Re: [Pkg-fglrx-devel] AMD Dropping R300-R500 Support In Catalyst Driver

2009-03-13 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Bertrand Marc schrieb:
 Patrick Matthäi a écrit :
 Hello,

 I just saw this today:

 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amd_r500_legacynum=1

 Fact:
 AMD will drop the support with 9.4 for all cards which are older than 
 the HD 2000 series to focus on newer card. 9.3 will be the last 
 release which supports 300-500 cards.

 How annoying..

 Also we are not able to support the legacy driver until Squeeze, due 
 of Xorg ABI bumps (incompatible with Xorg 1.5.99) and the kernel 
 module is also not every time in a good way patchable..

 Comments?
   
 Hello,
 
 I would have plenty of comments about AMD, but let's stick with fglrx...

Yeah and this does not help anyone :)

 On our end I think we just need to make it clear to users still using 
 R300-500.

This would be one solution.

 As you said 9.3 will probably not work with squeeze, so it has 
 no sense to upload a legacy driver, hasn't it ?

Depends on how fast Squeeze releases and with which kernel and if we are 
able to patch it.
But the biggest problem is the Xorg incompatibility. 9-2 does not fit 
with xserver 1.5 yet. We could just still hope that 9-3 will do so, then 
we had a chance..

 
 I am curious to see what commercial distribution (as Ubuntu) will do 
 about it. Maybe they'll patch 9.3 as long as possible and we will be 
 able to use their work ?

Kanotix is the commercial one, not Ubuntu.

Anyway I CCed the maintainer list of the Ubuntu fglrx maintainers.
What are your plans?

Cheers.

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Patches for better detecting i915 driver

2009-03-13 Thread Martin Bammer
I'm running easypeasy 1.0 with kernel 2.6.27.18. Some hal-scripts for
suspend/hibernate do not detect correctly the i915, because module entry
is missing in /sys. The patches make the scripts more robust. They
additionally use /proc for detection.

--- a/usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-hibernate-linux	2009-03-08 13:19:25.088879950 +0100
+++ b/usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-hibernate-linux	2009-03-08 13:18:14.0 +0100
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ unsupported() {
 # on some video drivers we must ignore video quirks, since they break
 # on them; this particularly affects Intel = 915G and the proprietary
 # nvidia and fglrx drivers.
-if [ -d /sys/module/i915 ]; then
+if [ -d /sys/module/i915 ] || [ x`cat /proc/dri/0/name | grep i915` != x ]; then
 # the i915 kmod also drives the i830/i845/i855/i865 chips nowadays, but
 # they still need quirks on at least Linux 2.6.24.
 PRODID=`hal-get-property --udi $HAL_PROP_INFO_UDI --key system.hardware.primary_video.product`
--- a/usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-suspend-hybrid-linux	2009-03-08 13:19:35.683849842 +0100
+++ b/usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-suspend-hybrid-linux	2009-03-08 13:17:51.0 +0100
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ read seconds_to_sleep
 # on some video drivers we must ignore video quirks, since they break
 # on them; this particularly affects Intel = 915G and the proprietary
 # nvidia and fglrx drivers.
-if [ -d /sys/module/i915 ]; then
+if [ -d /sys/module/i915 ] || [ x`cat /proc/dri/0/name | grep i915` != x ]; then
 # the i915 kmod also drives the i830 and i855 chips nowadays, but they
 # still need quirks on at least Linux 2.6.24.
 PRODID=`hal-get-property --udi $HAL_PROP_INFO_UDI --key system.hardware.primary_video.product`
--- a/usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-suspend-linux	2009-03-06 09:23:53.0 +0100
+++ b/usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-suspend-linux	2009-03-06 09:22:59.0 +0100
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ read seconds_to_sleep
 # on some video drivers we must ignore video quirks, since they break
 # on them; this particularly affects Intel = 915G and the proprietary
 # nvidia and fglrx drivers.
-if [ -d /sys/module/i915 ]; then
+if [ -d /sys/module/i915 ] || [ x`cat /proc/dri/0/name | grep i915` != x ]; then
 # the i915 kmod also drives the i830 and i855 chips nowadays, but they
 # still need quirks on at least Linux 2.6.24.
 PRODID=`hal-get-property --udi $HAL_PROP_INFO_UDI --key system.hardware.primary_video.product`
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Re: Notable Changes to Jaunty's PulseAudio

2009-03-13 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Dan,

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:50:32PM -0800, Dan Chen wrote:
 The latest PulseAudio upload in jaunty actually effects the
 autospawn change intended in the previous upload. I anticipate
 an outpouring of Launchpad activity over it.

 My previous e-mail was woefully lacking in rationale, so I'll
 address both the enabling of autospawn and the disabling of
 glitch-free.

[...]

 The objective for shipping jaunty is have both autospawn and
 glitch-free enabled, but the testing period will help determine
 which of those options is feasible in time for release. Thank
 you for helping test-drive jaunty!

What has been the outcome of this testing?  The upgrade was fairly painless
for me, but I know that may not be indicative; are there still race
conditions outstanding that pose a risk to the stability of the jaunty
release?

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gnome-pilot 2.0.17 released in January, Ubuntu still shipping 2.0.15

2009-03-13 Thread Matt Davey
I hope this is the right list for contacting the Ubuntu gnome-pilot
packager.

gnome-pilot 2.0.17 was released in January 2009.
gnome-pilot 2.0.16 was released in February 2008.
Ubuntu is shipping 2.0.15.

New releases are announced on gnome-announce-list and gnome-pilot-list.
Let me know if you'd like me to mail a specific Ubuntu list or contact
when I make releases.

Best regards,

Matt Davey
gnome-pilot maintainer

Matt DaveyIn Milan, traffic lights are regulations, in Rome they are
mcda...@mrao.cam.ac.uksuggestions, in Naples they are Christmas 
decorations.


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Re: Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon

2009-03-13 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Monday 09 March 2009 01:09:34 Darren Albers wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:45 PM, (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo

 ubu...@bugabundo.net wrote:
  human-icon-theme (0.33.2) jaunty; urgency=low
 
   * Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0%
  signal strength icon
 
   -- Kenneth Wimer kw...@ubuntu.com  Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:36:53 +0100
 
 
  Can this be reverted?
  The new icon is very deceiving, making me think I have my WiFi On, but
  with no signal. I rather have the old icon back.
  Thanks
 
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 Normally I wouldn't get involved in a usability dispute (Usability to
 me = Terminal) but my wife used my Ubuntu laptop and couldn't figure
 out why she couldn't get out when the wireless icon showed that way (I
 had it off from using an Aircard).   If we don't want to use the
 normal icon please consider something more obvious like the bars icon
 with a slash through it?

Right, testing has shown that we needed to work on this some more. I've now 
added a red box with a white X in it to denote the problem. Test it, once it 
is sponsored in main for Jaunty.

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Re: Main frozen for Alpha 6

2009-03-13 Thread Paulo Silva
i saw from slashdot twitter that files on ext4 are being missed? i
confess i were expecting this happening, since ext4 is still too
recent -  maybe would be a good idea to release ext4 only on Karmic
Koala? Defaultly, i'm not feeling too courageous, as user, on try ext4
that soon...

On 3/10/09, Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Dear developers,

 Jaunty Alpha 6 is scheduled for this Thursday, Mar 12, so the milestone
 freeze is now in effect.  Please take care that any packages you upload to
 main between now and the Alpha 6 release will help us in the goal of a high
 quality and timely alpha, and hold any disruptive or unnecessary uploads
 until after the alpha is out.  Again, this means the primary focus should be
 on resolving these bugs:

   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+bugs?field.milestone=2214

 The number of bugs targeted to this milestone as blockers is small, but
 there's plenty of other work to be done in getting the archive in a
 consistent state so that we don't have uninstallable packages for the
 alpha-6 milestone:

   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive#Consistency

 Remember that this is a soft freeze, so you are each responsible for
 making sure your uploads are appropriate - Launchpad will not be your safety
 net.[1]

 Packages that are not seeded on the CDs (i.e., most packages in universe,
 with the exception of UbuntuStudio, Xubuntu, and Mythbuntu packages) may be
 uploaded as usual.

 Cheers,
 --
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 On behalf of the Ubuntu release team

 [1]
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-January/000519.html

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Re: Main frozen for Alpha 6

2009-03-13 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Paulo,

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:00:07PM +, Paulo Silva wrote:
 i saw from slashdot twitter that files on ext4 are being missed? i
 confess i were expecting this happening, since ext4 is still too
 recent -  maybe would be a good idea to release ext4 only on Karmic
 Koala? Defaultly, i'm not feeling too courageous, as user, on try ext4
 that soon...

You appear to be referring to a Slashdot story covering the recent reports
of empty files when powering off systems uncleanly.

As the Slashdot article acknowledges, and as discussed in
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-March/027689.html,
this is not a bug in ext4 at all, but rather a bug in the assumptions of
certain desktop environments which expect behavior from the filesystem that
is not (and never has been) guaranteed by POSIX.

Since ext4 is not being offered as the default in jaunty, and will therefore
only be used by users who go out of their way to select a different
filesystem, I don't think these bugs in other pieces of software are a
reason to exclude ext4 from the jaunty release.  Furthermore, as Ted notes
in the bug log, the same assumptions are also a problem on xfs, which has
been an install option for years.

So this is a sound reason for users to not use ext4 for their Ubuntu 9.04
installs if system reliability is a problem for them (as it is for most of
us), but not a reason for pulling ext4 out of the release.

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Re: Flash player 10 non free (or free indeed)

2009-03-13 Thread Surfaz Gemon Meme
If you have more info about your system (flash and ubuntu releases) tell us.
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Re: gnome-pilot 2.0.17 released in January, Ubuntu still shipping 2.0.15

2009-03-13 Thread Surfaz Gemon Meme
2009/3/5 Matt Davey mcda...@mrao.cam.ac.uk

 I hope this is the right list for contacting the Ubuntu gnome-pilot
 packager.


Please, open a bug in:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-pilot

And follow this rules:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
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Re: Flash player 10 non free (or free indeed)

2009-03-13 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
It may help to mention that :
gestor=Manager
posterior=Later

You can get get information on relevant software installed by entering

lsb_release -r ; dpkg -l *flash* *swfdec* *gnash* *firefox* ;
ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ ~/.mozilla/plugins

into a terminal.

If this is a bug it can be reported to
  https://bugs.launchpad.net

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