new xorg stack in quantal-proposed
Hi! Quantal-proposed now has xserver 1.13rc2 and all the relevant drivers built against it. So by enabling -proposed and doing a dist-upgrade it should update the stack nicely. This doesn't include working versions for nvidia or fglrx, so only the opensource drivers should work at the moment (nvidia has a beta driver that supports the ABI but has other issues preventing an upload for now). I've tested with intel and it works fine. The stack will get copied to quantal proper after some more testing, and possibly more updates are pushed (1.13rc3 is out already). I didn't push updates for obsolete video drivers not depended on by xserver-xorg-video-all, since I think it's probably time to remove them from the archive (we dropped them from -video-all for 11.10). This includes -apm, -ark, -chips, -glide, -glint, -i128, -i740, -rendition, -s3virge, -tseng, -voodoo. Both users of such hw can still use 12.04 for the next ~5y. t -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: dropping old video drivers (was: new xorg stack in quantal-proposed)
On 08/02/2012 03:15 PM, Timo Aaltonen wrote: snip / I didn't push updates for obsolete video drivers not depended on by xserver-xorg-video-all, since I think it's probably time to remove them from the archive (we dropped them from -video-all for 11.10). This includes -apm, -ark, -chips, -glide, -glint, -i128, -i740, -rendition, -s3virge, -tseng, -voodoo. Both users of such hw can still use 12.04 for the next ~5y. I would think as long as these cards are usable in machines still supported by the kernel, it would be great to keep them (if there's not an unreasonable amount of maintenance; I don't think rebuilds for each new xorg stack qualifies). I would think most of that work would be done in Debian as well. If Debian has dropped them, then by all means follow suit. Thanks, Micah -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: dropping old video drivers (was: new xorg stack in quantal-proposed)
On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 03:43:18PM -0500, Micah Gersten wrote: On 08/02/2012 03:15 PM, Timo Aaltonen wrote: snip / I didn't push updates for obsolete video drivers not depended on by xserver-xorg-video-all, since I think it's probably time to remove them from the archive (we dropped them from -video-all for 11.10). This includes -apm, -ark, -chips, -glide, -glint, -i128, -i740, -rendition, -s3virge, -tseng, -voodoo. Both users of such hw can still use 12.04 for the next ~5y. I would think as long as these cards are usable in machines still supported by the kernel, it would be great to keep them (if there's not an unreasonable amount of maintenance; I don't think rebuilds for each new xorg stack qualifies). This was a pretty conservatively drawn up list. To our knowledge no one still uses this hardware; certainly no one is regularly testing it, as we've seen no bug reports filed about them. This is actually the last step in a process that started about a year or two ago, gradually moving the drivers out of main, out of the -video-abi, etc. Our plan was to keep them through to the next LTS (precise) so if we were mistaken and there *is* some user out there with this hardware, he or she can still use the LTS through its full support cycle. I think that's fair, and lets us drop vestigal drivers that aren't actively maintained upstream. We haven't heard from anyone that they still need these drivers. And after dropping them if anyone *does* need them and can state a good case, it should be trivial to resurrect them. But at this point to the best of our knowledge the drivers are just unused clutter. Bryce -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Moving files to desktop, wrong cursor icon.
Just noticed that moving files on the same drive gives you a + cursor icon. This can be very confusing, especially if you WANT to be copying files. cc. -- xubuntu-devel mailing list xubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
Slow desktop menu - just me?
My desktop menu seems to be incredibly slow. Very slow on first load, and it seems to miss a lot of right-clicks. Is there a hidden timeout value for this that I am missing? It is not much faster without icons... it appears to be XFCE4 based. Cheers for any advice. cc -- xubuntu-devel mailing list xubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
Minutes of the Developer Membership Board meeting, 2012-07-30
Meeting summary === * present: barry [chair], bdrung, laney, micahg, tumbleweed, stgraber * not present: cody-somerville Review of previous actions -- * micahg to document the zentyal packageset - carried forward * micahg to start a discussion on dmb@ about whether PPU should confer membership - done * get consensus whether upload rights should confer membership - micahg to ping beuno regarding CC discussion of the topic * progress on the ubuntu developers woh haven't signed the CoC? - tumbleweed to contact relevant developers * Review any packageset descriptions that have been received (micahg) - carried forward Votes - * PPU upload rights for Matthieu Baerts (cairo-dock, cairo-doc-plug-ins, latexila) - 5 vote for; 0 against; 0 abstain - motion carries * Core dev rights for Stefano Rivera - 5 votes for; 0 against, 0 abstain - motion carries Next meeting * Monday, August 13, 2012 at 19:00 UTC Full logs - http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-30-14.00.log.html Cheers, -Barry (on behalf of the DMB) signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-devel-announce mailing list ubuntu-devel-announce@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-announce
Xorg crashing every time I resume from suspend
Hello There is a bug that causes Xorg to crash just after resuming from suspend + logging in. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/956071 There are lots of desperate comments but no word from any developer. This is really my biggest concern with Ubuntu, bug almost never gets fixed in the same version, only the next (at least not the ones I've experienced). This is of course a big problem if you plan to stay at a LTS release. Rgds//Thomas -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Fwd: Xorg crashing every time I resume from suspend
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Thomas Novin tho...@xyz.pp.se wrote: Hello There is a bug that causes Xorg to crash just after resuming from suspend + logging in. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/956071 There are lots of desperate comments but no word from any developer. This is really my biggest concern with Ubuntu, bug almost never gets fixed in the same version, only the next (at least not the ones I've experienced). This is of course a big problem if you plan to stay at a LTS release. I just looked into it and it seems that both Debian [1] and X.org [2] have bugs reported and are looking into it. Because it affects a large number of users and can lead to data loss, this is a candidate for an SRU [3] once the fix is found. [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681796 [2] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52496 [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates Regards, Scott -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
