Re: Call for testing: 23.10 candidate images
Hi Lukasz, On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 10:28, Lukasz Zemczak wrote: > Most of you already know, but sending out an e-mail just in case. > We're in the middle of the 23.10 release week right now, with an > official set of release candidate images available here: > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/449/builds Thank you for that. Downloaded Ubuntu 23.10 rc and tested it, and registered my results. BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://github.com/ian-bruntlett/TECH-Manuals/blob/main/tm-free-software.md -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Call for testing: 22.04.1 release candidate images ready!
Hi Lukasz, On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 at 23:58, Lukasz Zemczak wrote: > Hello everyone! > > We just finished building our first official set of 22.04.1 release > candidate images. From what we're seeing so far things seem to be > looking quite nice, so fingers-crossed for those being our final ones! > > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/437/builds > > Please pick your favorite flavor and start testing! And be sure to > report your results on the isotracker above. > I downloaded the abovementioned iso, Ubuntu 22.04.1 on an HP Elitebook 8730w largish laptop. It has 4GiB RAM and a 320GB HDD. The install went like a dream and it works. I went to the isotracker and, after logging in, reported the successful install. In fact, the Canonical website stuff was the most demanding part of the process. HTH, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: systemd-oomd issues on desktop
Hi, On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 at 20:20, Dan Streetman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 3:03 PM Nick Rosbrook > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > During the 22.04 cycle, we enabled systemd-oomd [1] by default on > > desktop. Since then, there have been reports of systemd-oomd killing > > user applications too frequently (e.g. browsers, IDEs, and gnome-shell > > in some cases). In addition to a couple of LPs [2][3], I have heard > > these reports by word-of-mouth, and there have been discussions on > > internal Mattermost. A common theme in these reports is that e.g. > > Chrome is killed "suddenly" without any other observable symptoms of > > the system nearing OOM. > When it comes to OOM situations, how hard would it be to: * provide a status indicator on the status of memory usage, possibly in red if memory usage is a little higher than is safe? * once an application has been killed by the OOMD, how hard is it to tell the user that this has happened to satisfy the OOMD? HTH, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: pv (a pipeline progress indicator) in main?
Hi Bryce, pv looks like a really good idea to me. Kudos to Andrew Wood for his code and to the people promoting this tool. Using pv at the beginning of a pipe provides full information and an estimate of time remaining. This is really useful. Using pv to display the progress of a tar command is a little redundant. Because tar and time can already do that for you. I ripped this out of a script file of mine I've used in the past. echo "$0" Running in "$PWD" echo Creating tar file: $1 /usr/bin/time -f "%E mins:secs " tar --checkpoint=4000 --checkpoint-action=ttyout='%{%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S}t (%d sec): #%u, %T%*\r' -czf "$@" OTOH, using pv is a lot simpler. BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: /boot disk partition size
Hi, Quick question. I'm using an install of Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS x86_64 with one partition for / and another partition for swap. All my /boot files are in a subdirectory of my / partition. My drive is 1TB in size. Am I doing something wrong? TIA, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Call for testing: ubiquity-based 20.04.2.0 desktop image respins
Hi Lukasz, I needed to update an old laptop that had been in an office ever since Covid and Lockdown began. Details: HP EliteBook 8730w with Nvidia graphics. Installation media: USB memory stick with 20.04.2.0 desktop image on it. Installed this on it:- $ sha256sum focal-desktop-amd64.iso 93bdab204067321ff131f560879db46bee3b994bf24836bb78538640f689e58f focal-desktop-amd64.iso OK, so it *does* install OK and it *does* boot. However it gets very hot and crashes, with only the mouse pointer moving. Personally, I think it *might* be an Nvidia problem. I did choose to install the 3rd party software etc. Maybe I should have avoided that? So I rebooted and quickly went into "Software & Updates" chose "Additional Drivers" and told it to switch from the Nvidia driver to the Nouveau device driver. Exercised the system a bit, using gnome-clocks as a timer. So far it has gone on for just over 20 minutes without crashing. Kudos to the nouveau team! HTH, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Call for testing: ubiquity-based 20.04.2.0 desktop image respins
Actually, as well as thanking the nouveau team, I'd like to thank the Canonical teams for their hard work, too. -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Call for testing: 20.04.2 release candidate images ready!
Hi Lukasz, On the page http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/420/builds/226354/downloads "Download links for Ubuntu Desktop amd64", there is a minor error. It refers to "MD5 checksum" and it should refer to "SHA256 checksum". I installed the iso with no problems. HTH, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Focal Fossa Beta candidate builds ready to test
Hi Brian, Yesterday I downloaded and installed this iso:- f3d899e230f1d348beda80e2560a2fcd focal-desktop-amd64.iso I must say that the install has improved since I last installed it (Saturday). In particular, the issue with the partitioner GUI being a bit clumsy has been resolved. I then tested it again this morning - web browsing and a peek at LibreOffice Writer and that was OK. I did try to log that progress (see below) and am not sure that it worked:- http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/411/builds/210016/testcases BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Focal Fossa Beta milestone delayed
Hi Lukasz, On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 09:32, Lukasz Zemczak wrote: > The image building issues have now been resolved and all the new Beta > isos are now built and ready to test [1]. Please pick up your favorite > flavor and resume testing as soon as possible. > *The install.* I downloaded and installed this from USB flash drive:- d3eff3d41d9d32a0b8a87e4faf8aef25 focal-desktop-amd64.iso The install went relatively smoothly - 1 little bug with the partitioner. Logged in, went online with Firefox, had a look at LibreOffice Writer. *Little bug in partitioner.* I was installing on top of the previous beta of Ubuntu. So, as usual, I went for the "Other" option to set up the partitions. I clicked on my root partition to activate the "Format" option. When the dialogue box closed, the partitioner formatted the partition right away, stating that this was because the partition size had been changed (it hadn't). *Logging results.* I went to this page to log the success of the install:- http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/411/builds/210065/testcases I clicked on "Passed with no bugs" and... nothing happened. Not sure if that means my results were logged or not. Thank you! > No problem :) BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
32-bit support.
Hi, I spotted a post by Canonical about support for 32-bit:- *"Thanks to the huge amount of feedback this weekend from gamers, Ubuntu Studio, and the WINE community, we will change our plan and build selected 32-bit i386 packages for Ubuntu 19.10 and 20.04 LTS."* Short story: I have been and will continue to test Ubuntu/Lubuntu on actual 32-bit hardware. I have been running a Computer Refurbishment Project for the benefits of members of Contact Morpeth, a mental health charity. The number of 32-bit systems still in use are declining but there are a few systems soldiering on that I test Ubuntu/Lubuntu on. Also: a side issue. The Ubuntu shop seems to have closed down. Before I pass on equipment, I've been putting an Ubuntu Linux sticker on it. Will stickers still be available? BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Disco Dingo (19.04) Final Freeze - is it available?
Hi, Are the above isos available for testing yet - and where are they? Was hoping to test it this morning but I haven't heard a peep so far. BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: New Ubuntu Core Developer - Simon Quigley
Hi Simon, On 13 August 2018 at 21:26, Simon Quigley wrote: > Today, I was voted to be an Ubuntu Core Developer by the Ubuntu > Developer Membership Board (a board which I already sit on, so I'm > taking care of myself here). I now have upload rights to the entire > Ubuntu archive. > > Thanks everyone! > Congratulations! BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Symbols files for C++ libraries for Ubuntu main
Hi Robie et al, I have quite a bit of C experience and some C++ experience (not on Linux, though) and I'm a volunteer tester. I haven't quite got the hang of github (it is in my pile of things to learn). Having access to the source code for packages would be helpful because sometimes, when chasing down a bug, access to source code is desirable. You never know, one day I might even be submitting patches for my favourite projects :) BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386
Hi Nrbtx et al, On 9 May 2018 at 21:59, Nrbrtx wrote: > Dear Bryan and all! > > Please do not forget about some special hardware configurations such as > Thin Clients. > For example we use about 50 machines as Fat LTSP clients with Intel > Celeron and Intel Atom. Their RAM is limited to 2Gb by hardware. They use > Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with MATE desktop environment. > > Even if CPU is 64-bit compatible, it will be impermissible luxury (or high > RAM usage in other words) of 64-bit OS. I prefer 32-bits here as it reduces > RAM usage. > > Please take into account my logic about 32-bit LTSP clients. And do not > drop 32-bits completely. > As a hobby, I run a computer refurbishment project where people give me old computers/laptops and, once they are refurbished, are given to people with mental health problems, their families or students or other needy people. As a result, I'm the go-to-guy for a number of old computers out in the community. The number of 32-bit systems out there actually in active use is pretty small. For personal use, I have a Samsung NC10 32-bit netbook whose task these days is to act as an easily carried computer. I have been keeping an eye out for a similar system with the exception of having a 64-bit CPU, without much success. According to my information, lubuntu 18.04 will be supported for 5 years. I should be able to find a suitable replacement system in that time. It isn't convenient but perhaps it is time to start planning the replacement of existing 32 bit systems? Making computer shops / businesses aware that you'd like to have "old" (!) 64-bit systems donated to your particular charities? HTH, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: More diagnostics data from desktop
Hi Will, On 14 February 2018 at 15:22, Will Cooke wrote: > We want to be able to focus our engineering efforts on the things that > matter most to our users, and in order to do that we need to get some more > data about sort of setups our users have and which software they are > running on it. > > We would like to add a checkbox to the installer, exact wording TBD, but > along the lines of “Send diagnostics information to help improve Ubuntu”. > This would be checked by default. > Fine by me.I refurbish old donated laptops and PCs and pass them on to people with mental health problems, their family and carers - this is the Computer Wombling Project. Enabling the above by default would be a good idea as quite a few of the end users would struggle to cope with this sort of thing. BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Legacy Support
Hi Len, On 31 July 2017 at 02:22, Len Ovens wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, Helios Martinez Dominguez wrote: > > There should be a way to provide x86 support natively while providing x64 >> upgrading on the go as detected, as needed or as stated. It would allow >> to remain >> > > We already do provide both 32 and 64 bit ISOs. Putting both on one ISO > would pretty much double the size of an ISO that is the biggest ISO of all > the Ubuntu ISOs. Last I checked, UbuntuSTudio did still load and work on > well over 10 years old computers so long as they have at least 1 Gig ram > (though more is needed to make the best use) There are enough people who > rely on a machine not connected to tyhe internet to make on the go installs > not practical. > I use the existing isos a lot. In particular, the isos can be used via optical disc or USB flash drive. That makes life (and testing) easier. There are a number of ways to see of a computer is (Intel/AMD) 64-bit compatible. 1. Boot from a memtest86+ disc, look at the processor details on-screen and Google that for more details. Or look it up on WikiPedia. 2. If running a Linux, use this command:- grep -i lm /proc/cpuinfo If you see "lm" listed in the "flags" line, 64-bit mode is available. BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Change of scope and target market for i386
Hi Dmitri, On 3 May 2017 at 18:01, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > ## > NB! this is a mailing list for developers, and this is a _proposal_ > that I want to discuss with the *buntu developers. There is no need to > OMG this, especially since this is a recurring discussion every single > development cycle for many years now... > ## > Here is my feedback and info about my experiences of installing and supporting lubuntu... Your changes look interesting. I am the main part of a scheme to refurbish old computers and pass them on to people with mental health problems, their carers or children. I install Lubuntu on them as it provides a more familiar desktop environment. Some of the people I support have 32-bit systems, especially laptops. Given the age of the computers, being able to boot from a net install CD-R and install Lubuntu is invaluable. For systems that can boot from a USB flash drive, the hybrid Lubuntu iso is also invaluable. A friend who also refurbishes computers for people told me he used Debian because the Lubuntu isos would not install on pre-586 systems. When giving info about the 32-bit isos, could you mention some of the x86 processors that are not suitable for the iso? BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Keyboard short-cuts
Hi All, I particularly like Ubuntu's keyboard short-cuts. Most (if not all) of my friends at the Tyneside LUG are unaware of them. I was thinking of writing a mini-article about them for the ACCU's CVu magazine and I was wondering if there is a page out there that lists them? I know if you hold the "super/Windows" key, you get a list of some of the short-cuts and was wondering if they were also listed on a web page. Thanks :) Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel