Re: ISO Testing, before 1700 UTC Thursday
On 9/18/08, Jason Crain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nergar wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 12:23 +1000, Sarah Hobbs wrote: > > > >> The standard warnings about how it might kill your hard drive, > >> etc, might apply - but no one's found them this far. > >> > > > > Might kill my hard dirve??? In what sense? I'm not touching them! > > > > > Might be referring to this: > http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/30/1742258 > Nope. It's just the standard "development code, bugs may exist" warning. For example, if you were testing the installer by installing to a separate partition of your hard drive and there was a bug in the installer which changed the partition it was installing to, that would wipe your existing install. No bugs of that kind are known at the moment as far as I know, but bugs like that may exist. Hence we give warning. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: ISO Testing, before 1700 UTC Thursday
Nergar wrote: > On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 12:23 +1000, Sarah Hobbs wrote: > >> The standard warnings about how it might kill your hard drive, >> etc, might apply - but no one's found them this far. >> > > Might kill my hard dirve??? In what sense? I'm not touching them! > Might be referring to this: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/30/1742258 Some default settings from certain hard-drive manufacturers may cause drives to wear out faster. But you get these kinds of warnings all the time. Some badly made CRTs could blow out if bad sync rates are set, backup because it could overwrite all of your data with ASCII pr0n, etc. Basically, it is for testing. We don't know what might go wrong, so don't get mad if something breaks. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: ISO Testing, before 1700 UTC Thursday
Might kill my hard dirve??? In what sense? I'm not touching them! On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 12:23 +1000, Sarah Hobbs wrote: > The standard warnings about how it might kill your hard drive, > etc, might apply - but no one's found them this far. > > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
ISO Testing, before 1700 UTC Thursday
Hey all, If you have any spare time, and feel like testing Ubuntu, the Ubuntu Release Team would appreciate more testers for the Intrepid Ibex Alpha 6 ISOs. The standard warnings about how it might kill your hard drive, etc, might apply - but no one's found them this far. These images should be good to go, and have no known release critical bugs. The information, and downloads are at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/. There are links down the side of the page, showing other flavours, which also need testing. If you want to discuss this on irc, please do so in #ubuntu-testing on irc.ubuntu.com, or #ubuntu-bugs. Thanks, Hobbsee signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data
Shouldn't the Telepathy framework be considered for storing account settings? Remco -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data
> > Hi, > > I think it would be important to distinguish between a local cache of a > remote IMAP or CalDAV folder (i.e. Configuration) vs. local mail > folders, calendars, contact lists, etc. (Data). > I agree, I regretted not making a note about cache data. Caches are temporary stores, if it makes sense to export them to a more permanent states then that would be where they'd translate into user data. As an example, pidgin's user lists and profile images are cache, unless the contact is tied to a standard address book system where the profile image could be stored in the right place it's not permanent and is more of a state of the application. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Configuration masquerading Data
> I think this idea is extremely valuable and merits robust discussion to > discover ways to encourage application developers to incorporate this > way of approaching data storage. Thank you, I'm not always as coherent as I'd like when I describe my ideas and knowing it made sense to you gives me confidence in presenting it as a discussion at UDS in December. > I wonder how would you differentiate between data and configuration if > you were to write a specification for this? There is a logic between the two can be broken down into the following definitions: Configuration - Data which changes the state and logic of a computation, key selection of the flow of an application or execution which are not involved in the input or output data directly. User Data - Data which is directly the input or output results for any computation or use. > Consider for example Pidgin, which stores its account data within a > ".purple" directory. The same tree also contains logs for each of the > discussions, icons, application preferences and miscellaneous other files. Examples: - Pidgin * Configuration - Settings for which services to connect to, what skins to use and what plugins to use. * Data - Text entered at the keyboard, text received over the service, files received or sent over the service, chat logs. - Gnome Background Settings * Configuration - which background is selected, which backgrounds are available, how a background is to be presented. * Data - Background image files - Evolution Email Application * Configuration - which services to connect to, which plugins to use, syncing rates, display preferences. * Data - Email messages recieved, contact data, calendar event, note text, text typed in, files sent as attachments. > What I'm asking is, at which point do you think the line between > application data and user data needs to be drawn, or do you think that a > best practice approach might incorporate the idea that if your > application stores information that is useful to another application, it > should be stored in a non-configuration location? There is a further separation at the configuration level which must be accounted for. Sercive configuration often involves standard protocols which multiple different apps for different reasons could use the same configurations for. This isn't to be confused with user data though. A directory for ~/.services/email/accounts.xml would be a way of standardising the service/protocol level configuration. User data though needs to be stored in ways which users have control over directly. The cheese project recognised that keeping photos out of the home directory browsing space was a bug and that hiding user data is not a desirable quality when you want flexibility and user control. The fact that other applications could use this data is a useful side effect too. For instance using XSD directories cheese has allowed F-Spot to be made to import photos from the XDS directory, grabbing cheese photos and then allowing the user to export them to flikr or what ever the user wants. This provides a level of context to a users data and power to the user. The XSD directories idea is a very powerful one which should be considered for more user data than it is currently. Another aspect is making sure that each elemental datum has a standard format which we can use to allow the user control of. For instance an image can be saved as a png file, An email message can be saved as an eml/message file and a bookmark can be saved as a link file. but not all of the available formats have been agreed upon, standardised or even meet all of the feature requirements of the applications involved. For instance vcards are nice, but I can't see EDS using them as a data store since it's not a very normalised format. I should also make a note that just because the data is stored in files in some of these examples doesn't mean you are forced to forgo the use of an index. The mechanism of recording your email messages in a sqlight db file which may or may not be specific to the application is not in question. Let me know if I've managed to explain my ideas on how we can differentiate user data from configuration data. I'd be interested in cases which break my logic. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Configuration masquerading Data
On 13/09/08 11:48, Martin Owens wrote: > Technically configuration directories denoted by being hidden > (suffexed with a '.') are there to hold collections of configuration > files for the applications which they serve. But there are plenty of > programs using these directories to store the data results as well as > configuration. > I think this idea is extremely valuable and merits robust discussion to discover ways to encourage application developers to incorporate this way of approaching data storage. I wonder how would you differentiate between data and configuration if you were to write a specification for this? Consider for example Pidgin, which stores its account data within a ".purple" directory. The same tree also contains logs for each of the discussions, icons, application preferences and miscellaneous other files. The account information is stored in an XML file which mixes Pidgin-specific data with user IRC account data. What I'm asking is, at which point do you think the line between application data and user data needs to be drawn, or do you think that a best practice approach might incorporate the idea that if your application stores information that is useful to another application, it should be stored in a non-configuration location? -- Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S31°54'06" - E115°50'39" (Yokine, WA) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |>>?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: IDEA: Commercial Subscription Repositiory
Am 17.09.2008 um 19:21 schrieb Kevin Fries: > Next we create a special package we can call ubuntu-desktop- > licensed that will automatically include all of the licensed and > commercial software [...] IMHO, forget it. Neither Microsoft nor Apple nor one of the smaller vendors will ever allow to upload their commercial-only binaries to a public place. Even less if it helps users getting away from their products. > to provide a Windows-esk experience The only way I can see an advantage is to look into well known places the user owns already, like a Windows installation on a different partition or the rescue disks most computers ship with. It's not so much wether other OSs have better fonts, it's more because you want to look at your older documents with the fonts they were made with. MarKus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Rejecting the Firefox EULA in Ubuntu
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 09:22, Paul Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 14:14 +0100, Sean Hodges wrote: > > It seems no'one has looked into this yet, so I will have a look this > > weekend. > > There has recently been an announcement from Mozilla that they're going > to fix this. See, for example, the coverage in Groklaw (even if you > don't like Groklaw they do have links to blog postings etc.) > > The discussion about whether we want to keep FireFox with the attendant > risk of "brush fires" such as this one should continue, but I don't > think we need to rush out and adopt Iceweasel or whatever before > Intrepid ships (assuming Mozilla actually does what they say they're > going to do: fix the problem). Yes and look which side of the problem space Groklaw (rightly, IMO) puts Ubuntu. This is something Mozilla absolutely should have understood would never be acceptable. The fact that they are now shocked at the push-back is indicative of how far they are from the FOSS community. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080917045510597 Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
IDEA: Commercial Subscription Repositiory
All this talk recently of the boneheads over at Firefox adding an EULA (they are not usually boneheads, but are this time) has me revisiting an idea that I had some time ago. My plate is extremely busy right now, so if anyone wants to steal it, feel free. As a matter of fact, I encourage someone to steal it. Enhance it all you want. I just hope somebody will see the advantages this would bring, and build it. The idea is focused around the nearly constant, age old, arguments that erupt in the Linux community over licensed software. Arguments over fonts, codecs, etc. Newbies especially get frustrated when Linux fonts are not quite as nice as those commercial ones used on Mac and Linux, printer drivers are missing, or the ability to play certain music and videos is limited. So, why do we not provide that? Simple, licensing. Here is my proposal -- Phase One - In the first phase, we set up a repository to hold all the fonts and codecs and other licensed stuff. Think of this in the same exact way that Apple and Microsoft does it, only better, because in the Linux tradition, you only subscribe to it if you want it, its not forced on you like the other platforms. APT gets its updates via http, so doing a paid subscription model should be very straight forward. I am thinking that this should be easily done for say $30 per Ubuntu release. The sources.list file will simply have to have a line like: deb http://joeuser:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ubuntu intrepid licensed Next we create a special package we can call ubuntu-desktop-licensed that will automatically include all of the licensed and commercial software to provide a Windows-esk experience (minus the viruses and constant crashing) to the Ubuntu desktop. It could even be a simple add to the install. A check box that describes all of the "features" of the commercial service with a checkbox that must be opted into to enable, and a warning that the service must already be set up to prevent errors. This could be implemented tomorrow with no structural changes to Ubuntu or Linux. Phase two will require a few minor structural changes, and is why it is put off for later. Lets do what we can NOW, then work on the enhancements. Phase two - Its not the commercial software in Windows that irritates me as much as the complete duplication of services and lack of central license management. Windows does not have anything like APT (they have several bad attempts, but nothing that really compares). I would like to see a central software, license and update management that is basically an extension of Synaptic. But, there would need to be a few changes. It would work like so: * Commercial software (Photoshop anyone?) would be placed in a special repository that will include at least 15 or 30 days of trial use. This use may be full featured or restricted use as the software vendor requires. It will operate this way without a license according to the trial period. The packages should be standard .deb packages that can be installed or uninstalled in the normal way. * Trialware should always behave as a file viewer, and exporter. This has two positive effects: first is that software never gets in a state where the end users has moved on to another product but the files are not compatible with the new software; and documents are viewable (though probably not editable) by people that do not otherwise use that product. By having an export feature (assuming the file has not been locked as read-only with a password, and that password is not known) I should be able to move a document between different software packages. (I know, idealism, but I can dream) * A "License Manager Service" will be written as a system daemon. I am thinking for enterprise customers, an LDAP backed option could really start going after Microsoft's Systems Management Server. The LMS would have the following interface: - List: List all software licenses on the system - Retrieve: Retrieve the license for a given package - Backup: Store all license information in a backup file so the system can be easily restored from a complete re-install - Restore: ummm duh - Add: Software can add a new license to the database - Renew: Software can renew its license information to extend the effective date of the license - Disable: License info should probably never be deleted for historical purposes, but it should be able to be disabled. - Warn: Warn the end user of any software whose license is about to expire, this should be configurable but 90 days, 60 day, 30 day, 15 day, 5 days, and 1 day would be good default periods to look for. - Validate: check a license for validity - Update_Validate: check if the given update would invalidate this license (see below, used for update manager) * While all free/maintenance updates should be done via the normal APT process, commercial software impo
Re: Rejecting the Firefox EULA in Ubuntu
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 02:14:47PM +0100, Sean Hodges wrote: > >> Is there an easy way to reject the EULA on the Firefox shipped with > >> Ubuntu and still be able to use the software? Has anyone patched the > >> source code to remove this yet? > >> > *SNIP* > > > >This is on Fedora, but should help: > >http://www.toad.com/gnu/sysadmin/index.html#firefox-eula-sux > > Thanks for the suggestion, I have seen this article before. > > It describes how to modify the binary and not the source. I'm looking to > remove the EULA dialog from the source altogether, so the resulting > packages do not have it. Or alternatively allow you to reject the terms > but still use the program. I tried to find the place this was changed, and saw nothing in the changelog for the firefox-3.0 package. Then I was referred to the ubufox package, which is where the change took place on Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:02:19 +0200 in version ubufox (0.6~b1-0ubuntu1) intrepid. * MERGE 0.6~b1 release from lp:ubufox That isn't very informative about such a controversial change. But we can look at the bzr logs for ubufox: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/ubufox/main I haven't looked in detail, but revision 103 talks about EULA changes: Merge first run EULA display feature from lp:~asac/ubufox/main.firstrun - update content/overlay.js - update defaults/preferences/ubufox.js - add content/mozeula.html See http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~asac/ubufox/main/revision/103 > It seems no'one has looked into this yet, so I will have a look this > weekend. I hope this helps. And remember, as others have pointed out, this is being very actively worked on by both Mozilla and Ubuntu firefox folks. You can vote on brainstorm as Jane Silber suggests: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/269656/comments/383 and see what Mozilla is saying and proposing: http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2008/09/15/ubuntu-firefox-and-license-issues/ http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/ I resonate with the user comments in the latter URL, that even without a click-thru requirement, any sort of "agreement" asserted by Mozilla for using the code is out of line with what I want Ubuntu to be about. Note the complication that they are also trying to get agreement to use their anti-malware and anti-phishing web services, which is a different thing. Is there a better place to discuss the Ubuntu process and options with those working on it? The bug is not the right place, and those involved may not be subscribed to this list. Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: pain in the butt
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 15:13 +0100, =?ISO-8859-1?Q? (``-=5F-=B4=B4)_--_Fernando _ wrote: > Olá jude e a todos. > > On Wednesday 17 September 2008 14:27:29 jude ui wrote: > > I have treid and used , reinstalled ubuntu many times , I find it a pain to > > install software *WITHOUT THE INTERNET *- so I'm currently using debian > > because it has over* 21* cds with a HUGE software respitory. > > > > And yes I've tried to install debian packages on ubuntu - the whole > > toolchain is messed up and I can't install certian software (I need) > > because dependencies are incompatable. > > > > Is there sombody that can create a software respertory on CD's for > > people without internet. > > > > (How am I on now? - I'm using public computers) What version of Ubuntu? There are DVD sets of the full repos available for purchase on various parts of the internet if you look around. -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt-get moo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: pain in the butt
Am 17.09.2008 um 15:27 schrieb jude ui: > I have treid and used , reinstalled ubuntu many times , I find it a > pain to install software WITHOUT THE INTERNET As you are discussing with developers: please go ahead, single out what exactly you have problems with, file a bug for each of the problems at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ and start working on them. Your help is appreciated. MarKus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: pain in the butt
Olá jude e a todos. On Wednesday 17 September 2008 14:27:29 jude ui wrote: > I have treid and used , reinstalled ubuntu many times , I find it a pain to > install software *WITHOUT THE INTERNET *- so I'm currently using debian > because it has over* 21* cds with a HUGE software respitory. > > And yes I've tried to install debian packages on ubuntu - the whole > toolchain is messed up and I can't install certian software (I need) > because dependencies are incompatable. > > Is there sombody that can create a software respertory on CD's for > people without internet. > > (How am I on now? - I'm using public computers) I'm redirecting this email to Ubuntu Users, that is the correct list to help you out with this. For installing offline your best bets are to use: APTonCD - http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/ - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/APTonCD APTZip From Synaptic you can also generate the download links for the packages you want to install, and then import them to your system again. Good luck with that. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
pain in the butt
I have treid and used , reinstalled ubuntu many times , I find it a pain to install software *WITHOUT THE INTERNET *- so I'm currently using debian because it has over* 21* cds with a HUGE software respitory. And yes I've tried to install debian packages on ubuntu - the whole toolchain is messed up and I can't install certian software (I need) because dependencies are incompatable. Is there sombody that can create a software respertory on CD's for people without internet. (How am I on now? - I'm using public computers) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Rejecting the Firefox EULA in Ubuntu
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 14:14 +0100, Sean Hodges wrote: > It seems no'one has looked into this yet, so I will have a look this > weekend. There has recently been an announcement from Mozilla that they're going to fix this. See, for example, the coverage in Groklaw (even if you don't like Groklaw they do have links to blog postings etc.) The discussion about whether we want to keep FireFox with the attendant risk of "brush fires" such as this one should continue, but I don't think we need to rush out and adopt Iceweasel or whatever before Intrepid ships (assuming Mozilla actually does what they say they're going to do: fix the problem). -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Rejecting the Firefox EULA in Ubuntu
>> Is there an easy way to reject the EULA on the Firefox shipped with >> Ubuntu and still be able to use the software? Has anyone patched the >> source code to remove this yet? >> *SNIP* > >This is on Fedora, but should help: >http://www.toad.com/gnu/sysadmin/index.html#firefox-eula-sux Morgan, Thanks for the suggestion, I have seen this article before. It describes how to modify the binary and not the source. I'm looking to remove the EULA dialog from the source altogether, so the resulting packages do not have it. Or alternatively allow you to reject the terms but still use the program. It seems no'one has looked into this yet, so I will have a look this weekend. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: how can it be more popular then popcon?
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 10:54 +0200, Viktor Nagy wrote: > Hi! > > this is an excerpt from the actual popcon dataset sorted by vote > > 1 perl-base 150701 > 2 debianutils 150375 > ... > 10popularity-contest145894 > > this means that popularity-contest was touched/used by 145 894 > installations, so they were the ones who have sent a report, as this > means that the file was touched. But then how can there be more > touches on some other packages? > Please see this thread for a variety of possible reasons for this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/08/msg00566.html Thanks, James -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
how can it be more popular then popcon?
Hi! this is an excerpt from the actual popcon dataset sorted by vote 1 perl-base 150701 2 debianutils 150375 ... 10popularity-contest145894 this means that popularity-contest was touched/used by 145 894 installations, so they were the ones who have sent a report, as this means that the file was touched. But then how can there be more touches on some other packages? probably I misunderstand these measures, so please enlighten me! Cheers, V -- Viktor Nagy - viktornagy.com Phd Student Toulouse School of Economics -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Required reboot (was apt-listchanges: changelogs)
Olá Chris e a todos. On Wednesday 17 September 2008 09:09:24 Chris Coulson wrote: > It is Network Manager that required you to reboot (apologies if that wasn't > really what you were asking - I've only caught the tail-end of this > conversation). Thanks. And this was the very 1st email to the list! Why does NM require a reboot, then?! -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Required reboot (was apt-listchanges: changelogs)
2008/9/17 (``-_-´´) -- Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What in this set of updates is making my system reboot? > I dont see anything kernel related in there! > Plus, this set of updates left my system unconfigure, and not even a dpkg > --configure -a is working. > > I've open a LP ticket with the ID: #271246 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/271246 > -- > BUGabundo :o) > (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net > Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB > My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net > ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. > I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... > > > [SNIP] Hi, It is Network Manager that required you to reboot (apologies if that wasn't really what you were asking - I've only caught the tail-end of this conversation). Cheers Chris -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Fwd: Required reboot (was apt-listchanges: changelogs)
What in this set of updates is making my system reboot?
I dont see anything kernel related in there!
Plus, this set of updates left my system unconfigure, and not even a dpkg
--configure -a is working.
I've open a LP ticket with the ID: #271246
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/271246
--
BUGabundo :o)
(``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net
Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB
My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net
ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance.
I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by...
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alacarte (0.11.5-1ubuntu2) intrepid; urgency=low
* added debian/patches/01_properties_button to show a properties-button
(LP: #86473)
-- Andreas Moog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:01:31 +0200
desktop-file-utils (0.15-1ubuntu5) intrepid; urgency=low
* debian/defaults.list:
- use evince to open cbr and cbz (lp: #270969)
-- Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:07:34 +0200
firefox-3.1 (3.1~b1~hg20080916r19311+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1) intrepid;
urgency=low
* New upstream snapshot
* Unset FORCE_OFFICIAL_BRANDING to return to minefield branding
- update debian/rules
* Drop system nspr/nss
- update debian/rules
* Update requirement for system sqlite3 to >= 3.6.0
- update debian/rules
* Add libasound2-dev to Build-Depends for the new HTML5 tag
- update debian/control
* Change appname and use a dedicated profile
- update debian/firefox.sh.in
- add debian/patches/firefox-profilename
- add debian/patches/firefox-fsh
* Use Shiretoko, codename for 3.1 instead of Granparadiso
- rename debian/firefox-3.1-granparadiso.desktop =>
firefox-3.1-shiretoko.desktop
- update debian/rules
* Drop dom-inspector, venkman and legacy firefox-{,trunk,granparadiso}
packages
- update debian/control
* Update diverged patches:
- update debian/patches/nspr_flags_by_pkg_config_hack.patch
- update debian/patches/bzXXX_reload_new_plugins.patch
- update debian/patches/firefox-fsh
- update debian/patches/nspr_flags_by_pkg_config_hack.patch
- update debian/patches/lp185622_system_path_default_browser.patch
- update debian/patches/browser_branding.patch
* Drop useless patches
- drop debian/patches/bz436133_att322801.patch
- update debian/patches/series
* Add a -d/--debug switch to the launcher script to start firefox inside gdb.
Note that it must be specified first on the command line.
- update debian/firefox.sh.in
* Set MALLOC_OPTIONS=O before calling xulrunner during build. This is needed
to avoid a dead-lock in jemalloc when running under fakeroot
- update debian/rules
-- Fabien Tassin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:56:31 +0200
fontconfig (2.6.0-1ubuntu4~fta1) intrepid; urgency=low
* add debian/patches/06_ubuntu_lcddefault.patch: set lcddefault as
default for the lcd-filter now that Cairo prefers lcdlegacy. This
is needed to restore our previous behavior. Thanks to Sylvain Pasche.
(LP: #271088, #264254)
-- Fabien Tassin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:40:14 +0200
hal-info (20080508+git20080601-1ubuntu3) intrepid; urgency=low
* Add 03_latitude_xt_tablet_keys.patch to enable tablet keys
on Latitude XT. (LP: #271042)
-- Mario Limonciello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:23:32 -0500
jockey (0.5~alpha1-0ubuntu2) intrepid; urgency=low
* debian/control: Replace python-qt4 dependency with python-kde4, since
that's required now. (LP: #263017)
* oslib.py, {install,remove}_package(): Intercept apt's LockFailedException
and FetchFailedException. (LP: #268850)
* oslib.py: Fix typo causing crash in remove_repository(), add test cases.
(LP: #269435)
* Merge some bug fixes from trunk:
- Update KDE UI according to recent GTK ui changes. (LP #268163)
- ui.py, set_handler_enable(): Fix reversed logic in determining
enable/disable strings. (LP: #269444)
- fglrx.py: Fix crash if Device section does not configure a driver
(LP: #269565)
- Test suite: check handler behaviour with invalid xorg.conf, fix a few
crashes uncovered by that. (LP: #258064)
- detection.py: Fix crashes if cupsd is not running. (LP: #256780, #255488)
- jockey-gtk: Call gtk.init_check() to test $DISPLAY, and print error
message instead of crashing. (LP: #234252)
- oslib.py, _save_module_blacklist(): Create modules.d directory if it
does not exist. (LP: #229065)
- jockey-gtk: Add license text dialog and link it to the license button
(LP: #269352)
- com.ubuntu.devicedriver.policy.in: Allow non-local driver install
(auth_admin). (LP: #269175)
- Move hardware detection from Backend ctor to separate function, and call
that with long D-BUS timeout and progress dialog. (LP: #253224)
- Various fixes in test suite.
-- Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:10:35 -0700
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