Subject: Re: Shouldn't update-manager's "check for updates" setting have an "hourly" option?

2010-06-24 Thread Davyd McColl
And there I was, thinking there was something wrong with my
recently-upgraded machine! Being a lazy dev, I just added a cron job to
apt-get update on the hour... So I get hourly checks, as per the original
thread, but this isn't exactly friendly for the average user ):


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Re: Shouldn't update-manager's "check for updates" setting have an "hourly" option?

2010-06-24 Thread Scott Kitterman


"Loïc Martin"  wrote:

>On 23 June 2010 20:18, Scott Kitterman  wrote:
>> AIUI, it wouldn't help much on Ubuntu since by default u-m doesn't pop up 
>> it's window for security updates if it's been opened in the last two days.
>
>Why that may happen on Kubuntu, it hasn't been true on any post-Jaunty
>Ubuntu releases .

Kubuntu uses a different system with it's own problems (which are being 
addressed).

>By default, u-m desn't pop up whether there are security updates or
>not, even if the user hasn't updated for month. I can run for weeks
>before remembering to fire up u-m manually, and the users I've
>installed Ubuntu on don't do that, so they end up month late in
>updates (even though they were installing updates regularly
>pre-Jaunty). Jaunty had it open behind other windows, so there was a
>chance some users would notice it if (and only if) they were not just
>having Firefox full screen all the time. With Karmic and Lucid, u-m
>doesn't show at all.
>
>For inexperienced users, automatic upgrades might be a choice to
>consider, if only they were not the kind of users that could handle it
>the worst, since they won't remember to save their work regularly.
>

I'm a bit surprised to hear Ubuntu doesn't notify about updates. 

Scott K

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Re: Shouldn't update-manager's "check for updates" setting have an "hourly" option?

2010-06-24 Thread Loïc Martin
On 23 June 2010 20:18, Scott Kitterman  wrote:
> AIUI, it wouldn't help much on Ubuntu since by default u-m doesn't pop up 
> it's window for security updates if it's been opened in the last two days.

Why that may happen on Kubuntu, it hasn't been true on any post-Jaunty
Ubuntu releases .

By default, u-m desn't pop up whether there are security updates or
not, even if the user hasn't updated for month. I can run for weeks
before remembering to fire up u-m manually, and the users I've
installed Ubuntu on don't do that, so they end up month late in
updates (even though they were installing updates regularly
pre-Jaunty). Jaunty had it open behind other windows, so there was a
chance some users would notice it if (and only if) they were not just
having Firefox full screen all the time. With Karmic and Lucid, u-m
doesn't show at all.

For inexperienced users, automatic upgrades might be a choice to
consider, if only they were not the kind of users that could handle it
the worst, since they won't remember to save their work regularly.

Cheers,
Loïc

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