Re: Making example-content more visible
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 21, 2006, at 9:43 AM, Daniel Holbach wrote: ... Apart from making the content fresher, more exciting and more fun, one problem remains: making example content more visible. At the moment it's installed into /usr/share/example-content - a place that my mother would never find. Ugh! :-) Wherever it goes, don't use the word "example", because I already know that, and don't use the word "content", because it hardly means anything. How about /home/Shared/Music/, /home/Shared/Pictures/, and so on? What can we do to make this better? ... How about: For the audio files, leave them in /Users/Shared/Music, and add them to Rhythmbox's library for each account. For the other types, copy them to the Pictures/ or Documents/ subfolder of each new home folder. They're not nearly as big as the audio files, so multiple copies of them won't matter. And ensure that any images suitable as a desktop background are present in the Desktop Background Preferences list by default. - -- Matthew Paul Thomas http://mpt.net.nz/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFD++ZL6PUxNfU6ecoRArn9AJ48+urK+HCbY1WNvYitORkJ+VpzpwCfRu2/ /nsitXwBxqYMQxb8KyHx80Y= =+PP9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Making example-content more visible
Wouter Stomp wrote: How about instead of deploying a link, just copying it to the users home directory? Have some directories like documents, photos, music in the users home folder each with two or three example files. That is how Windows does it, but the problem is duplication of data. With sound, video and presentations with several images this can get quite large. We might hit 10 meg for a single collection. You then duplicate that for each user, which starts taking space. For a single user you are already at 20 meg because you need one local copy and one pristine copy in case a second user account is set up later. In order not to make the Live CD too complicated you might have to replicate this structure in the Live CD file system (since it gets copied by Espresso). So you now have 20meg on the Live CD instead of 10. I guess the Live CD file system can be made to compress that nicely though. I would still advocate a split solution :) Have the small text documents be duplicated and a link for the media stuff. - Henrik -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Making example-content more visible
Hello, Am Dienstag, den 21.02.2006, 00:14 +0200 schrieb Aigars Mahinovs: > If the content is placed in /usr/share/.../ and then a bookmark is > added in the fileselector people will be able to erase that entry from > their config just like any other bookmark, but the content will still > be there under /usr/share/.../ . which method of creating the bookmark in the file selector did you think of? It has to happen automatically. Have a nice day, Daniel signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Making example-content more visible
Hello Sam, Am Montag, den 20.02.2006, 21:32 + schrieb Sam Tygier: > could some of them be put in the create new document context menu in gnome? > at the moment this is empty, but it could be quite useful. this is user configuration too - you can add stuff to ~/Templates. The problem would remain, it's messing with user configuration. :-/ Have a nice day, Daniel signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Making example-content more visible
On 2/20/06, Daniel Holbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apart from making the content fresher, more exciting and more fun, one > problem remains: making example content more visible. At the moment it's > installed into /usr/share/example-content - a place that my mother would > never find. > > What can we do to make this better? Some proposals are obvious: > > * deploy a link on the desktop via /etc/skel? What about existing > users? How about instead of deploying a link, just copying it to the users home directory? Have some directories like documents, photos, music in the users home folder each with two or three example files. Wouter -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Making example-content more visible
Daniel Holbach wrote: I'd very much like to hear your input on this. could some of them be put in the create new document context menu in gnome? at the moment this is empty, but it could be quite useful. sam ___ Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Making example-content more visible
On 2/20/06, Daniel Holbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * add a GTK fileselector bookmark / entry in the places menu? What > about users wanting to remove the entry but still keep example > content? If the content is placed in /usr/share/.../ and then a bookmark is added in the fileselector people will be able to erase that entry from their config just like any other bookmark, but the content will still be there under /usr/share/.../ . -- Best regards, Aigars Mahinovsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] #--# | .''`. Debian GNU/Linux LAKA | |: :' : http://www.debian.org & http://www.laka.lv | |`. `' | | `- | #--# -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Making example-content more visible
Daniel Holbach wrote: Hello everybody, you might have heard of the ExampleContent spec already, which will bring funky content to our users. I'd very much like to hear your input on this. Here is a possible alternative: * We place a single folder in /home/username/ called Examples. This will be fairly discoverable because once the user has gone to Places -> Home Folder she will find it. It also won't add another link to the Places menu and it can be deleted easily. This directory would contain 5-6 small files, all of which are OpenOffice files. If we create these files with some care they should be under 2-300Kb in total. One of them would be IntroductionToExampleContent.odt. Also in this directory would be a symlink called Media that would open up the /usr/share/example-content location. That would give you access to sound files, wallpapers, video, etc. The point here is to separate out those files that the user might actually want to play with and edit from those she would just listen to or view. You might want to edit the text document or spreadsheet to learn OpenOffice, but you are less likely to want to edit the sound file. The IntroductionToExampleContent.odt file would explain how to copy the stock content onto your local account though. This is similar to how Windows does it. They put all the stuff in a sub-folder of 'My Documents' but they obviously don't have a symlink to more stuff :) - Henrik -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
