RE: ubuntu-bug (was Bug reporting for Ubuntu Server? WTF?)

2010-02-20 Thread Ethan Baldridge
Even if you have X, another problem is that ubuntu-bug and apport ignore
the $(HTTP_PROXY|http_proxy) variable, so it becomes very difficult to
file bugs from work if you're behind a non-transparent proxy.

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Patrick Goetz
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Subject: ubuntu-bug (was Bug reporting for Ubuntu Server? WTF?)

 Subject: Re: Bug reporting for Ubuntu Server? WTF?
 From: Brian Murray br...@ubuntu.com
 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:49:58 -0800

 
 The ReportingBugs wiki page also has a section about Filing bugs when
 off-line which discusses how to use apport-cli to save a report that
 you can then report from another system with X and a browser.
  
...
 
 If you were to use the off-line filing method a web browser would be
  opened where you could then provide feedback as to what you are
sending.


Thanks for the tip.  Note that there is no mention of the latter 
paragraph in the section Filing Bugs when off-line, which is why I 
didn't see how this was helpful to me.

Since I frequently work in a terminal (with ssh X forwarding turned off 
or on servers with no X packages installed),  I think the usability of 
ubuntu-bug could be simply improved -- see below.


 
 Subject: Re: Bug reporting for Ubuntu Server? WTF?
 From: Mario Vukelic mario.vuke...@dantian.org
 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:01:26 +0100

 
 I think the problem is that ubuntu-bug excepts you to know that
 additional steps (duplication search, etc.) including a comment input
 field will follow in a browser window after you press the Send button.
 With the current UI I can understand if someone comes to the
conclusion,
 like the OP, that the report will be simply sent without his input.
 

Exactly! I had no idea that ubuntu-bug planned to open a browser window 
to allow me to add comments, and had no intention of sending a bug 
report which I knew contained no useful information.  Perhaps ubuntu-bug

could be simply improved by having the program check for the presence of

a DISPLAY variable, and if not found, provide an alternative user 
interface that either allows you identify a file with comments on the 
command line or instructs you specifically to keep the report file and 
send it from graphical console?  Posted below is an entire terminal 
ubuntu-bug session -- surely I'm not the only one who finds this to be 
confusing.

Also, I'm still bothered by a linux bug reporting system that requires a

graphical interface.  When I'm working on a server, I want to be able to

do as much as possible there, including filing bugs.


---
pgo...@newton:~$ ubuntu-bug samba

*** Collecting problem information

The collected information can be sent to the developers to improve the
application. This might take a few minutes.
..

*** Send problem report to the developers?

After the problem report has been sent, please fill out the form in the
automatically opened web browser.

What would you like to do? Your options are:
   S: Send report (1.8 KiB)
   V: View report
   K: Keep report file for sending later or copying to somewhere else
   C: Cancel
Please choose (S/V/K/C):




Pasted below is an entire ubuntu-bug s

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RE: rebuilding apache with debugging symbols

2010-01-12 Thread Ethan Baldridge
apt-get source apache2-mpm-prefork should set you on your way.

Add -g to the CFLAGS in debian/rules, and then I think make -f debian/rules 
will be all you need. I'm neither an ubuntu nor debian developer, so anybody 
please correct me if I'm wrong. :)

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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:24 PM
To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: rebuilding apache with debugging symbols

I'd like to recreate the build process for the apache2-mpm-prefork package so I 
can create an identical copy of it with debugging symbols, so I can debug a 
module I'm trying to write.  I couldn't find any logs online of the build 
process, the flags you use, or how the package itself is created.  

Can someone point me to the build logs or instructions for configuring, 
building, and packagizing apache so I can take care of this myself?  I don't 
want to just build apache from scratch and then have to worry about conflicts, 
collisions, etc, arising from me not being familiar with the system.  I'd 
rather use the same methods you use for the package.  Plus this way I can 
attempt to build newer and older versions of apache2 to test with so when the 
package repo upgrades the default install version of apache2, I'll have already 
tested against it.

I'm new to ubuntu, so be gentle.

Thanks!

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RE: gmonstart / jvregisterclasses in tons of binaries with commands, malware?

2009-12-16 Thread Ethan Baldridge
Not sure what precisely those strings are from, but I can tell you right now 
what they ARE (along with the lists of commands) after looking at /bin/ps

That's the function table for the binary. The @ sign you're seeing is 
actually represented as ^@ (one character, not two) - it's a null character 
(invisible to the naked eye in ASCII if it wasn't represented somehow. ^@ is 
the common way to do it). In most programming languages, a null character is 
used to mark the end of a string. In this case, the end of a function name.

Having a readable representation of the function table is important for 
debugging (among other things). It means instead of having a backtrace that 
says Function 0x08c4 returned 3 you can see atoi returned 3.





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 From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-
 devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of
 whereislibertyandjust...@safe-mail.net
 Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:41 PM
 To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: gmonstart / jvregisterclasses in tons of binaries with
 commands,malware?
 
 In linux binaries, in any linux distro, I've discovered the same
 strings
 which I believe may be due to a virus or trojan.
 
 Yet, clamav, rkhunter, chkrootkit do not detect abnormalities.
 
 Whether I run 'strings' on the binary files or view with vim or gedit,
 here
 is what is always seen inside the binaries:
 
 
 __gmon_start__
 _Jv_RegisterClasses
 
 Followed by commands which differ within each binary.
 
 If, by some luck, I've downloaded a fresh Linux ISO where binaries do
 not
 include the above two strings followed by commands, after I run an
 update
 the updated binaries suddenly contain the above two strings and other,
 what
 I believe to be, rogue strings. I've avoided the possible infection
 with an
 OpenBSD install, yet all the Linux installations and burned ISOs
 contain
 binaries with the above two strings followed by commands.
 
 Search using find within your bin and sbin directories for those two
 strings
 and see how many positives you find. Now use a text editor like vi or
 gedit
 and search through the gibberish, locate these strings and isolate the
 commands, if any, which follow them. Searching for gmonstart, gmon,
 registerclasses, jv, etc. variations of works. If you find results in
 your
 binaries, please copy/paste the commands following the gmonstart and
 jvregisterclasses strings so I may compare them to mine.
 
 I've purchased Linux CDs from brick + mortar stores, downloaded ISOs
 from
 different physical locations and found some CDs contained these strings
 in the binaries and one or two rare ones did not, but when
 installed/updated
 on a network connection the binaries replaced in the update process
 would
 show these strings!! These strings are not alone by themselves in the
 binaries they follow with commands with a @ mark before each command.
 
 Google results are vague, some suggest shell backdoors, every Linux
 user
 I've asked to date calls me paranoid while at the same time this
 knowledge
 comes as a surprise to them, too, when they search their binaries and
 find
 the same strings. I'm amazed by how quickly some rush to judgement and
 call
 you a paranoid for being curious about the files on your system. The
 strings
 may/may not be common, but in comparing commands which follow these
 strings
 I've noticed some which seem down right malicious!
 
 Maybe they're right, I'm just paranoid, but what am I seeing and why
 are these strings so common across Linux distros binaries, esp. the
 Jv (java?) reference? Please, any help?
 
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RE: tree package to be included out-of-the-box

2009-11-20 Thread Ethan Baldridge
I'm with you on vim (and also changing the /etc/alternatives/vi alias on its 
install -- the number of times I've hit a cursor key while in insert mode only 
to shake my fist at the monitor...)

Oh well, hjkl is where it's at anyway, right? :)

I'd never heard of tree until just now - seems like it's basically a 
pretty-print ls -R. Neat, sure, but essential? I'd think the GIMP would be a 
higher priority for disc space (not trying to touch off a flamewar, just 
saying...)

Ethan

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 From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-
 devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Robitaille
 Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:05 PM
 To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: tree package to be included out-of-the-box
 
 On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Chris Jones chrisjo...@comcen.com.au
 wrote:
  Ok, this is really starting to bug me. Why is the tree package not
  installed by default in Ubuntu? Other distros such as Fedora have it
  installed by default.
 
  I know it's easy enough to install at only ~500kb, but it irks me as
  it's a command I use all the time and I think it is just something/a
  command that should be included without the user having to install
 it.
 
  Cheers.
 
 I think we all have our personal pet packages we would like to have
 installed by default, and all our answers would be a bit different
 from each other.  Mine are flip and vim (instead of the default
 vim-tiny...).
 
 There is just so much space available to whatever become the Ubuntu
 default, and every kb counts; and it's not like the extra few seconds
 to install them in the few cases during the year I setup a system
 totally from scratch will kill me.
 
 
 --
 Daniel Robitaille
 
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RE: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-11-07 Thread Ethan Baldridge
Follow-up to this: I just logged into the VPN for the first time after 
upgrading to Karmic at home and it kept my default route, didn't replace the 
nameserver entries, and still added a local route for the VPN over ppp0! 
Whatever work has gone into NetworkManager between 9.04 and 9.10 I heartily 
approve!

Thanks!


 -Original Message-
 From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-
 devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Ethan Baldridge
 Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:59 AM
 To: Shentino; Morten Kjeldgaard
 Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com; Derek Broughton
 Subject: RE: Ubuntu Domain Server
 
 I just edit resolv.conf anyway and fix it the next time it “breaks”
 (every time I log into my company VPN, even though I have the PPPoE
 client set to not apply DNS settings from the DHCP server).  For a
 personal computer, I can just keep editing; I have to fix the default
 route every time anyway. But it would be nice to know how to “fix” it –
 and the routing table – permanently.
 
  From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-
 devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Shentino
  Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:33 AM
  To: Morten Kjeldgaard
  Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com; Derek Broughton
  Subject: Re: Ubuntu Domain Server
 
  On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Morten Kjeldgaard
 m...@bioxray.au.dk wrote:
 
  On 20/10/2009, at 15.35, Derek Broughton wrote:
 
 
  I will never understand why a server GUI would improve anything?
 
  I will never understand why elitists hate GUIs.  A good UI should
  improve
  things by absolutely preventing misconfiguration.
 
  That's because the GUI often gets in the way of good sysadm practices
  and also automated configuration such as cfengine and the like.
 
  One example is the /etc/resolv.conf file, which used to be a simple 3
  line file that in karmic has been replaced with a complex and
  intransparent resolvconf system, that is part of the network
  configuation gui and clobbers /etc/resolv.conf at every boot.
 
  IIRC, resolvconf leaves a big fat #AUTOGENERATED, DO NOT EDIT comment
 line in the file, so at least any potential conf-file monkeys looking
 to poke around are clued in, and presumably a short operation can tell
 resolvconf to go away or at least disable itself.
 
  There's a huge difference maintaining a single-user system on a
 laptop
  and hundreds of workstations.
 
  -- Morten
 
 
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RE: upgrade from 9.04 - 9.10: the most broken Ubuntu / Debian upgradeI have ever experienced

2009-11-03 Thread Ethan Baldridge
Out of curiosity, what does do-release-upgrade do that editing your 
sources.list, sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade wouldn't do?

 -Original Message-
 From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-
 devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Joao Pinto
 Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:02 PM
 To: Davyd McColl
 Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: upgrade from 9.04 - 9.10: the most broken Ubuntu / Debian
 upgradeI have ever experienced
 
 On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Davyd McColl dav...@gmail.com wrote:
  Good day all
 
  I'll try keep it short, because this mail doesn't contain anything
  particularly constructive -- it's just pertinent here because of the
 sheer
  number of people who have posted that perhaps Karmic wasn't ready for
 the
  big time. Also, I don't know where else to put this up for general
 perusal
  where the people who count (Ubuntu devs) will actually see it. I
 could LJ
  it, but you'd have to be a sad puppy to be reading my LJ
  (http://fluffynuts.livejournal.com). So here it goes:
 
  In approximately 10 years of Debian/Ubuntu usage (I switched to
 Ubuntu in
  the Warty days), I have *never* had the displeasure of such a broken
 upgrade
  process as I've just had, moving from 9.04 to 9.10. I've experienced
 such
  brokenness from Fedora (but hey, that *is* the testing-ground for RH,
 so you
  take your chances to start with, imo). Here's a short list of some
 glaringly
  obvious problems that even the most incompetant QA should have picked
 up
  (which, by the way, are being experienced by not only myself with the
 heaps
  of packages I have installed from the Ubuntu repos, but also by a
 colleague
  at work who started with a fairly standard 9.04 install just the
 other
  day.Please bear in mind that I have *very little* installed from
 anywhere
  other than archive.ubuntu.com -- I think I have 2 ppa's for tor and
 rvm. So
  my machine, whilst bloated with GNOME, KDE and XFCE components, is
 using
  mostly off-the-shelf components):
 
  1) libc6 upgrade requires the restart of gdm. Which in turn requires
 the
  termination of the X11 server. Which, in turn, requires that the
 upgrade
  process proceeds in a never-ending loop as the actual installation of
 libc6
  doesn't complete properly. Not a problem for a vet with some
 experience -- a
  big problem for the average joe that Ubuntu is normally so well-
 suited
  for. Whilst I can switch to a VT and use apt, I don't have the
 confidence
  that the average user out there could, although they would have been
  presented with the same upgrade now? question by update-manager
  2) When I finally got the process started, there were several (read
 10+)
  rounds of the following:
    apt-get dist-upgrade
     [apt breaks because of package dependencies or other issues, such
 as the
  config script for a package failing]
    apt-get install -f
     [lather, rinse, repeat]
  again, not that great for Joe user. Not that great for me either. But
 at
  least I can attempt to fix it and remove conflicting and horribly
 broken
  packages. I have several bug reports on Launchpad. I got tired of
 posting
  them all when I got to about the 10th one. Generally, the issues were
 often
  of the format:
  upgrade of package [Y] requires installation of new package [Y-
 funkyname],
  but old [Y] wasn't removed first, so the installation of [Y-
 funkyname] fails
  because of a package file conflict. Indi comes to mind here.
  OR
  bad installation scripts which cannot be run more than once (say,
 when the
  package fails to install the first time). Wicd shines here, trying to
 add my
  user to the net-dev group repeatedly and failing because I'm
 already in
  that group from the first time it partially installed.
  3) The kicker: after spending a couple of hours on this, I managed to
 get my
  machine to a state where apt claimed that I had no more updates
 available.
  So I figured it was time for the inevitable reboot. Except... GRUB is
  broken. Can't boot. Showstopper. I've tried fixing with a 64-bit
 Debian DVD
  (sorry, I didn't have the 9.10 install CD down yet -- it was coming
 down for
  me to share with friends when all hell broke loose during my
 upgrade).
  When trying to fix from with a chrooted shell on the problematic
 system,
  grub-install consistently fails with an error that it has an error
 reading
  the stage1 file (which exists and I've seen it unpacked from a re-
 install of
  the package .deb using dpkg in a chrooted shell, so please, don't
 tell me
  that I personally have a problem with the file -- I would be
 surprised if
  this isn't happening a lot more (and may well be because of changes
 from the
  old GRUB to GRUB2 -- but again, a simple QA process *should* have
 caught
  this).
 
  To add insult to injury, for the very first time in my life, I'm
 using my
  dual-booted Windows install to provide a platform 

RE: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-31 Thread Ethan Baldridge
I just edit resolv.conf anyway and fix it the next time it “breaks” (every time 
I log into my company VPN, even though I have the PPPoE client set to not apply 
DNS settings from the DHCP server).  For a personal computer, I can just keep 
editing; I have to fix the default route every time anyway. But it would be 
nice to know how to “fix” it – and the routing table – permanently.

 From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com 
 [mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Shentino
 Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:33 AM
 To: Morten Kjeldgaard
 Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com; Derek Broughton
 Subject: Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

 On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk wrote:

 On 20/10/2009, at 15.35, Derek Broughton wrote:


 I will never understand why a server GUI would improve anything?

 I will never understand why elitists hate GUIs.  A good UI should
 improve
 things by absolutely preventing misconfiguration.

 That's because the GUI often gets in the way of good sysadm practices
 and also automated configuration such as cfengine and the like.

 One example is the /etc/resolv.conf file, which used to be a simple 3
 line file that in karmic has been replaced with a complex and
 intransparent resolvconf system, that is part of the network
 configuation gui and clobbers /etc/resolv.conf at every boot.

 IIRC, resolvconf leaves a big fat #AUTOGENERATED, DO NOT EDIT comment line 
 in the file, so at least any potential conf-file monkeys looking to poke 
 around are clued in, and presumably a short operation can tell resolvconf to 
 go away or at least disable itself. 

 There's a huge difference maintaining a single-user system on a laptop
 and hundreds of workstations.

 -- Morten


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RE: Proposal: reduce base font size from 10pt to 9pt for Karmic Koala release

2009-10-10 Thread Ethan Baldridge
Conn said:
- Fonts currently look over-sized on the default configuration (96dpi, 10pt, 
subpixel smoothing  slight hinting)

This is the problem I believe. Why is the default always 96dpi instead of the 
correct information from the EDID?

$ xdpyinfo | grep -e \(resolution\|dimensions\)
  dimensions:1680x1050 pixels (474x303 millimeters)
  resolution:90x88 dots per inch

If we're not using the proper resolution info, the font sizes won't be 
consistent between monitors. I know this isn't the way Windows does it, but 
that's because Windows' font handling has always been broken, and will probably 
always continue to be broken. But back to a world where computers do logical 
things at all times, points are (supposed to be) a measure of the physical size 
of a displayed typeface (1 pt = 1/72.27 inch [TeX point] or 1/72 inch 
[PostScript point]), and thus in electronic form are necessarily based on the 
physical resolution of the medium. If I have two monitors next to each other, 
and one is 640x480 while the other is 1600x1200, a 10 point capital-M rendered 
on each in the same typeface should take up an equal amount of arc space to an 
eyeball equidistant from each monitor regardless of the physical dimensions of 
the monitors themselves.

I'm pretty sure this used to happen correctly without having to tweak anything, 
but I'm a little long in the tooth and my memory for dates sucks - that may 
have been in the days of XFree86 when FreeType2 first came out.

Also, the default smoothing and hinting is supposed to be different based on 
whether you're connected to a CRT or an LCD - I'm pretty sure Ubuntu does do 
this. If you connect to a CRT you'll see grayscale smoothing, full hinting (or 
best contrast, I forget which). LCDs look better with subpixel smoothing, 
although I usually set the hinting to best contrast anyway though. :) But I 
can't test that changing hinting styles changes apparent font size (it is 
supposed to, but very minimally for most [i.e. written to spec] typefaces), as 
gnome-appearance-properties has been broken for me since very early in the 
Karmic dev cycle.

-Ethan
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RE: Default vfat file permissions - why executable?

2009-10-06 Thread Ethan Baldridge
Dwarf Fortress comes as a .exe as well, but again, it should be run with
the included shell script (./df).

Also, I think any C# apps have the .exe extension on the binaries by
default.

But .exe files run with Wine (separate from ELF binaries or CIL stuff
which have a .exe extension) shouldn't need to be executable anyway,
right? Or does Ubuntu use the kernel's misc binary loader option to
handle Wine stuff?


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[mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Hanson
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:54 PM
To: John Dong
Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Default vfat file permissions - why executable?

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:28 PM, John Dong jd...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Usecase described at

https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-mount/+bug/78505/co
mments/10

 As Colin said, it seems to be more of a cosmetic issue with Nautilus.

Thanks.  I understand now although I think that binfmt-support is the
wrong solution to the problem.  Using xdg-open and the filename
extension would be easier.  Its rather rare to find a ELF with an
extension of .exe.  The game Lost Labyrinth (laby.exe) is the only
one I know of but users will run it from a desktop menu, not by
browsing and clicking the executable in the .../bin directory.

I don't like the click anything to execute it aspects as it allows
the proliferation of unauthenticated applications (and the related
malware risks) to easily bypass the relative safety of those from
standard repositories in the package management system.  The Nautilus
dialog is only a minor annoyance.  It's the design of the Wine
integration that makes it too easy to create readme.txt binaries
that install malware.

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Re: Apt GPG key change?

2008-12-07 Thread Ethan Baldridge
Worked fine today, thanks.

On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 17:15 +0800, DULMANDAKH Sukhbaatar wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Ethan Baldridge
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Did Ubuntu's FTP manager change their GPG key in the past couple of
  days? When I ran apt-get upgrade this morning I got:
 
 run sudo apt-get update once more, and try again sudo apt-get upgrade
 
 
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Apt GPG key change?

2008-12-06 Thread Ethan Baldridge
Did Ubuntu's FTP manager change their GPG key in the past couple of
days? When I ran apt-get upgrade this morning I got:

The following packages will be upgraded:
  cups-driver-gutenprint gutenprint-doc iso-codes kdelibs-bin kdelibs5
kdelibs5-data  libffi-dev libffi5 libglu1-xorg-dev libgutenprint2
libjack0 libspectre1 liburi-perl  linux-restricted-modules-common
openjdk-6-jdk openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless  openjdk-6-jre-lib
ttf-liberation wpasupplicant x11-common xbase-clients xorg  xserver-xorg
xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-video-all
26 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
Need to get 63.7MB of archives.
After this operation, 307kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? 
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And of course I answered heck no! I looked on the wiki and didn't see
anything about it...

I'm running the Jaunty alpha, if that makes a difference, though I don't
think it should.

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Confusing namespace for git in Intrepid repository

2008-10-22 Thread Ethan Baldridge
Currently `apt-get install git` gives one a virtual package for gnuit
from universe, which is some sort of midnight commander-alike. This
seems rather odd considering that a) the program already has another
name and package (gnuit), and b) a far greater audience would associate
git with the source code management utility designed by Linus (which
is what I was actually trying to install).

Shouldn't the virtual package git instead pull in git-core, git-gui,
and perhaps git-cvs and git-svn?

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