Re: Call for testing empathy
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 10:12:57PM +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote: Hello everyone, Empathy[1] will be part of the upcoming GNOME 2.24 desktop. The ubuntu desktop team considers using it instead of Pidgin for intrepid as default IM client. If you are running intrepid, please give empathy a test and report bugs to launchpad[2]. It may be installed by running synaptic and installing the empathy package or by running sudo apt-get install empathy. If you experiment a bug have a look at [3] before reporting. Empathy consists of a rich set of reusable instant messaging widgets, and a GNOME client using those widgets. It uses Telepathy and Nokia's Mission Control, and reuses Gossip's UI. The main goal is to permit desktop integration by providing libempathy and libempathy-gtk libraries. libempathy-gtk is a set of powerful widgets that can be embeded into any GNOME application. The Telepathy[4] project is building a unified framework for many different kinds of real-time communications. It uses the D-Bus messaging system to provide a simple interface for client applications, allowing them to quickly take advantage of Telepathy's benefits. Telepathy supports XMPP(jabber), MSN, ICQ, SIP, ... I installed it and selected Applications-Internet-Empathy. Nothing happened, except for the appearance of an icon in the notification area, which, if I were not familiar with this misbehavior from certain other applications, would have gone completely unnoticed. Surely it should display a window the first time it is run? -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Call for testing empathy
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:26:56AM -0700, Dane Mutters wrote: Hello. I've been following along with this empathy discussion, and for my own testing purposes have made some hardy packages for empathy (and all its deps that aren't found in the repos). I would like to upload them to my ppa so that others who would like to test empathy can do so. I have a problem, however. Whenever I try to upload them, I get this error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Empathy$ dput danes-ppa empathy_2.23.6-1_amd64.changes Checking Signature on .changes gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: the signature could not be verified. Please remember that the signature file (.sig or .asc) should be the first file given on the command line. No signature on /home/dane/Empathy/empathy_2.23.6-1_amd64.changes. You're uploading the wrong file; you want empathy_..._source.changes. -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Call for testing empathy
On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 19:05 +0100, Andrew Sayers wrote: Could you give some examples of existing Ubuntu applications that would benefit from integrating (lib)empathy? Jokosher: you could add a track, select a contact, and when you press record - it opens a voice connection to them via IM and their contribution is added to the mix. Scott -- Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Call for testing empathy
You're uploading the wrong file; you want empathy_..._source.changes. -- - mdz Thanks! I'll give that a shot. --Dane -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Call for testing empathy
Il giorno dom, 10/08/2008 alle 13.55 +0100, Alexander Jones ha scritto: Saying that Ekiga meets the VoVi needs of Pidgin users is pretty ridiculous. It's SIP for a start, nobody uses SIP, and for the few that do, TELEPATHY SUPPORTS SIP TOO! It took a long time for ekiga to work properly. I think most people stopped using it because it had bugs. Now I can answer a phone call to my voip number from anywhere using ubuntu and its default applications - this is why I started using ekiga. If anything has to replace it, it has to be stable in turn, since stability is the only useful feature of ekiga right now :) If the new software will be crashy and buggy, people will just say that voip is broken in ubuntu as it always was with ekiga - this would not be good. In any case, I can't find how to add an account with my SIP provider, I can just add three or four trademarks like sipphone but not an arbitrary provider, which I can do in ekiga. Also, is yahoo instant messaging supported? Can libpurple be used? Can I directly import my pidgin accounts? The latter is very important for upgrades. Vincenzo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Call for testing empathy
On lun, 2008-08-11 at 13:43 +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 10:12:57PM +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote: Hello everyone, Empathy[1] will be part of the upcoming GNOME 2.24 desktop. The ubuntu desktop team considers using it instead of Pidgin for intrepid as default IM client. If you are running intrepid, please give empathy a test and report bugs to launchpad[2]. It may be installed by running synaptic and installing the empathy package or by running sudo apt-get install empathy. If you experiment a bug have a look at [3] before reporting. Empathy consists of a rich set of reusable instant messaging widgets, and a GNOME client using those widgets. It uses Telepathy and Nokia's Mission Control, and reuses Gossip's UI. The main goal is to permit desktop integration by providing libempathy and libempathy-gtk libraries. libempathy-gtk is a set of powerful widgets that can be embeded into any GNOME application. The Telepathy[4] project is building a unified framework for many different kinds of real-time communications. It uses the D-Bus messaging system to provide a simple interface for client applications, allowing them to quickly take advantage of Telepathy's benefits. Telepathy supports XMPP(jabber), MSN, ICQ, SIP, ... I installed it and selected Applications-Internet-Empathy. Nothing happened, except for the appearance of an icon in the notification area, which, if I were not familiar with this misbehavior from certain other applications, would have gone completely unnoticed. Surely it should display a window the first time it is run? Good catch, the gconf key was set to hide the contact list by default, fixed in trunk. Xavier Claessens. -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Call for testing empathy
On lun, 2008-08-11 at 07:13 -0700, Dane Mutters wrote: I've been testing empathy as well. It doesn't give me an option to have it figure out who each ICQ number pertains to (i.e. what their nickname is). That would be a really useful feature. ICQ do not support saving alias on server. Or at least libpurple does not support that for ICQ. Empathy does not save locally atm, patch welcome! Also, I've been having trouble getting it to work with my Asterisk server. It doesn't give one the option to specify the server's IP address; only the STUN server can be specified, and I don't use STUN, as it's on my local network. You mean for SIP? Do you need to set the registrar? That option got removed by error, will add it back asap. Other than that, it seems to be very functional. I'll keep testing... Thanks. Xavier Claessens. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Call for testing empathy
On lun, 2008-08-11 at 16:07 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: Il giorno dom, 10/08/2008 alle 13.55 +0100, Alexander Jones ha scritto: Saying that Ekiga meets the VoVi needs of Pidgin users is pretty ridiculous. It's SIP for a start, nobody uses SIP, and for the few that do, TELEPATHY SUPPORTS SIP TOO! It took a long time for ekiga to work properly. I think most people stopped using it because it had bugs. Now I can answer a phone call to my voip number from anywhere using ubuntu and its default applications - this is why I started using ekiga. If anything has to replace it, it has to be stable in turn, since stability is the only useful feature of ekiga right now :) If the new software will be crashy and buggy, people will just say that voip is broken in ubuntu as it always was with ekiga - this would not be good. I think we all agree that Ekiga does a far better work for SIP than Empathy does at the moment... In any case, I can't find how to add an account with my SIP provider, I can just add three or four trademarks like sipphone but not an arbitrary provider, which I can do in ekiga. Also, is yahoo instant messaging supported? Can libpurple be used? Can I directly import my pidgin accounts? The latter is very important for upgrades. You can just add a SIP account and set your provider. We have some preconfigured providers but it is not required to use them. Yes empathy can use libpurple if you install telepathy-haze, it provides support for all piding's protocols. Xavier Claessens. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Call for testing empathy
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Xavier Claessens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On lun, 2008-08-11 at 16:07 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: Il giorno dom, 10/08/2008 alle 13.55 +0100, Alexander Jones ha scritto: Saying that Ekiga meets the VoVi needs of Pidgin users is pretty ridiculous. It's SIP for a start, nobody uses SIP, and for the few that do, TELEPATHY SUPPORTS SIP TOO! It took a long time for ekiga to work properly. I think most people stopped using it because it had bugs. Now I can answer a phone call to my voip number from anywhere using ubuntu and its default applications - this is why I started using ekiga. If anything has to replace it, it has to be stable in turn, since stability is the only useful feature of ekiga right now :) If the new software will be crashy and buggy, people will just say that voip is broken in ubuntu as it always was with ekiga - this would not be good. I think we all agree that Ekiga does a far better work for SIP than Empathy does at the moment... I haven't tried Empathy, but I've never had Ekiga work. It never connected transmitted um...anything. One time I tried with Spec (another ubuntu member), and we could get my webcam to send images to him using OpenWengo, but not Ekiga. Wengo's a Qt app, though, I think. -- Mackenzie Morgan Linux User #432169 ACM Member #3445683 http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com -my blog of Ubuntu stuff apt-get moo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Installing recommends and the CD size
Olá Michael e a todos. On Friday 08 August 2008 20:40:07 Michael Vogt wrote: * we should provide a easy way to identify what packages on the system are recommended by installed packages but currently not installed. This is already possible with the policy broken filter in synaptic, but its not a preset filter right now and the name for the filter option is not really good (suggestions welcome). I cant find this, where is it? Many times we have already discussed the replacing of CDs image by DVDs, but ppl all over the world still dont have enough bw to download DVDs, even if media is at the same price. Also server loads would increase to numbers way bigger than any mirror admin would enjoy. I guess we need a middle-of-the-road solution. A post-install hook to download the rest, combined with larger images but still not 4GiBs. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Installing recommends and the CD size
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 6:02 PM, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many times we have already discussed the replacing of CDs image by DVDs, but ppl all over the world still dont have enough bw to download DVDs, even if media is at the same price. Also server loads would increase to numbers way bigger than any mirror admin would enjoy. People all over the world also lack DVD drives. One of my 4 desktops has a DVD drive. -- Mackenzie Morgan Linux User #432169 ACM Member #3445683 http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com -my blog of Ubuntu stuff apt-get moo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Minutes from the Technical Board, 2008-07-15
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:52:25AM +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote: == Filesystem checking / AutoFsck == A suggestion was made to the technical board that Ubuntu could be smarter about how and when it performs filesystem integrity checks (fsck). Decision: This should be discussed more widely in the developer community Action: Scott to start a thread on ubuntu-devel/-discuss I find the autofsck to be most notable on my laptop, perhaps because I reboot it more frequently, and because it usually chooses to autofsck at some inopportune time. I don't know if laptop harddrives need fsck more than desktop's, but I wouldn't mind seeing the frequency be reduced for laptops. Alternatively, maybe the autofsck could be made to take a few more factors into account, such as total run time since last fsck, total absolute time since last fsck, drive age, etc. Bryce -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Call for testing empathy
Le vendredi 08 août 2008 à 19:23 -0400, steve a écrit : hardy here, wanted to see whats up with the package...it works. but... one thing... why are backends not installed by default or at least a way to do it from gui? Im not even seeing them in synaptic? is that because im not using development branch? Hi, the hardy version didn't have the correct recommends and recommends were not installed by default so you will need to install the telepathy components yourself there Sebastien Bacher -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
ext4 in Intrepid?
I've been following the development of ext4 for what seems like an eternity. From what I understand, the latest Fedora 9 release features ext4 support. So too do many other popular distros. And what I can't understand is why Ubuntu still doesn't feature any support for ext4, to my knowledge. I was hoping that the developers could shed some light on the reasons as to why. And will it perhaps make its way into Intrepid? If not, when we will see support for ext4 in Ubuntu. Regards -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Call for testing empathy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le vendredi 08 août 2008 à 19:23 -0400, steve a écrit : hardy here, wanted to see whats up with the package...it works. but... one thing... why are backends not installed by default or at least a way to do it from gui? Im not even seeing them in synaptic? is that because im not using development branch? Hi, the hardy version didn't have the correct recommends and recommends were not installed by default so you will need to install the telepathy components yourself there Sebastien Bacher Hi, thanks, googled for a while and finally figured that out too. Looks good here even on hardy.. Ive seen mentioned in my googling of a video and voice plugin or a version that is somewhat working? Cant seems to find where that is though. a link? thanks. - -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIoMzDUpqfZIdKFyERAkAnAKCUpF+6P8voSfUq98HGbwPOclm1EQCdH6B0 CJpUrj69KQSE3zgMwe+BFT8= =DRTR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: ext4 in Intrepid?
I second this. I'm also providing links to the brainstorm, launchpad bug, and ubuntu forums pages below. http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/4468/ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137872 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=837589 On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I've been following the development of ext4 for what seems like an eternity. From what I understand, the latest Fedora 9 release features ext4 support. So too do many other popular distros. And what I can't understand is why Ubuntu still doesn't feature any support for ext4, to my knowledge. I was hoping that the developers could shed some light on the reasons as to why. And will it perhaps make its way into Intrepid? If not, when we will see support for ext4 in Ubuntu. Regards -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
