Local build of Phone images ?

2013-11-15 Thread Jani Monoses
Hello,

what is the correct setup and invocation of live-build in order to 
replicate the builds of the current Ubuntu phone images for armhf as 
published on cdimage.ubuntu.com ?

Is there something as straightforward as for the desktop-build as 
described here?
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-June/033458.html

thanks
Jani


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Re: Local build of Phone images ?

2013-11-15 Thread Jani Monoses
Thanks Kevin,

sorry for not being more specific in my email. I meant the Ubuntu 
userland .zip not the Android bits.

On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 08:26:39 -0600, Kevin Gunn wrote:

 Hi Jani - I was able to use these instructions a several weeks back, I
 assume they're still accurate.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Building


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Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Jani Monoses
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:22:58 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:

 Hello,
[snip]
 That's certainly true, but I think this is something that the DMB has a
 duty to correct.  Frankly, I think there's no reason that Adam and Björn
 couldn't have been ready for upload rights by January, *if* the DMB's

I must ask the same question as the Debian maintainer who endorsed Björn's 
application: 'Are you kidding? :)'
I never assumed for a moment that he had not long been an uploader of 
LibreOffice.

I think the DMB members did their job well by following the existing 
guidelines for such approval procedures and I also think those guidelines 
are in need of adjustments.

It seems ridiculous to have such a bureaucratic process that prevents for 
example someone who more or less single-handedly has been taking care of 
LibreOffice in Ubuntu for the past two years get upload rights *for that 
set of packages only*.

Extra caution is desirable when approving core developer or universe 
upload rights but it is counterproductive to have the same rules for 
applicants of restricted upload rights.

I've seen similar problems in the past two years where people from Linaro 
would simply not bother applying for maintainership of otherwise good 
packages and preferred keeping them in PPAs at the detriment of those who 
only use the official Ubuntu archives, because again, the requirements 
seemed daunting.

I honestly think the process should lose the 'pledge of allegiance' 
aspect for single uploaders and just get out of the way, saving time and 
annoyance both for those uploaders and for the Ubuntu developers who have 
to do the sponsoring.

cheers
Jani


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Re: Call for votes: Developer Membership Board restaffing

2013-01-31 Thread Jani Monoses
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:06:31 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:

 On Thursday, January 31, 2013 09:23:39 AM Jani Monoses wrote:
 On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:22:58 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
  Hello,
 
 [snip]
 
  That's certainly true, but I think this is something that the DMB has
  a duty to correct.  Frankly, I think there's no reason that Adam and
  Björn couldn't have been ready for upload rights by January, *if* the
  DMB's
 
 I must ask the same question as the Debian maintainer who endorsed
 Björn's application: 'Are you kidding? :)'
 I never assumed for a moment that he had not long been an uploader of
 LibreOffice.
 
 I think the DMB members did their job well by following the existing
 guidelines for such approval procedures and I also think those
 guidelines are in need of adjustments.
 
 What's in the current guidelines that needs changing?

I am only talking about PPU rights below, I think the current process for 
getting broader rights is ok.

There is too much coupling between Ubuntu membership and upload rights. 
While there are many developers who are both uploaders and contribute 
broadly to other non-technical aspects of the project, I think PPU should 
be seen as a focused technical role closer to that of traditional 
upstreams.

I'd also argue that endorsements from people who had sponsored and worked 
closely with the applicant in the past should have a greater weight than 
they apparently do and the process should not be about interview style  
packaging related questions.

Jani


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Re: Screen orientation and backlight sensing for the Nexus 7

2013-01-30 Thread Jani Monoses
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:22:46 +, Jani Monoses wrote:

 On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:00:00 +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 i just uploaded http://paste.ubuntu.com/1555763/ which should do for
 now, it would be great if someone could re-implement /usr/bin/acceld in
 actual C .. polling like that from a shell script adds some CPU
 overhead that we could avoid ...
 
 I am looking into what it takes to add this functionality to gnome-
 settings-daemon that already has support for screen orientation and a
 certain type of accelerometer. If that does not work out without being
 too intrusive we should look into making this into C as you suggest.

This is the current status. I'll probably upload the g-s-d equivalent of 
the shell script today.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bug/1110360/comments/2

Jani


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Re: smem report from the nexus-raring

2013-01-29 Thread Jani Monoses
Hello,

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:06:41 +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote:

 
 We recently did a smem memory snapshot from raring, running on a nexus
 tablet. The results have been recorded on the wiki:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Smem-2013-01-16
 

At least some of the items have notes indicating work has already started 
on them.
Do either of these have issues filed? It would be easier to follow 
progress and have discussions related to individual applications' memory 
consumption in the familiar LP bug interface, while keeping the wiki page 
as an overview with links to LP.

Jani


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Re: Screen orientation and backlight sensing for the Nexus 7

2013-01-21 Thread Jani Monoses
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:00:00 +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote:

 hi,
 
 i just uploaded http://paste.ubuntu.com/1555763/ which should do for
 now, it would be great if someone could re-implement /usr/bin/acceld in
 actual C .. polling like that from a shell script adds some CPU overhead
 that we could avoid ...

I am looking into what it takes to add this functionality to gnome-
settings-daemon that already has support for screen orientation and a 
certain type of accelerometer. If that does not work out without being 
too intrusive we should look into making this into C as you suggest.

Jani


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Patch Pilot report 2012-03-30

2012-03-30 Thread Jani Monoses
I was not scheduled today but since last time I only got around to 
sponsor two packages I did a few more now:


* Sponsored 5 uploads for Linaro devs to make some packages cross-build
and used for bootstrapping Ubuntu:

gawk, noweb, libbsd,texinfo, klibc

* debsign --debs-dir is broken due to incorrectly added quotes
https://launchpad.net/bugs/966867
Asked for updated debdiff to include a more complete patch that is in 
Debian git


* FontConfig/Qt stack choke on Ubuntu Medium font meta-data (No medium 
in Inkscape and too bold in Qt apps)

https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/ubuntu/precise/ubuntu-font-family-sources/no_medium_font/+merge/98606
Merged and uploaded

* Ethiopian Mobile Broadband provider information
https://launchpad.net/bugs/915095
Notified maintainer and unsubscribed sponsors

* Ubuntu Studio fr.po is not translated in french
French team is already assigned, unsub sponsors

* Set WIP as the corresponding bug is Won't Fix (something LP does not 
make obvious, the letters are tiny grey instead of saying in BIG RED: DO 
NOT CONSIDER MERGING THIS BEFORE READING THE BUG LINKeD TO IT)

https://code.launchpad.net/~gruemaster/flash-kernel/bug-961174/+merge/98874

35 at the beginning, 27 after

I just recently started using the sponsor-patch tool and it is helpful.


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Re: Five build fixes a day

2011-09-13 Thread Jani Monoses

[1] If your primary focus is main, you may be tempted to say oh, they're
 in universe, so they don't matter very much.

 Firstly, the noise causes a problem in itself; many Launchpad bug
 views don't make it particularly easy to see what component bugs
 affect, and we often have to filter things out in order to do
 release management effectively.

 Secondly, we often have to promote packages from universe or fix
 problems in universe in order to meet user/customer demand or clean
 up various bits of the archive, so allowing universe buildability to
 be a swamp causes us velocity problems.

 Thirdly, we provide universe for the benefit of our users; even if
 Canonical engineers generally have main as their primary focus, we
 all lose out if our users are having upgrade problems due to a
 popular package in universe failing to build and so being stuck on
 an old version of a library that conflicts with other newer
 packages, or something like that. [2]


Fourthly, for armel at least, fixing toolchain related build failures 
(quite a few and usually gcc regressions) in universe helps make the 
tools better and can translate to similar fixes in main. This is less of 
an issues on x86/amd64 where the toolchain is more mature and better 
tested in general.


Jani



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Re: Oneiric / Sid diff pages in Launchpad

2011-08-16 Thread Jani Monoses

Hello,

Is each package diff accessible from the corresponding Ubuntu package 
source page?



https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+uniquepackages
This has over 3000 entries, many of which are not actually in sid but 
pending approval? Do those not yet meet criteria for inclusion?


For ex:
Pending in sid-release since 2009-04-21 16:46:55 EEST

Jani




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Re: Oneiric / Sid diff pages in Launchpad

2011-08-16 Thread Jani Monoses

On 08/16/2011 07:19 PM, Julian Edwards wrote:

On Tuesday 16 August 2011 09:30:43 Jani Monoses wrote:

Hello,

Is each package diff accessible from the corresponding Ubuntu package
source page?


No, you need to go to the pages I mentioned.


https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+uniquepackages


This has over 3000 entries, many of which are not actually in sid but


I count 2089.



Sorry I miscut the wrong link, this is the one I meant.

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+missingpackages


pending approval? Do those not yet meet criteria for inclusion?

For ex:
Pending in sid-release since 2009-04-21 16:46:55 EEST


Someone else will have to answer that.





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Re: Pairing new patch pilots with old patch pilots

2011-07-07 Thread Jani Monoses

On 07/07/2011 12:46 PM, Daniel Holbach wrote:

Hello Bryce,

Am 06.07.2011 21:12, schrieb Bryce Harrington:
I like the idea very much. With the Packaging Training classes [1] we
are always looking for people who are willing to talk 10-15 minutes
about a topic and answer just a few questions about it.

Who would be willing to give a session like that?



If it were possible to record (and then post-process/edit into a 
publicly viewable movie) the terminal session(s) of such a 4 hour shift 
as done by pitti, cjwatson or other very productive sponsors it would be 
a much more valuable learning tool than all of the wiki pages we have 
ATM on the subject IMO.


The tutorials and packaging classes usually give a generic overview and 
work on a simple package which is a good way to get started, whereas a 
broad coverage of a dozen or more packages in such a sponsoring session 
surely touch some corner cases and show off existing tools and new ways 
to use and combine them even for more experienced developers.


Jani


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Package post-install notification methods?

2011-02-16 Thread Jani Monoses

Hello,

I received quite a few helpful suggestions about how one could partially 
solve the problem I describe below so I am more confused than if there 
were only one way to do it :)


For an ARM blueprint [1] concerning updating boot firmware on certain 
boards, one of the requirements is to notify users when a new bootloader 
package is installed. These binary packages (u-boot and/or x-loader) get 
installed on the system but they have no effect on the booting unless 
the files they contain are copied to a boot partition.


This copying is not automatic and not part of the package via a dpkg 
hook because it is a potentially dangerous operation. However users 
should be notified that the possibility exists and that they can flash 
the new firmware using flash-kernel.


The question is how to present this notification to the user so that
* it works both in X and in headless images
* it is simple and involves a minimum number of package and system file 
changes :)


I was suggested motd-update, jockey, update-manager hooks and debconf 
notes so far.


I find the debconf way the least intrusive but I worry that few packages 
use such notes and it is only for important use-cases.


Such firmware updates do not happen frequently, if ever, in a stable 
release, as only bugfixes that cannot otherwise be worked around in 
kernel or userland are targeted.


thank you
Jani

[1] 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-arm-n-handle-core-boot-files-update



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Re: Unity desktop and maverick backport

2010-11-19 Thread Jani Monoses
On 11/19/2010 02:10 AM, Alex Launi wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@ubuntu.com
 mailto:kirkl...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 I thought a good 2D experience was also one of the key objectives?


 Yeah, but the good 2D experience is really just a fall back to Gnome 2.X
 panel, and the current Ubuntu desktop. It will be good to have this fall
 back well tested, but that doesn't help us test Unity.

Sorry for the tangent but I could not find more information about this 
online: is the Unity UI fundamentally tied to 3D acceleration support 
and compositing? IMHO if it was technically possible it would be more 
uniform to have the 2D experience built on the same new UI/UX concepts 
just a bit less visually intense, much like the 'desktop effects' 
setting used to provide more or less the same UI with various degrees of 
glitz.

thanks
Jani


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