can be a bit calmer.

I have to step away again, but I just saw Scott's new insight, and will
try to dig more, along those lines, later.  Thanks.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-22 Thread Edward Donovan
Thanks for testing again, Shayne.  I think it's pretty common to re-open
bugs when necessary, and since you're seeing it too, I would definitely
change it.  (Probably to 'Triaged'.)

I would change it myself, if Launchpad would let me.  As the original
reporter, I think you can, and I think that's fine.  (In a quick look,
bug 631 shows that reporters are authorized to do this. :)

I don't have any clear idea, yet, of whether there's been any regression
in the code, since the time it looked fixed to us; that is, if it got
really fixed and then broken again.   Or whether it was just partially
fixed, and took longer to reproduce.  Probably the latter.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-22 Thread Scott Nicholls
I can't seem to mark this as not fixed - all the options are greyed out.

Upon further testing, the blank windows when restoring a minimised
window (regardless of being maximised) seems to be being caused by the
animation. Since removing the animation on minimise/restore in the
plugin, it no longer happens, even when the video memory is almost full
(990/1023MiB).

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-22 Thread shayne lucas
I also get the blank windows now when maximizing with the keyboard
shortcut but i can't reproduce when using the mouse.I  have a nvidia
geforce 210 with only 512mb and occasionally it's a little sluggish when
windows maximize etc.Does anyone know if i can mark this as not fixed?

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-22 Thread Edward Donovan
Thanks, FuzzyQ, and you're welcome, and, hey -- if we're a little off-
topic, I started it. :)

I want to note that, currently, the windows never show blank in the
spread view.  Which I think they were, in my earlier round of symptoms,
and there were bug reports related to that, too.

So at the moment, I don't see blank windows in the spread, or at any
time other that following maximize->minimize.  This may differ from
symptoms seen by others.  Have no ideas about this, yet.

(Now will attempt bedtime, then tomorrow will befall me, so pardons if I
don't pick up the thread promptly.  Thanks.)

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-22 Thread FuzzyQ
Edward, somehow I must have missed your very long post adressing me, so sorry 
for not answering earlier. 
There was no offense taken, it's just that I'm still very new to this community 
and haven't found my way around, yet.
My experience so far was that there already is a bug report (or even a fix) for 
every problem I possibly can come up with, so I already try my best to find the 
one bug report that matches my problem best instead of posting the 20th report 
describing the same issue.
I understand and wholeheartly agree with your statement that a bug report 
should be as precise as possible though.

In general, I find this community to be very friendly and forthcoming and wish 
to contribute to the perfection of ubuntu as good as I can (which probably 
isn't of much worth, compared to your skills or these of most other users 
here). 
Again, thank you for your time and your many kind words, they were well 
received.

Ugh, sorry for off-topic :-/

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-22 Thread FuzzyQ
I'm still positive that my experiences and yours are related.
Furthermore, I find Scott's theory very interesting. I'm running Ubuntu
on a Samsung R710 laptop, my graphical memory is only 512MiB. I'm
getting these blank-outs quite often, especially when the whole system
is outmaxed.

I'm experiencing black-outs every now and then when restoring minimized 
windows. When the restored one was maximized, sometimes you can see the ones 
behind blank out. They restore when the focused window is minimized again.
When handling small (not maximized) windows, the effect is more visible. It 
doesn't make a difference how you restore the window, it just happens randomly.
 
Open ccsm, go to Animations -> tab Focus Animation -> under Animation Selection 
click the only entry -> set focus effect to Dogde and duration to something 
between 300 ... 500. You will then have the effect I've been talking about 
earlier. Windows will blank out much more often when raised into focus now.

It seems that every time a window has to be animated when raised into
focus, this issue might occur, no matter how it is activated. Perhaps
the animation effects cost too much video memory.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-22 Thread Edward Donovan
Scott, thank you -- boy, that is the smarter thinking I was wishing for.
I had just come back, to note that my attempts to get a well-focused bug
definition were falling apart.  I actually tried to search for similar-
but-open bugs, just now, but Launchpad was timing out on searches.  I
don't know what's best, but re-opening this one now seems probably as
good as anything else.

I can't look into the video memory numbers on my box, right now, but
maybe later.  Maybe it's in better hands with you, anyway.  :)

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-22 Thread Scott Nicholls
I've done some more testing on this, and found the following:

- Minimising windows go blank as soon as the button is clicked. (I have
slightly slower animations, so I can easily see this - it's pretty
gruesome).

- Restoring windows seem to go blank when the video memory is low
(around the 900/1023MiB mark, according to nvidia-smi).

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-21 Thread Edward Donovan
Cripes!

I am getting blank windows on restore, again.

* It doesn't happen every time, now.

* It's only windows that were maximized, then minimized.  So not exactly
the same as Fuzzy or Scott report.  Which is frustrating! :)

* It has only happened when switching back to minimized windows with the
keyboard.  I haven't been able to reproduce it, when clicking on the
launcher, yet.  Which is different that what we were seeing before.  It
has happened with Alt-Tab, and Alt-Grave (key above Tab).  Neither one
does it every time.  But keyboard, not mouse, is only distinctive
pattern I can see.

The most recent package that's changed is compiz, to version
0.9.7.6-0ubuntu2.  I have no idea if that upgrade was a regression, or
it just strikes very sporadically.  I'll try to downgrade later, to
test.

Shayne, or anyone else - if you want to test some more, try:

  maximize->minimize
  then flip back and forth with Alt-Tab and Alt-Grave a lot

Of course, this is probably what you're doing with your windows, anyway.
I can often see it within three tries.  But, again, not every time.

I don't have much idea what to think at this point.  (I can work around
this, but it seems a shame to release this way.)  I hope someone has
more clue.  Or that I get a lot smarter very fast. :-/

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-21 Thread Scott Nicholls
I'm still experiencing this, but I get it even when restoring non-
maximised windows. I'm running Unity 5.10.0 with NVIDIA 295.40 on a GTX
560 Ti.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-20 Thread Edward Donovan
In addition!  I didn't emphasize this: Nobody who fixed 938658 commented
on this page, or maybe even read it.  That's one of the big reasons your
shortest route to help is likely through a different bug report.  You
won't be missing anything here, just me writing a lot!  :)

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-20 Thread Edward Donovan
Oh, FuzzyQ, let me stress, there's no matter for apology, and this is
not a 'go away' message at all.  The clarity of a tightly-defined bug
case is a good thing.  Bug 938658 as it grew here built up a very
specific definition.   That's nice when you can get it, and the
narrowly-defined case seems to have been addressed.  As evidence, me and
Shayne's great minds apparently posted about this, around the same time.
;-)

Certainly related, I agree.  There have been a number of bugs with blank
windows (all on nvidia?  I'm not sure).  There were separate reports,
even after duplicate-marking, for minimized windows just showing blank
in the spread view.  And clearly there are ongoing problems.

If we can say:

  OK: maximize->minimize->restore is no longer a guarantee of a blank window.
  Now, what problem cases remain?  Just how are they defined and reproduced?

it helps manage the complexity.

Your friendly postings here are a fine way to compare your current
symptoms to others'.  From your helpful descriptions, the definition of
those problems sounds a little different, than the set here that seem
fixed.   If so, we can wipe this one off the chalkboard, and get a clean
slate for work on the next one.  The underlying connections will be
clearer to those who know the code, as I don't.

By 'we' in that sentence, I have to mean the community in general, but
if you find a recipe where I can start to reproduce these symptoms, I
will certainly subscribe to that bug, too.  In this case, I'll say, go
ahead and subscribe me to your bug, if you'd like, whether you find one
or start one.  I couldn't write it up, myself, 'cause I can't observe
it, yet.

Finally, I speak with no authority here; this is just how these things
usually work best, from my experience so far.  This is my
recommendation, for the best path to fixin' the problems you're seeing,
not to buzz off.  You don't have to buy it, either way.

And now I hope I have buried any seeming negativity in a flurry of
words, and perhaps droned you into a comforting slumber.  :-/

- Ed

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-20 Thread FuzzyQ
Alright, thank you Edward and Shayne for your time and sorry for posting
in the seemingly wrong bug report. I will search for the right one. I
can't help thinking that these bugs are related, though.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-19 Thread shayne lucas
FuzzyQ i can only think of a couple of things at this point

1.Type unity --version in a terminal and make sure you are running 5.10
2.Upload a video showing you are still having problems with windows blanking 
when you maximize from launcher.
3.The window focus problems are a different bug than this one, i suggest 
looking through the bug database and finding another similar report or start 
your own if you can't find another.

The developers are still polishing the unity bugs so be sure to update
every day and i'm sure it will be sorted before launch day.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-19 Thread Edward Donovan
oops: "see if you it it" -> see if you get it...  :)

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-19 Thread Edward Donovan
Fuzzy, thanks for that description.  I haven't tried 'dodge windows', so
you're right, it is a little confusing to me. :)  That's enabled through
CCSM?

If so, you might want to try clearing any custom settings you have,
moving config files out, if possible.  (I don't know where CCSM keeps
its settings.)  If that helps with the blanking, re-activate your
settings, one by one, and see if you it it again.  I have exactly no
idea whether that will accomplish anything.  :-0

I do think that if it persists, it deserves a separate bug report.  It
seems like all the blank windows noted here were produced by
maximize->minimize->restore.  And it happened every time, in these
cases.

If your symptoms aren't just the same as that, then I think a separate
bug makes the most sense.  Likewise, all the reporters of those symptoms
say they're fixed now, and aren't seeing just the ones you describe.  I
think!  If anyone is seeing the symptoms described in the post #34, or
knows of another bug about that, hopefully they'll speak up.

Thanks, FuzzyQ, and all.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-18 Thread FuzzyQ
Hello Shayne, thanks for your interest in my problem.
Blank windows upon maximizing from launcher occur only rarely, but it's 
definetly still there.
Much more often however, to a really unnerving extend, windows blank out after 
dodging effect took place, meaning that one window lies beneath another, gets 
activated, and either one or both of the two windows blank out.
I have the dodge animation (windows slidging to the background when another is 
being activated) in place, but the bug also appears after unabling this effect.
I hope my description isn't too confusing and may be of any help.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-18 Thread FuzzyQ
Hey Edward! No problem, you did the right thing. If I had found this bug
report earlier, I may have made a difference, but since noone seemed to
have any problems, it was a logical choice to mark the issue solved.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-18 Thread shayne lucas
Hey fuzzyq are you getting the blank window when maximizing an app from
the launcher or is it something else? I read in your description that
you get it on switching, can you elaborate more if possible. The last
time i ran ubuntu was just after unity 5.10 was released and i couldn't
reproduce this bug.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-18 Thread Edward Donovan
Dang; well, thank you for trying that.

I don't have any other ideas right now.  I don't know the code at all,
nor where in the code this was fixed (for some of us).

I was the one who marked this closed, since everything looked good for a
while.  I was going to re-open it, now.  But LP won't let me.  I thought
those priviliges were symmetrical; apparently I don't know Launchpad
well enough.  It's possible Shayne could re-open it, as the original
reporter, if we think that's called for.  But I don't even know; maybe
it would take more than regular user privileges at this point.

Sorry I can't do more, Fuzzy.  I'll be back if I think of anything.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-18 Thread FuzzyQ
Thank you very much for your answer, Edward!
I did as you hinted and tried the latest version from official repositories 
(also 295.40) but still, no luck :(
I've even tried the original driver from nvidia, but same result.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-17 Thread Edward Donovan
Fuzzy, if you're running the nvidia driver from a ppa, and not plain
Precise, then trying vanilla Precise, instead, is the only thought I
have.  I don't have any technical particulars behind that thought, just
hoping that you may see the fix, if you're running the exact same
packages.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-17 Thread FuzzyQ
I'm sorry but I can't confirm the fix is working. Still got blank
windows on switching.

Graphic Card: nvidia geforce 9800M GT
Driver version: 295.40 (from x-swat repository, nvidia-current)
Unity version: 5.10

Any help would be very much appreciated.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-12 Thread palimmo
Solved! ;)

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-12 Thread Edward Donovan
So, unity 5.10 is in the main repo now.  I think this is fixed.  If
anyone can still reproduce it, do re-open this.  Thanks.

Shayne, ghetto, I agree -- Precise and Unity are really coming along.
:)


** No longer affects: compiz

** Changed in: unity-distro-priority
   Status: New => Fix Released

** Changed in: unity
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-12 Thread ghettocottage
Updating to the 5.10 fixed this for me as well. That was the last issue
I was having with 12.04. I am loving Precise

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-11 Thread Edward Donovan
Yeah, I've updated to the latest from the Unity ppa, and I can't
reproduce it anymore.  Excellent.

I don't see a specific changelog entry that I can point to for this bug,
so I don't know whether the fix that did it was in the unity packages,
or the compiz ones.  I guess I'll remove the nvidia driver from the bug,
now, anyway.



** No longer affects: nvidia-drivers-ubuntu

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Re: [Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-11 Thread Ngassam Nkwenga
this was fix with Unity 5.10 ( yet from ppa)  good job !

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-11 Thread palimmo
I can always reproduce it with only one terminal window open.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-09 Thread Janne Kurri
Now that I tried it, I'm seeing the exact same thing as Edwin with
minimized windows.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-09 Thread Edwin
I hunted this one down after getting white windows without maximizing.

For me it happens to when I minimize windows for applications that have
more than one.

For instance, open two nautilus windows, minimize one, click the
launcher button and the minimized window is white in the expose view. If
you minimize all open nautilus windows, and click the launcher button,
then all windows come back up with only the last minimized one still
having its contents.

The same thing happens to Thunderbird with message windows too. Or any
other application.

I'm also on a fully updated 12.04 with nvidia-drivers.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-09 Thread shayne lucas
That's ok Edward i don't mind, this is pretty much the last unaddressed
bug i am experiencing in what is surely imho going to be the best linux
os to date.

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-08 Thread palimmo
With NVIDIA hardware and unity 5.10 from the testing ppa, the problem of
the invisible windows is NOT gone. I could reproduce it (i.e. with
Terminal).

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[Bug 938658] Re: [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

2012-04-07 Thread Edward Donovan
Well, I edited the title, to show that it's general, however you restore
the window.  Hope you don't mind, Shayne.


** Summary changed:

- [nvidia] Clicking minimized applications from launcher presents blank window
+ [nvidia] Restoring minimized applications presents blank window

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