Re: gvfs-fuse
Hey Mike, Le 01/02/2013 23:50, Michael Terry a écrit : Is there much reason to install gvfs-fuse by default? The comment in the seed is let non-GNOME apps see GVFS via fuse. I think the rational was it provides some useful feature and doesn't take too much disk space, at a time where less applications were using gio and where we didn't think so much about memory usage I think non-technical users are not likely to manually be pointing apps at ~/.gvfs/*. But fuse also lets apps that ask GIO for a path for a remote URI be transparently given a ~/.gvfs path. I don't think non-technical users are likely to browser /run/user/user/gvfs paths (those are the new .gvfs) but the gtkfilechooser has integration for those and will list the active mounts in its sidebar iirc Do we feel like there are many apps likely to do this that don't declare a recommends on gvfs-fuse? Are there any apps likely to do that in the default install? That's a good question, we should probably investigate that indeed. Cheers, Sebastien Bacher -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: gvfs-fuse
Michael Terry [2013-02-01 17:50 -0500]: Is there much reason to install gvfs-fuse by default? I think it would be fine to not install it by default on the tablet/ARM images. But I think it's quite important to keep for PC installs, as otherwise you stop all non-GNOMEish applications from accessing any remote or virtual (ArchiveMounter, etc.) file system. Do we feel like there are many apps likely to do this that don't declare a recommends on gvfs-fuse? This is not really something you can express as a package dependency IMHO. We wouldn't want to add gvfs-fuse depends to all packages which are not using GIO Are there any apps likely to do that in the default install? Firefox, Thunderbird, and LibreOffice all appear to talk native GIO these days. I agree for the default install, but there are still plenty of popular applications such as Audacity or MythTV which are likely to access remote shares. If we do need it for default apps, I imagine it could be made to launch on demand. That would be cool indeed, something in the spirit of autofs? Can the kernel watch a directory and trigger something if it's being opened? Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
gvfs-fuse
Is there much reason to install gvfs-fuse by default? The comment in the seed is let non-GNOME apps see GVFS via fuse. But it causes gvfsd-fuse to run all the time, taking about 700k PSS and 2.7M RSS. I think non-technical users are not likely to manually be pointing apps at ~/.gvfs/*. But fuse also lets apps that ask GIO for a path for a remote URI be transparently given a ~/.gvfs path. Do we feel like there are many apps likely to do this that don't declare a recommends on gvfs-fuse? Are there any apps likely to do that in the default install? Firefox, Thunderbird, and LibreOffice all appear to talk native GIO these days. If we do need it for default apps, I imagine it could be made to launch on demand. -mt -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
