Re: IronPython and Mono are very old. How can we get an update?
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Vernon Cole wrote: > By another strange twist of fate, there is a PPA on launchpad which > allegedly has a current version of mono, but it is only built for LTS > versions of Ubuntu, so to get the latest version of mono, I have to > unload Maverick and install an earlier version of Ubuntu. This is > starting to sound like an episode of "The Twilight Zone." BTW, here are some standard workarounds: 1) Attempt to install the version of Mono found in the PPA on your maverick install. Packages built against older versions of libraries will often work when linked against newer versions. 2) Install debootstrap and install the later Mono in a LTS chroot. 3) Virtual machines > So, back to my original question: What can I do to help get the distro > release up to the "latest stable version?" Should I be working on > Natty? It is possible the distro release is intentionally following the LTS releases of Mono. In which case it may be better if you can find an easy workaround, or persuade the PPA maintainer to support non-LTS releases of Ubuntu. -- John C. McCabe-Dansted -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: IronPython and Mono are very old. How can we get an update?
>From the Ubuntu mono page (http://mono-project.com/DistroPackages/Ubuntu): > Mono is considered a "core framework" in Ubuntu, meaning > it has many applications depending upon it (roughly 40 > applications). Due to this, the chance of one of those > applications breaking due to unexpected changes in their > underlying framework is considered too high to risk an update. Given this, the chance of getting an SRU in for any current version is effectively zero. I think getting it into Natty is your best bet at this point. I don't really know who you would want to talk to in order to get that done, but perhaps somebody else on the list could help? I'm sorry that your experience thus far hasn't been great, hopefully Ubuntu can do better in the future. Cheers, Evan On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Vernon Cole wrote: > Hello, Evan, > > I suppose you noticed that there is not a debian package on the mono > download list? Their cross reference links lead to exactly what we > already have. > > By another strange twist of fate, there is a PPA on launchpad which > allegedly has a current version of mono, but it is only built for LTS > versions of Ubuntu, so to get the latest version of mono, I have to > unload Maverick and install an earlier version of Ubuntu. This is > starting to sound like an episode of "The Twilight Zone." > > I am, as we speak, installing a new workstation which will have enough > resources that I would be able to build mono from source, as soon as > the 300MB of updates finish installing. (Doing it on my laptop, which > already has two operating systems and seven versions of Python on it > was too much.) > That would do for testing. But then I would have to distribute my own > versions of mono and IronPython as well as my actual application code, > so it's not a good final answer. > > So, back to my original question: What can I do to help get the distro > release up to the "latest stable version?" Should I be working on > Natty? > -- > Vernon > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Evan Huus wrote: >> Hi Vernon, >> >> Welcome to the list. As far as I know this is the right place to raise >> this sort of question. >> >> Which version of mono you have probably depends on which release of >> Ubuntu you're using. Ubuntu 10.10 (the latest stable release of >> Ubuntu) has mono 2.6.7 which is the latest long-term stable release of >> mono according to http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html >> >> RedHat, oddly enough, has mono 2.10, which is the latest release of >> mono, but is not a long-term support release. The question is probably >> more why RedHat chose to avoid the long-term release rather than why >> Ubuntu doesn't have the absolute latest version. >> >> Hope this helps, >> Evan >> >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Vernon Cole wrote: >>> Hello. >>> I am new to the list, please forgive and let me know if this is not >>> the appropriate forum. >>> >>> I was very pleased when IronPython appeared on synaptic -- even though >>> I was a bit concerned that the version was 2.6B2 about the time that >>> 2.6 was released. No problem, given the regularity with which Ubuntu >>> updates their packages, so I waited. >>> >>> A short while ago, I contributed a patch to the IronPython standard >>> library. I received a somewhat acid comment that my patch had not been >>> tested on Mono/Linux. True, it had not. I downloaded the current >>> source of IronPython from github, and discovered that I cannot build, >>> because my version of Mono is too old. In order to get a current >>> version of Mono, my sources suggested, just switch to Redhat!!! WTF?! >>> _Redhat_ has the latest stuff and Ubuntu is dragging in ancient >>> history? >>> >>> Something is wrong here! >>> >>> IronPython 2.7 was released last week, with my patch and without the >>> requested test. >>> >>> Other than grouching on this list, what can I do to get my favourite >>> distro up to speed? >>> -- >>> Vernon Cole >>> >>> -- >>> Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list >>> Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss >>> >> > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: IronPython and Mono are very old. How can we get an update?
Hello, Evan, I suppose you noticed that there is not a debian package on the mono download list? Their cross reference links lead to exactly what we already have. By another strange twist of fate, there is a PPA on launchpad which allegedly has a current version of mono, but it is only built for LTS versions of Ubuntu, so to get the latest version of mono, I have to unload Maverick and install an earlier version of Ubuntu. This is starting to sound like an episode of "The Twilight Zone." I am, as we speak, installing a new workstation which will have enough resources that I would be able to build mono from source, as soon as the 300MB of updates finish installing. (Doing it on my laptop, which already has two operating systems and seven versions of Python on it was too much.) That would do for testing. But then I would have to distribute my own versions of mono and IronPython as well as my actual application code, so it's not a good final answer. So, back to my original question: What can I do to help get the distro release up to the "latest stable version?" Should I be working on Natty? -- Vernon On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Evan Huus wrote: > Hi Vernon, > > Welcome to the list. As far as I know this is the right place to raise > this sort of question. > > Which version of mono you have probably depends on which release of > Ubuntu you're using. Ubuntu 10.10 (the latest stable release of > Ubuntu) has mono 2.6.7 which is the latest long-term stable release of > mono according to http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html > > RedHat, oddly enough, has mono 2.10, which is the latest release of > mono, but is not a long-term support release. The question is probably > more why RedHat chose to avoid the long-term release rather than why > Ubuntu doesn't have the absolute latest version. > > Hope this helps, > Evan > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Vernon Cole wrote: >> Hello. >> I am new to the list, please forgive and let me know if this is not >> the appropriate forum. >> >> I was very pleased when IronPython appeared on synaptic -- even though >> I was a bit concerned that the version was 2.6B2 about the time that >> 2.6 was released. No problem, given the regularity with which Ubuntu >> updates their packages, so I waited. >> >> A short while ago, I contributed a patch to the IronPython standard >> library. I received a somewhat acid comment that my patch had not been >> tested on Mono/Linux. True, it had not. I downloaded the current >> source of IronPython from github, and discovered that I cannot build, >> because my version of Mono is too old. In order to get a current >> version of Mono, my sources suggested, just switch to Redhat!!! WTF?! >> _Redhat_ has the latest stuff and Ubuntu is dragging in ancient >> history? >> >> Something is wrong here! >> >> IronPython 2.7 was released last week, with my patch and without the >> requested test. >> >> Other than grouching on this list, what can I do to get my favourite >> distro up to speed? >> -- >> Vernon Cole >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list >> Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss >> > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: IronPython and Mono are very old. How can we get an update?
Hi Vernon, Welcome to the list. As far as I know this is the right place to raise this sort of question. Which version of mono you have probably depends on which release of Ubuntu you're using. Ubuntu 10.10 (the latest stable release of Ubuntu) has mono 2.6.7 which is the latest long-term stable release of mono according to http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html RedHat, oddly enough, has mono 2.10, which is the latest release of mono, but is not a long-term support release. The question is probably more why RedHat chose to avoid the long-term release rather than why Ubuntu doesn't have the absolute latest version. Hope this helps, Evan On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Vernon Cole wrote: > Hello. > I am new to the list, please forgive and let me know if this is not > the appropriate forum. > > I was very pleased when IronPython appeared on synaptic -- even though > I was a bit concerned that the version was 2.6B2 about the time that > 2.6 was released. No problem, given the regularity with which Ubuntu > updates their packages, so I waited. > > A short while ago, I contributed a patch to the IronPython standard > library. I received a somewhat acid comment that my patch had not been > tested on Mono/Linux. True, it had not. I downloaded the current > source of IronPython from github, and discovered that I cannot build, > because my version of Mono is too old. In order to get a current > version of Mono, my sources suggested, just switch to Redhat!!! WTF?! > _Redhat_ has the latest stuff and Ubuntu is dragging in ancient > history? > > Something is wrong here! > > IronPython 2.7 was released last week, with my patch and without the > requested test. > > Other than grouching on this list, what can I do to get my favourite > distro up to speed? > -- > Vernon Cole > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: IronPython and Mono are very old. How can we get an update?
On 03/18/2011 05:08 PM, Vernon Cole wrote: Hello. I am new to the list, please forgive and let me know if this is not the appropriate forum. I was very pleased when IronPython appeared on synaptic -- even though I was a bit concerned that the version was 2.6B2 about the time that 2.6 was released. No problem, given the regularity with which Ubuntu updates their packages, so I waited. A short while ago, I contributed a patch to the IronPython standard library. I received a somewhat acid comment that my patch had not been tested on Mono/Linux. True, it had not. I downloaded the current source of IronPython from github, and discovered that I cannot build, because my version of Mono is too old. In order to get a current version of Mono, my sources suggested, just switch to Redhat!!! WTF?! _Redhat_ has the latest stuff and Ubuntu is dragging in ancient history? Something is wrong here! IronPython 2.7 was released last week, with my patch and without the requested test. Other than grouching on this list, what can I do to get my favourite distro up to speed? -- Vernon Cole You can always go the source and compile it yourself...http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html Find the maintainers of the package and I'm sure they'll welcome any contribution. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
IronPython and Mono are very old. How can we get an update?
Hello. I am new to the list, please forgive and let me know if this is not the appropriate forum. I was very pleased when IronPython appeared on synaptic -- even though I was a bit concerned that the version was 2.6B2 about the time that 2.6 was released. No problem, given the regularity with which Ubuntu updates their packages, so I waited. A short while ago, I contributed a patch to the IronPython standard library. I received a somewhat acid comment that my patch had not been tested on Mono/Linux. True, it had not. I downloaded the current source of IronPython from github, and discovered that I cannot build, because my version of Mono is too old. In order to get a current version of Mono, my sources suggested, just switch to Redhat!!! WTF?! _Redhat_ has the latest stuff and Ubuntu is dragging in ancient history? Something is wrong here! IronPython 2.7 was released last week, with my patch and without the requested test. Other than grouching on this list, what can I do to get my favourite distro up to speed? -- Vernon Cole -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss