Re: [Bug 79289] Re: drag&drop moving of message does not work

2008-02-06 Thread Rimas Kudelis
Seth rašė:
> Anywyas, I
> can live with using thunderbird without alltray when reorganizing my
> mailbox. Also, I'll see whether options/alternatives exist to make
> thunderbird run in the system tray. I imagine both KDE and thunderbird
> are prone to have this feature natively by now.

There's an extension called "New Mail Icon" which you can configure to
always display an icon in the system tray.

Check out http://moztraybiff.mozdev.org/ .

RQ

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Re: [Bug 79289] Re: drag&drop moving of message does not work

2008-02-05 Thread Rimas Kudelis
Seth, here's my current pstree. DnD works in it:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ pstree -u rq
bonobo-activati───{bonobo-activati}

dbus-daemon

deskbar-applet───2*[{deskbar-applet}]

evolution-data-───{evolution-data-}

evolution-excha───{evolution-excha}

fast-user-switc

gconfd-2

gnome-session─┬─bluetooth-apple
  ├─gnome-panel
  ├─metacity
  ├─nautilus
  ├─pidgin───{pidgin}
  ├─python
  ├─seahorse-agent───{seahorse-agent}
  ├─skype───9*[{skype}]
  ├─2*[ssh-agent]
  ├─trackerd───2*[{trackerd}]
  ├─update-notifier
  ├─vino-session
  └─{gnome-session}

gnome-keyring-d

gnome-netstatus

gnome-power-man

gnome-screensav

gnome-settings-───{gnome-settings-}

gnome-terminal─┬─bash───pstree
   ├─gnome-pty-helpe
   └─{gnome-terminal}

gnome-vfs-daemo───{gnome-vfs-daemo}

gnome-volume-ma

gweather-applet

mapping-daemon

mixer_applet2───{mixer_applet2}

multiload-apple

notification-da

rhythmbox───8*[{rhythmbox}]

seahorse-daemon

thunderbird───run-mozilla.sh───thunderbird-bin───14*[{thunderbird-bin}]

trashapplet

tsclient-applet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $

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Re: [Bug 79289] Re: drag&drop moving of message does not work

2008-02-05 Thread Seth
Ok, followup:

i tested with

sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
export DISPLAY=:0
X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& kwin&

export DISPLAY=:1
X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& kwin&

export DISPLAY=:0
X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& compiz&

export DISPLAY=:1
X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& compiz&

All four scenarios: drag-and-drop works like a charm. There must be some 
other process/config that is interfering (I'm guessing on the Gtk 
level). I'm at a loss on how to proceed finding the culprit. Can I bore 
you with a process list? I'll list the processess as running in the  
last config shown above ( X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& compiz&) as compiz is 
my default window manager, first:

==[ pstree -u sehe ]
gconfd-2

bash---pstree

bash-+-Xorg(root)
 |-compiz-+-compiz.real
 |`-emerald
 
`-thunderbird---run-mozilla.sh---thunderbird-bin---9*[{thunderbird-bin}]

=

Next: a dump of processess from my 'normal' (kdm) session:

==[ pstree -u sehe ]
adept_notifier
artsd
dbus-daemon
dbus-launch
dcopserver
gconfd-2
kded

kdeinit─┬─alltray
├─karm
├─katapult───aspell
├─kblueplugd
├─kio_file
├─kio_media
├─kio_system
├─kio_trash
├─klauncher
├─knetworkmanager───knetworkmanager
├─4*[konqueror]
├─konsole───bash───pstree
├─python
└─smart-notifier

kdesktop───sh───compiz─┬─compiz.real
   └─emerald

startkde─┬─kwrapper
 └─ssh-agent

kicker
kio_uiserver
klipper
kmix
knotes
knotify
ksmserver

bash

thunderbird───run-mozilla.sh───thunderbird-bin───9*[{thunderbird-bin}]

=

Is there anything in the list that you don't have running? I could see 
if I could launch that in isolation again to see whether it breaks 
drag-and-drop. Right now the list is a bit too long, and many programs 
probably non-trivail to launch manually :)

Cheers,
Seth

Seth wrote:
> Rimas,
>
> nope I just hovered about a full minute (I'm on the phone waiting :))
> nothing changed. Thanks for confirming that you have it working. Do you 
> mind if I braindump anything special about my machine/config?
>
> Here goes
> - it is KDE 3.5.8
> - Linux sehe-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 
> 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
> - Thunderbird version 2.0.0.6 (20071022)
>
> also (drumroll) I just remembered I have a potentially unusual X 
> config, in that kdmrc contains (among others :))
>
> StaticServers=:0,:1
>
> This simply means, that I don't have to manually launch a second X 
> terminal. I use both terminals on a single display, switching with 
> Ctrl-Alt-F7/F8/F9 etc - no heroics on driver level.
>
> As it happens, :1 is "my" desktop (:0 being my wife's :)). Now it 
> shouldn't, but it might influence the inner workings of drag and drop - 
> being X-based IPC? I know, this is pure guesswork [of the most construed 
> kind], but let me know if something resonates.
>
> Maybe you can see how comparable situations work on your Gutsy box? In 
> the mean time, I'll compare running on :0 to :1, and perhaps running 
> 'just' thunderbird as the sole client to a fresh X/Xnest/Xnvc.
>
> Hope to be back in touch,
> Regards,
> Seth
>
> Rimas Kudelis wrote:
>   
>> Hm, it works as intended for me on Ubuntu 7.10.
>>
>> Seth, perhaps it's just delayed reaction? I get similar problems when
>> dragging music from Rhythmbox to my Desktop, for example. Sometimes you
>> just have to wait a few seconds longer for the cursor to change (that
>> indicates you can now move/copy the item).
>>
>> Note: my experience is with X.org, i've turned off both Xgl and desktop
>> effects. This could be important.
>>
>>
>> 
>
>

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Re: [Bug 79289] Re: drag&drop moving of message does not work

2008-02-05 Thread Seth
Rimas,

nope I just hovered about a full minute (I'm on the phone waiting :))
nothing changed. Thanks for confirming that you have it working. Do you 
mind if I braindump anything special about my machine/config?

Here goes
- it is KDE 3.5.8
- Linux sehe-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 
2007 i686 GNU/Linux
- Thunderbird version 2.0.0.6 (20071022)

also (drumroll) I just remembered I have a potentially unusual X 
config, in that kdmrc contains (among others :))

StaticServers=:0,:1

This simply means, that I don't have to manually launch a second X 
terminal. I use both terminals on a single display, switching with 
Ctrl-Alt-F7/F8/F9 etc - no heroics on driver level.

As it happens, :1 is "my" desktop (:0 being my wife's :)). Now it 
shouldn't, but it might influence the inner workings of drag and drop - 
being X-based IPC? I know, this is pure guesswork [of the most construed 
kind], but let me know if something resonates.

Maybe you can see how comparable situations work on your Gutsy box? In 
the mean time, I'll compare running on :0 to :1, and perhaps running 
'just' thunderbird as the sole client to a fresh X/Xnest/Xnvc.

Hope to be back in touch,
Regards,
Seth

Rimas Kudelis wrote:
> Hm, it works as intended for me on Ubuntu 7.10.
>
> Seth, perhaps it's just delayed reaction? I get similar problems when
> dragging music from Rhythmbox to my Desktop, for example. Sometimes you
> just have to wait a few seconds longer for the cursor to change (that
> indicates you can now move/copy the item).
>
> Note: my experience is with X.org, i've turned off both Xgl and desktop
> effects. This could be important.
>
>

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Re: [Bug 79289] Re: drag&drop moving of message does not work

2008-02-04 Thread Seth
Thanks for talking to me :)

With referral to another open bug I found: 180359

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/180359

This is standard Kubuntu 7.10 (other *ubuntus reported too) installation
of thunderbird. Dragging items (single or multiple) results in the drag-
handle floating right back to where the drag started and no action
taken.

I'm certainly not the only one that has this problem, judging from the
aforementioned report.


I hope this is clear enough, I really couldn't think of anything more 
important to add...

Regards,
Seth


Wilco Baan Hofman wrote:
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>   
>> I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10), kubuntu flavor, thunderbird 2.0.0.6
>> (20071022) and still have this bug!!! Has it been regressed? Has it
>> still not been solved?
>> 
> The problem has long been resolved here. Maybe you could describe your
> exact symptoms?
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Re: [Bug 79289] Re: drag&drop moving of message does not work

2008-02-04 Thread Wilco Baan Hofman
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Seth wrote:
> I'm on Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10), kubuntu flavor, thunderbird 2.0.0.6
> (20071022) and still have this bug!!! Has it been regressed? Has it
> still not been solved?
The problem has long been resolved here. Maybe you could describe your
exact symptoms?

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Re: [Bug 79289] Re: drag&drop moving of message does not work

2007-02-01 Thread Mark Shuttleworth

Is there an upstream patch that is tested? Is it attached to this bug
report (am on email not the web right now)?

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Re: [Bug 79289] Re: drag&drop moving of message does not work

2007-01-31 Thread jens_acamedia
let's be fair. this is feisty we're talking about - it has not yet  
been released and is at alpha/beta stage.

so no - there is no support. we're here to help out with bugreporting  
- are we not?

i keep a small partition with edgy for critical tasks and symlink my  
/home so i can dual-boot if need be...

i often get impatient myself - then try to remind myself that this is  
in large part a volunteer effort (and in this case almost two months  
before release).

jens

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