Re: Wallpapers for Ubuntu 16.04

[yannubu...@gmail.com]

thanks Alberto for your proposal, but same for me, I don't think they are
good as wallpapers  (cannot clearly see the files on my desktop any more).
regards
Yann

2015-12-20 3:28 GMT+01:00 Alberto Salvia Novella :

> Ralf:
>
>> It's nice to discover lights and things in the road building lines, when
>> taking a look at Night Lights.
>>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> Xen:
> > Doesn't make a rat's difference.
>
> It is a chipmunk actually 
>
> Yes, it makes a big difference. Wallpapers are designed to look good as
> wallpapers, and the feed lose these details.
>
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Re: Wallpapers for Ubuntu 16.04

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Yan:

Cannot clearly see the files on my desktop any more.


What do you mean, they look blurry?




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Clamav 0.99

[FoxNET Support]

Hello
When will update for clamav 0.99 for Ubuntu Trusty?

Exist it a PPA version?

Thank you

Michel

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Re: KDE packages

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Oscar:

Lot's of KDE packages breaks standard Unity visual
elements and functions and can also pull in lots of unwanted
dependencies, it can be hard to clean up and restore the system to a
working state again. It is also hard for inexperienced users to identify
what packages belongs to what environment.


Thanks for reporting. I have realized that you were right:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/apt/+bug/1528028




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Please, complete this bug report

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Please enter any package manager that is unlisted in:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/apt/+bug/1528028

Thanks.





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USB support in 15.04

[Willem Ferguson]

I use a Garmin Etrex 20 GPS that can function as a mass storage device.
When I open the mass storage device, Ubuntu hangs.
When I use a Virtualbox VM of Fedora 22 on the same Ubuntu host, Fedora 
opens the mass storage device perfectly.
Does this mean there is a problem with USB access of mass storage 
devices on Ubuntu 15.04?

Kind regards,
willem


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Re: Please, complete this bug report

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 19:49:53 +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
>Please enter any package manager that is unlisted in:
>https://bugs.launchpad.net/apt/+bug/1528028

"For example if I install the "cortina" package, it takes with it the
GNOME Display Manager and plenty of wallpapers. Then if I uninstall it
and do "sudo apt-get autoremove" those packages are not detected as
unused."


Hi,

it's not a bug of the package management, it's an user error.

They were not automatically installed to satisfy dependencies.
Installing a recommended or suggested dependency should be
considered as being explicitly installed and you don't want that
autoremove affects explicitly installed packages. 

GNOME Display Manager isn't a hard dependency, it's an optional
dependency, for Ubuntu one of the _recommended_ dependencies, take a
look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/cortina
-> http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/gnome-shell

If you're using apt-get, then install with the
"--no-install-recommends" option. If you're using a GUI instead of
apt-get, read it's fine manual.

Regards,
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Re: libreoffice 5.0.3 crash when use pdfimprt on ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit

[Michael Parchet]

Hello,

Which libreoffice stable version could I install on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit ?
It seems that libreoffice last version is 5.04. If is a stable version please 
tell me how to install it on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS if possible throw a papa

Thanks for your support

Best regards

mparchet 

> Le 20 déc. 2015 à 01:58, Alberto Salvia Novella  a 
> écrit :
> 
> Michael:
>> Could you help me please ?
> 
> How?
> 
> If there's a bug because of using experimental software, how could we help 
> you?
> 
> 

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Re: libreoffice 5.0.3 crash when use pdfimprt on ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Michael Parchet:
> Which libreoffice stable version could I install on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
> 64 bit?

The one in the official repositories?




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Re: libreoffice 5.0.3 crash when use pdfimprt on ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit

[Michael Parchet]

> Le 20 déc. 2015 à 17:58, Alberto Salvia Novella  a 
> écrit :
> 
> Michael Parchet:
> > Which libreoffice stable version could I install on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
> > 64 bit?
> 
> The one in the official repositories?
> 
> Yes, the official ppa Libreoffice 5.0

Not this ppa seen not contains libreoffice 5.04

Is it possible to put libreoffice 5.04 in this ppa ?

Thanks for your support 

Best regards

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Is this list appropriate for technical support?

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

In the short time I have been in this list I have seen plenty of request 
asking for things that looked like technical support.


Is this list intended for that?




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Re: USB support in 15.04

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Willem Ferguson:

When I open the mass storage device, Ubuntu hangs.

>

Does this mean there is a problem with USB access of mass storage
devices on Ubuntu 15.04?


The operating system shall recover from any error. So yes, this is a bug.

Please report it to:
(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Reporting_non-crash_hardware_and_desktop_application_bugs)




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Re: Is this list appropriate for technical support?

[J Fernyhough]

On 20 December 2015 at 19:26, Alberto Salvia Novella 
wrote:

> In the short time I have been in this list I have seen plenty of request
> asking for things that looked like technical support.
>
> Is this list intended for that?
>
>

Not really. This is one of the reasons developers don't post to it.

J
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Re: Please, complete this bug report

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Ralf Mardorf:

It's not a bug of the package management, it's an user error.


What is the likelihood of these people making the error?:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Average%20users




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Re: llvm 3.7 broken in mint because upstream

[Gianfranco Costamagna]

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Hi,

the package was never built on i386, so I didn't put much effort in
fixing it.

thanks to your mail I speeded up the task in my todolist, and cooked a
patch against llvm-3.7.

I'm not sure mesa stuff should work this way (being broken on amd64
because of a missing i386 compiler seems somewhat strange, but I don't
want to investigate the rationale behind this).

I updated with a patch the bug that Robie opened on llvm-3.7
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-3.7/+bug/152786
5

I basically disable the LLDB testsuite on i386, because seems that the
buildd system hangs with it and gets killed after 150 minutes of
inactivity.

We already have it disabled for some arm* architectures, so even if it
isn't a good solution (and probably there is a bug against i686,
because the same build on Debian i386 works).

Not sure, but at least it has been built successfully.

cheers,

G.
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Re: Please, complete this bug report

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 20:23:47 +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
>Ralf Mardorf:
>> It's not a bug of the package management, it's an user error.  
>
>What is the likelihood of these people making the error?:
>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Average%20users

"Average users are humans that you can found in the street. This is to
say, usually they aren't computer technicians."


Hi,

humans need to learn the most simple things, e.g. to use forks and
knives, without being a maker of forks and knives.

Please recommend how thought-reading should be done by a package
manager?

Debian/Ubuntu already split optional dependencies. Some optional
dependencies are recommended and others are suggested. This is not done
by upstream of the software and user-centric distros such as Arch don't
provide it.

The default is to install recommended dependencies, but not suggested
dependencies. There are different ways to change the default, one is to
temporarily disable it by using apt-get with the
"--no-install-recommends" option.

Assumed the default would become to install no optional dependencies,
then a lot of your averaged users will complain to get incomplete
applications.

Any idea how to solve this? Sure, autoremove could consider recommended
dependencies as automatically installed, but likely already now some
users complain that autoremove uninstalls software they still want to
use.

IOW what you consider as not being user-friendly is the lowest common
denominator for your so called averaged user. It's not that way to fit
to the needs of geeks.

Regards,
Ralf
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