RE: EGL Drivers and Mir/Wayland
check here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTQ3NzA From: kyle.willia...@stu.fayette.kyschools.us To: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: EGL Drivers and Mir/Wayland Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 22:17:23 + Hello, I am still not 100% positive what exactly EGL is, but I saw people talking about it on a forum thread, and some were saying that if AMD/Nvidia were to release EGL-compatible drivers, these drivers would work with both the Mir and Wayland display servers, as they both use EGL. Is this true? Does that mean these companies would only have to release one proprietary driver that supports EGL and it would work on both Mir and Wayland? I'm not asking Ubuntu developers to say what Nvidia or AMD will do, just making a what if scenario here. Thanks! Kyle Williams -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
RE: Xorg was removed.. without an alternative
You posted after my reply in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-July/037451.html, but there's no indication whether you saw it. I repeat: do you have saucy-proposed enabled? If so, disable it; humans should not have that enabled. Unfortunately at this moment is very easy for anyone to enable it with just a click, even by accident, so shouldn't be a surprise that this is destined to happen to a number of people (gladly some report back this feedback, while others don't). There's really no warnings or prevention mechanism for something that a human should not have enabled or avoid. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
RE: Including cheese in the default desktop
The bug doesn't really states that cheese should be default, but rather a way to test your cam. Also cheese has a simple bug that makes you see everything mirrored by default and you have to dig into the effects to find the correct one. So if it gets fixed I guess is not a problem if its included by default. I think the ubuntu-friendly program has an app on the system ( https://friendly.ubuntu.com/participate/ ) where you can test some of your hardware components and let you give it a score (and share it online: https://friendly.ubuntu.com/ ) However Is kinda slow or sometimes buggy and would be nice if it helped you fill bug reports or be sent to a support site when something doesn't work correctly. Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 13:42:05 -0400 From: ps...@ubuntu.com To: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Including cheese in the default desktop -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bug #213539 was filed in 2008 and is still open, so I'd like to finish it. It requests that cheese be added to the ubuntu-desktop task. Implementation is a quick one liner, so it comes down to making the decision to do it or not. Is it the desktop team that would make this decision? Could they please say yes or no so this bug can get closed one way or the other? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRnlTsAAoJEJrBOlT6nu75ReEIAIvzIw3Z3QYMKQIenGmE1vD4 8pY9I291Bj/CVOvyoky9I+1DVMt7j9cOUE0EXSR7zAPijAOmsQlOONmcaqeyK0eL orUWav+nVReqpGgGP4R6vQ/CKFUInPq4WdC7wziuPm4t/Yhnh87sXgDV3bskgWSP 8Mqm295BxNqrtMnxa0giwMWSszVcg9k8Kc7vvekWD1u7wqgTqmwop8/zg4uY2Fiq a4yy+FActpGl98irONgy/1QZIXF2N0IAYCiaBPP1UpXQIblWSBNGATe8PL09ThuT t2Yx5JoEkAtbJSdeMjFARCqDhRGpt2hbXF9eOhcxOjHERsB05ZjoqBtNwfTN0dg= =D1Do -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
RE: App installer design: click packages
A quick update and status report from the PackageKit and Listaller project for those interested: http://blog.tenstral.net/2013/05/packagekit-appstream-and-listaller-a-status-report.html -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
LTS point releases (12.04.1 , 12.04.2 , etc.) and semi-rolling
LTS point releases (12.04.1 , 12.04.2 , etc.) and semi-rolling release I totally agree with how the foundations are getting in place for a rolling model. Obstacles like the daily quality and even the fixed 6 month UDS which also was a kind of obstacle have all been addressed and updated to accommodate the new times ahead. I believe most people will be very happy sticking to the LTS and its point/support releases (12.04.1, 2, etc.). Proof of that were all the great amount of changes and improvements introduced recently in the latest 12.04.2 in order to address important things like UEFI/secure-boot and the Steam launch. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-12-04-2-LTS-Officially-Released-Features-New-Linux-Kernel-329713.shtml Most people thought they would be forced to update to 12.10 for this, but were pleasantly surprised when the LTS received the attention it deserves, which most interim releases have usually taken away. However to avoid fragmentation or too many normal users using the rolling development because they can't wait 2 years, I propose more attention to these LTS point/support releases. More Unity features backported from the R.D.R. and of course as much up to date software as possible. Anyway there are many different models for a RR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release But some of the most popular for users and devs, with more stability and precitbility over full-rolling are the semi/half-rolling, like LMDE and Chakra: http://chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Half-Rolling_Release_Model Both also release snapshots, so is easy to evaluate right now the positives, what fits with Ubuntu's new vision and what can be improved. -Omar B. -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Getting new packages into Ubuntu
On Monday, October 10, 2011 06:40:33 PM Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le lundi 10 octobre 2011 à 12:34 -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : What rationale would there be for doing that for just Universe? There are lots of leaf applications in Main and lots of libraries in Universe. I think we should consider differently the system and the softwares so the using main and universe there might be wrong yes... Using Ubuntu with Unity (or GNOME) as an example the system would be the plumber, plymouth, lightdm, the desktop shell and the features integrated with the desktop (image and documents viewers, file manager, etc). That part should be under a strict process, respect freezes, etc. Then we have all the applications stack, basically things that microsoft users would go to install from the internet or that you would get from the appstores, those have no reason to have their freezes, schedules, etc tied to the OS itself or to the shell, they should be easier to update and be able to follow the rhythms upstream want to use for their softwares... Does it make sense? It does makes lots of sense. Was a main topic a year ago at the UDS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT5fUcMUfYg is a big and old problem that hasn't seen much progress yet. But there is an old bug about this, which seems to be currently being worked on and/or used as reference/goal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/578045 -Manuel B. -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
