Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3

2012-04-03 Thread David Klasinc
Please, quote less ... ;)

On 04/03/2012 05:38 AM, solaris manzur wrote:

 when i press win + R i get a zoom level on my desktop then when i press
 it again i get a second one, BUT i have no way to go back to normal.

Run CCSM and disable the Enhanced Desktop Zoom plugin.

Regards,
David




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Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-03 Thread Vernon Cole
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@ubuntu.comwrote:

 Ditën e Mon, 02/04/2012 më 13.57 -0600, Vernon Cole ka shkruar:
  So there it is.  All we want is all the new stuff -- along with
  everything we had before.  Is that too much to ask?

 There is nothing preventing you from installing and using the classic
 gnome interface.


I tried that once, and got only old generic gnome stuff. all of the neat
Ubuntu stuff was missing.  As I said, I am greedy and want both.


 This list isn't about Unity design or implementation details discussion.
 If you want to discuss those problems, file bugs or bring it up on the
 appropriate Unity list (probably unity-design).


Dear Rodney:

Perhaps you have actually pinpointed the problem. If Unity developers don't
realize that they are also Ubuntu developers, then no wonder things don't
work quite like they ought. Maybe somebody in this group needs to make sure
that somebody from that group is assigned to follow this one.

  At your suggestion, I went looking around for some appropriate list.  I
found a blog which seems to be used by the designers to talk with each
other, but no list as such, or much of a way for an outsider to present
ideas -- especially critical ideas.Do you have a URL to refer me to, or
were you just trying to get rid of a lurker?  I am _trying_ to contribute
to my favorite distro, and I have learned over the years that a timely
question from a concerned onlooker can sometimes eliminate real problems.
When you are driving down the road and notice that people keep pointing at
your car, you probably should stop and find out what they are pointing at
-- it's probably the gas cap you forgot to replace.

A quick glance at the Unity blogs makes me fear that they are so busy
envisioning the wonderful trees they are planning to grow, that they have
forgotten to tend the forest today.  I have been guilty of the same thing
-- so busy making a new program design elegant. that I forgot that I also
had to make it _work_.

Please forward this to the appropriate persons.  I'm afraid that pointing
and shouting warnings is really the most I can contribute. Learning how to
navigate your bureaucracy and whom to lobby is a bit beyond me.
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Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-03 Thread Lanoxx


On 03/04/12 10:26, Vernon Cole wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@ubuntu.com
 mailto:rodney.da...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
 Ditën e Mon, 02/04/2012 më 13.57 -0600, Vernon Cole ka shkruar:
  So there it is.  All we want is all the new stuff -- along with
  everything we had before.  Is that too much to ask?
 
 There is nothing preventing you from installing and using the classic
 gnome interface.
 
 
 I tried that once, and got only old generic gnome stuff. all of the neat
 Ubuntu stuff was missing.  As I said, I am greedy and want both.

More and more applets are being ported to GTK+3 and will be available in
the classic mode of gnome 3. For example with the 12.04 release you can
install the indicator-applet package again, which gives you back all the
nice indicators that ubuntu used to have in gnome 2 in older versions.
Together with the gnome-tweak-tool there is really not much difference
to how gnome 2 used to be.

 
 
 This list isn't about Unity design or implementation details discussion.
 If you want to discuss those problems, file bugs or bring it up on the
 appropriate Unity list (probably unity-design).
 
  
 Dear Rodney:
 
 Perhaps you have actually pinpointed the problem. If Unity developers
 don't realize that they are also Ubuntu developers, then no wonder
 things don't work quite like they ought. Maybe somebody in this group
 needs to make sure that somebody from that group is assigned to follow
 this one.
 
   At your suggestion, I went looking around for some appropriate
 list.  I found a blog which seems to be used by the designers to talk
 with each other, but no list as such, or much of a way for an outsider
 to present ideas -- especially critical ideas.Do you have a URL to
 refer me to, or were you just trying to get rid of a lurker?  I am
 _trying_ to contribute to my favorite distro, and I have learned over
 the years that a timely question from a concerned onlooker can sometimes
 eliminate real problems.  When you are driving down the road and notice
 that people keep pointing at your car, you probably should stop and find
 out what they are pointing at -- it's probably the gas cap you forgot to
 replace. 
 
 A quick glance at the Unity blogs makes me fear that they are so busy
 envisioning the wonderful trees they are planning to grow, that they
 have forgotten to tend the forest today.  I have been guilty of the same
 thing -- so busy making a new program design elegant. that I forgot that
 I also had to make it _work_.
 
 Please forward this to the appropriate persons.  I'm afraid that
 pointing and shouting warnings is really the most I can contribute.
 Learning how to navigate your bureaucracy and whom to lobby is a bit
 beyond me.
 --
 Vernon
 
 
 

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Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-03 Thread Martin Pool
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Vernon Cole vernondc...@gmail.com wrote:
   At your suggestion, I went looking around for some appropriate list.  I
 found a blog which seems to be used by the designers to talk with each
 other, but no list as such, or much of a way for an outsider to present
 ideas -- especially critical ideas.

I guess you googled 'unity design list', but the results didn't give
you a clear indication what to do.

When I do that, I find http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/ which
points to https://launchpad.net/~unity-design (which has a somewhat
disconcerting description) which is a public list you can join, which
has a ton of discussion from unity developers and others about all
topics of unity design https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/.
That would be a good place to talk about it, rather than here, which
has lots of non-Unity-related people.

m

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Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3

2012-04-03 Thread Phillip Susi
Please don't post completely unrelated, off topic brain farts as replies 
to random threads.  Start a new thread, with an appropriate subject, on 
the appropriate mailing list, and write a complete and detailed message. 
 Or better yet, file a bug report.


On 4/2/2012 11:38 PM, solaris manzur wrote:

when i press win + R i get a zoom level on my desktop then when i press it
again i get a second one, BUT i have no way to go back to normal. THIS IS
HAPPENING IN 12.04 beta 2. PLEASE WE ARE ALMOST DONE AND THIS IS STILL A
PROBLEM!

2012/4/2 solaris manzursl.sola...@gmail.com


ubuntu 12.04 beta 2
I have no audio. audio is down.
flash is not working




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Re: g++ bug on Lucid that prevent hylafax to work correctly

2012-04-03 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Hi,
during two weeks nobody answered this question. Is this the wrong list?
Who should I bother for this problem?

Thanks,
Giuseppe

Il giorno mar, 27/03/2012 alle 16.21 +0200, Giuseppe Sacco ha scritto:
 Hi all,
 this is a request for help for fixing a bug in g++ compiler shipped with
 Lucid.
 
 The problem is shown in bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/600219 and
 it has also shortly reported against g++ as launchpad bug #955013. A
 quick summary of the g++ relevant part is also on hylafax bugzilla:
 http://bugs.hylafax.org/show_bug.cgi?id=941#c9 .
 
 What happens is that a pointer to an object instance is trashed
 during a method execution.
 
 Is there anyone that may help on fixing this?
 
 Thank you very much,
 Giuseppe



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