Re: Specialized kernel/base system for VM's/VE's

2012-09-24 Thread Emmet Hikory
Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> is anyone currently working on optimized/minimized kernel
> and base packages for VM's ?
> 
> My goal is having a really minimized base system for VMs
> and VEs, which don't have anything that's really needed
> there (eg. VEs dont need all the kernel related stuff,
> VMs just only those parts which are really required for
> running in an virtio-based environment, etc, etc).

I suspect you're looking for the linux-virtual metapackage,
and dependencies thereof for your kernel.  You may wish to look
at the available Cloud Images [1], which are likely suitable for
deployment in your target environment with little or no modification.

If the selection of modules in linux-virtual is insuffient
for your target environment, the other modules are also available
in the dependencies of the linux-image-extra-virtual package.

1: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/

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Re: Specialized kernel/base system for VM's/VE's

2012-09-24 Thread Nicolas Michel
Hello,

I don't think you'll see a that lightweight kernel in distributions like
Ubuntu. But saying that, you probably don't know how the Linux kernel work:
most of the functions of the kernel (except core functions) can be compiled
directly into the kernel or compiled as a module. Distributions like Ubuntu
are mostly using module when available. With modules, when your computer
need a function that is not in the kernel core it loads the related module
into the memory.

Conclusion: the only thing modules takes is disk space (try a du -sch
/lib/modules to know how much) but not memory or other ressources until
they are loaded.

So, compiling a very lightweight kernel (much more that the Ubuntu one) is
possible. You can do it following tuto on the net. But it doesn't make
sense on a VM. It only makes sense on embeded hardware where each megabytes
is good to save.


2012/9/24 Enrico Weigelt 

> Hi folks,
>
>
> is anyone currently working on optimized/minimized kernel
> and base packages for VM's ?
>
> My goal is having a really minimized base system for VMs
> and VEs, which don't have anything that's really needed
> there (eg. VEs dont need all the kernel related stuff,
> VMs just only those parts which are really required for
> running in an virtio-based environment, etc, etc).
>
>
> cu
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> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards
>
> Enrico Weigelt
> VNC - Virtual Network Consult GmbH
> Head Of Development
>
> Pariser Platz 4a, D-10117 Berlin
> Tel.: +49 (30) 3464615-20
> Fax: +49 (30) 3464615-59
>
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Re: ext4 recovery/deleted orphans on reboot...

2012-09-24 Thread Evan Huus
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Daniel J Blueman  wrote:
> In Ubuntu 12.10 pre-release, I've frequently been observing ext4
> recovery has been needed after reboot [1].
>
> This clearly isn't expected, however could be a side-effect of eg
> incomplete flushing after unmount before the ACPI/cf8 reset vector is
> hit.
>
> So, is this thought to be a kernel issue or userspace? I'm using a
> 256GB Samsung 830 SSD, but was seeing this on an OCZ Vertex 3
> (Sandforce) SSD also.

Without more information my money would be on a kernel issue, although
it may be something very low-level like upstart.

Evan

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ext4 recovery/deleted orphans on reboot...

2012-09-24 Thread Daniel J Blueman
In Ubuntu 12.10 pre-release, I've frequently been observing ext4
recovery has been needed after reboot [1].

This clearly isn't expected, however could be a side-effect of eg
incomplete flushing after unmount before the ACPI/cf8 reset vector is
hit.

So, is this thought to be a kernel issue or userspace? I'm using a
256GB Samsung 830 SSD, but was seeing this on an OCZ Vertex 3
(Sandforce) SSD also.

Many thanks,
  Daniel

--- [1]

EXT4-fs (sda2): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem
EXT4-fs (sda2): write access will be enabled during recovery
EXT4-fs (sda2): orphan cleanup on readonly fs
EXT4-fs (sda2): ext4_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 394069
EXT4-fs (sda2): 1 orphan inode deleted
EXT4-fs (sda2): recovery complete
EXT4-fs (sda2): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
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Specialized kernel/base system for VM's/VE's

2012-09-24 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks,


is anyone currently working on optimized/minimized kernel
and base packages for VM's ?

My goal is having a really minimized base system for VMs
and VEs, which don't have anything that's really needed
there (eg. VEs dont need all the kernel related stuff,
VMs just only those parts which are really required for
running in an virtio-based environment, etc, etc).


cu
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Head Of Development 

Pariser Platz 4a, D-10117 Berlin
Tel.: +49 (30) 3464615-20
Fax: +49 (30) 3464615-59

enrico.weig...@vnc.biz; www.vnc.de 

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