Re: Easier and more reliable ISO downloads, with error correction

2007-11-04 Thread Caroline Ford
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 23:50 -0500, John Richard Moser wrote:
> 
> Anthony Bryan wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Have you thought about using Metalinks for your ISO downloads? It's an
> > XML format used by download apps, and contains the ways to get a file
> > (mirrors/P2P) along with info for automatic error detection/recovery
> > (checksums) and other stuff.
> 
> Bittorrent.

Some ISPs block bittorrent of course. Vodafone UK is one of them. I had
great problems downloading openoffice.org for windows as they *only* use
bittorrent as a distribution mechanism. 

Someone thankfully pointed me in the direction of a novell (I think)
version which was available to download normally.

Caroline 


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Re: Easier and more reliable ISO downloads, with error correction

2007-11-04 Thread John Richard Moser


Anthony Bryan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Have you thought about using Metalinks for your ISO downloads? It's an
> XML format used by download apps, and contains the ways to get a file
> (mirrors/P2P) along with info for automatic error detection/recovery
> (checksums) and other stuff.

Bittorrent.

> 
> It makes things simpler for the user, since they don't have to
> manually try a bunch of servers that could be down, can use local
> mirrors first, and can repair downloads (very useful for large files
> like ISOs).

Bittorrent.

> 
> About 15 download managers & P2P apps support it so far, including
> aria2 (in the Ubuntu repos), DownThemAll! (Firefox extension), KGet2
> (part of KDE4), and popular DMs on Windows and OS X like GetRight,
> Free Download Manager, Orbit, wxDownload Fast, Speed Download, and
> TheWorld web browser.

You have to download something you don't already have.  Download bittorrent.

> 
> Wubi, the Ubuntu Windows installer, Ubuntu Greece and Indonesia use
> them as well. Over 20 other distros use Metalink, along with
> OpenOffice.org, cURL, and LugRadio.
> 
> Metalinks for Ubuntu 7.10 are at http://www.metalinker.org/samples/ubuntu/
> 
> Here's part of what one looks like:
> 
>
> Linux-x86
> 729608192
> 
>  d2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c
> 
> 
>   location="ro"
>preference="90">
>
> http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ubuntulinux.org/releases/.pool/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
>   
>   location="jp"
>preference="100">
>
> http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/.pool/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
>   
>   location="us"
>preference="90">
>http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/.pool/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
>   
> 
>
> 
> 
> PS - Great work on Gutsy, it's very nice :)
> 

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Re: rationale of root access from boot

2007-11-04 Thread Oystein Viggen
* ["Nicolas Deschildre"] 

> My point was not about the parameter itself. My point was about the
> ability to edit the kernel parameters while booting.
> IIRC lilo won't allow you that.

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Security.html

Lilo has a similar password feature, but no distribution I've used had
lilo passwords enabled by default.  For rationale, it's just obnoxious
when you finally need to boot to single user, and you get asked for a
password that you haven't used since you installed the box.

Øystein
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Re: rationale of root access from boot

2007-11-04 Thread Nicolas Deschildre
On 11/4/07, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> try init=/bin/bash, now do you think Linux is insecure because it has an
> init parameter?

My point was not about the parameter itself. My point was about the
ability to edit the kernel parameters while booting.
IIRC lilo won't allow you that.

>
> Op zondag 04-11-2007 om 11:20 uur [tijdzone +0800], schreef Nicolas
> Deschildre:
> > hi!
> >
> > I was wondering about the rationale of allowing anyone to easily boot
> > root (by adding the 'single' parameter to the kernel command line with
> > grub).
> >
> > While I can understand it on a server, which must be physically
> > protected to be really secure, IMO it is pretty bad on workstations.
> >
> > I know that with some knowledge and perseverance, one can anyway get
> > root access (Live CD, or if BIOS locked or no CD drive, open the box,
> > take the drive), but here, with the 'single' parameter, it is an easy
> > and discrete open door *out of the box*. IMO this is pretty bad
> > security.
> >
> > Nicolas
> >
>
>

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