Re: [Bug 626769] Re: Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s
On 09/09/2010 08:39 PM, Rafi wrote: In reviewing links, I discovered a typo, the ntrig calibration tool is at: lp:~utouch-team/utouch/ntrig-calibrator The link in the wiki is correct. Whoop! Thanks Rafi! d -- Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/626769 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 626769] Re: Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s
On 09/09/2010 03:00 PM, Rafi Rubin wrote: On 09/09/10 16:00, Duncan McGreggor wrote: On 09/09/2010 08:25 AM, Rafi Rubin wrote: Also sorry if I missed it, but what firmware version is installed on your machine? 4.7.17.20.7 Good to know. Are you getting more than four contacts from that device? I thought I was, but once I got over 4 fingers onthe screen, it was really just touchpoints bouncing from one finger to the next. -- Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/626769 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 626769] Re: Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s
On 09/09/2010 08:25 AM, Rafi wrote: Considering this is a possibly unknown model, please post the contents of the rdesc nodes (/sys/kernel/debug/hid/*:1B96:*/rdesc). Wasn't that supposed to be collected when you created the bug? That's the part of the ID for N-trig devices, yes? We can't add an apport hook for this until we have a general solution for all devices that we can use. In addition to evtest, be prepared to collect some samples from usbmon, so that we can confirm the thing is consistent with the older devices. Rafi, is there a way to perform this and the task above in the general case (so that apport hooks can push the info up to LP)? In fact... I've just created a ticket for this. Original context: bug #626769 Bug for this task: bug #635112 -- Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/626769 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 626769] Re: Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s
On 09/09/2010 08:25 AM, Rafi wrote: Considering this is a possibly unknown model, please post the contents of the rdesc nodes (/sys/kernel/debug/hid/*:1B96:*/rdesc). Wasn't that supposed to be collected when you created the bug? That's the part of the ID for N-trig devices, yes? We can't add an apport hook for this until we have a general solution for all devices that we can use. In addition to evtest, be prepared to collect some samples from usbmon, so that we can confirm the thing is consistent with the older devices. Rafi, is there a way to perform this and the task above in the general case (so that apport hooks can push the info up to LP)? In fact... I've just created a ticket for this. Original context: bug #626769 Bug for this task: bug #635112 -- Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/626769 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 626769] Re: Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s
bzr branch lp:~rafi-seas/+junk/ntrig_calib Calibration should take less than 1 minute to run. If it doesn't improve the first time, try once or twice more. If that still sucks, the windows ntrig control panel has another calibration routine that actually gives a bit of feedback (I don't really have a large enough sample space to decode the output reliably). And if that says all is good and it still sucks, look for firmware updates and complain to the manufacturers ;) As Henrik says, some traces might be helpful. Considering this is a possibly unknown model, please post the contents of the rdesc nodes (/sys/kernel/debug/hid/*:1B96:*/rdesc). Wasn't that supposed to be collected when you created the bug? In addition to evtest, be prepared to collect some samples from usbmon, so that we can confirm the thing is consistent with the older devices. Also sorry if I missed it, but what firmware version is installed on your machine? -- Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/626769 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 626769] Re: Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s
On 09/09/2010 08:25 AM, Rafi Rubin wrote: bzr branch lp:~rafi-seas/+junk/ntrig_calib Rafi, this has been moved here: lp:~utouch-team/utouch/ntrig-calibration Could you please do further development against the team branch, and not one stored in your junk folder? Thanks ;-) I've merged your latest there, btw. Also, this was announced as the official location for this tool on the public mail list... don't want folks missing out an all your latest and greatest changes! Calibration should take less than 1 minute to run. Fantastic. For those that want to do calibration in the future, I've put together a small how-to on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Calibration/Ntrig If it doesn't improve the first time, It did! All the dead spots are gone when I test with mtview!! It's like having a whole new device. Thanks! As Henrik says, some traces might be helpful. Yup, provided that. Also sorry if I missed it, but what firmware version is installed on your machine? 4.7.17.20.7 Thanks again! -- Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/626769 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 626769] Re: Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s
Calibration should take less than 1 minute to run. Fantastic. For those that want to do calibration in the future, I've put together a small how-to on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Calibration/Ntrig Very nice ! Also sorry if I missed it, but what firmware version is installed on your machine? 4.7.17.20.7 This seems the newest ntrig firmware up to now ! -- Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/626769 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 626769] Re: Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s
I watched the video. I understand more now. it looks a small mapping problem in mtview rather than something in the ntrig driver/fw ! The mtview supposes the window in fullscreen and doesn't detect if the window is placed somewhere in the screen. For unity, you have the bar on the Left which takes ~100px. The topbar is also counted. it's a small problem of mapping raw hw input to the output. Duncan, try running the Gnome DE and you'll probably see that you'll no more have the problem of unity pixels (misplaced pixels in right). i On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Duncan McGreggor dun...@ubuntu.com wrote: Here's the movie I had mentioned. ** Attachment added: movie of mtview showing issues with Lenovo T410s https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/utouch-grail/+bug/626769/+attachment/1558055/+files/20100908_001.mp4 -- Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/626769 You received this bug notification because you are a member of uTouch Team, which is subscribed to utouch-grail. -- Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/626769 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 626769] Re: Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s
is this problem only found in the T410s ? I tested on my hp tx2 and I haven't figured any problem or ghost contacts. Why we lose ntrig as a mt driver just for one hardware failure case ? -- Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/626769 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 626769] Re: Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s
I'll test several times to see if any problem occurs. But I haven't noticed this problem before (I still have no problems with the hp tx2). Can you post some mtview screenshots to see how it exactly occurs on the T410s ? -- Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/626769 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 626769] Re: Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s
Does a normal calibration resolves the problem ? http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xinput_calibrator http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xinput_calibrator i On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Duncan McGreggor dun...@ubuntu.com wrote: ** Also affects: utouch-grail (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/626769 You received this bug notification because you are a member of uTouch Team, which is subscribed to utouch-grail. -- Work around possible touch hardware issues in Lenovo T410s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/626769 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs