RE: Why Ubuntu is not ready for prime time
Awesome :-) I didn't realise this was the case. I've got quite a few non-standard apps installed, so that's probably why I haven't noticed. Gnome Baker for example, if that were literal!. -Original Message- From: Paul Smith [mailto:p...@mad-scientist.us] Sent: 28 August 2009 19:07 To: McManus Paul - GD Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: Why Ubuntu is not ready for prime time On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 18:30 +0100, paul.mcma...@met.police.uk wrote: Quicken, Outlook, Powerpoint, they're all bizzare names. Doesn't mean that Ubuntu can't do one better ;-) I believe the menu system is better in Ubuntu than Windows, however all apps could do with having their function added to their name. As like "Firefox Web Browser". We know what Firefox is, but in my office (still working on Windows 2000!) I don't think I'm the majority. I'm not disagreeing with your statement, I just think that your wish is already largely a reality. I took a look through my menus (9.04) and as far as I can tell ALL the standard applications have their function shown, either by itself ("Terminal") or in addition to the name ("Rhythmbox Music Player"). There are some apps I've installed from multiverse, etc. that are not standard parts of Ubuntu where this pattern is not followed (e.g., "Emacs 22") but things you've explicitly installed yourself are less critical in this respect. If you find apps where this isn't the case I think filing a bug in Launchpad is perfectly reasonable. ** It is the policy of the MPS that: MPS personnel (or agents working on behalf of the MPS) must not use MPS systems to author, transmit or store documents such as electronic mail (e-mail) messages or attachments: * containing racist, homophobic, sexist, defamatory, offensive, illegal or otherwise inappropriate material; * containing material requiring a protective marking higher than RESTRICTED, (and not higher than NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED across the internet) without the use of approved encryption; * containing personal data for use other than in accordance with the notification(s) under the Data Protection Act, 1998 of the system(s) from which the data originates. * This Email message has been scanned for viruses and contents. ** -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
RE: Why Ubuntu is not ready for prime time
Quicken, Outlook, Powerpoint, they're all bizzare names. Doesn't mean that Ubuntu can't do one better ;-) I believe the menu system is better in Ubuntu than Windows, however all apps could do with having their function added to their name. As like "Firefox Web Browser". We know what Firefox is, but in my office (still working on Windows 2000!) I don't think I'm the majority. -Original Message- From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Paul Smith Sent: 27 August 2009 17:59 To: Vincent Arnoux Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Why Ubuntu is not ready for prime time On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 18:48 +0200, Vincent Arnoux wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 18:23, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> I guess Jonathan Taylor is joking or trolling here, one of the main > >> advantage of using Linux distributions for desktops is that every > >> application is automatically categorized where, on Windows, every > >> application is NOT categorized... > >> > >> Start->Programs->Adobe->Photoshop v.x->Photoshop > >> > > > > How is one supposed to know to look under "Adobe" for Photoshop? Why > > isn't it under "Graphics" or "Photo Editors" or some such menu? > > After the application is installed, a bubble notification guides you > to the newly installed program by highlighting the path in the start > menu. This part would be nice to see in our DE's. This enhancement would be nice, but I'm sure you'll agree it's in no way comparable to having sane menus in the first place. It's great the first time you install something but what about an application you use only once in a great while? The second time you need it the highlighting will be long gone, and yet you can't remember where in the heck that program went to! Also, Windows has it's own fair share of programs whose names are not very evocative. If it wasn't one of the most well-known programs in the world would you guess that "Quicken" was a program for handling your finances? Cheers! -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss ** It is the policy of the MPS that: MPS personnel (or agents working on behalf of the MPS) must not use MPS systems to author, transmit or store documents such as electronic mail (e-mail) messages or attachments: * containing racist, homophobic, sexist, defamatory, offensive, illegal or otherwise inappropriate material; * containing material requiring a protective marking higher than RESTRICTED, (and not higher than NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED across the internet) without the use of approved encryption; * containing personal data for use other than in accordance with the notification(s) under the Data Protection Act, 1998 of the system(s) from which the data originates. * This Email message has been scanned for viruses and contents. ** -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
RE: Ubuntu Advanced?
There is absolutely no way I would have figured that out in under a week. The Ubuntu Community is great, especially with questions such as this, but for the average user (with limited technical knowledge or understanding) a GUI for these sorts of things would be a better solution. That said, my family use Ubuntu with hardly any fuss, and have done for a couple of years. Maybe it's the fact they conincidently use well supported Dell laptops, but Ubuntu Just Works(tm) for them. -Original Message- From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Dave Walker Sent: 28 August 2009 18:19 To: Dane Mutters Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com; Jan-Michael Heller Subject: Re: Ubuntu Advanced? Dane Mutters wrote: > Just an example that I was arguing with yesterday: /etc/resolv.conf. > It's auto-generated by NetworkManager. I like NM; don't get me wrong, > but if you need to change the DNS (or other) settings from the command > prompt, it's really a pain. > > --Dane Hi Dane, Whilst i appreciate that is just an example, that particular issue can be overcome with, appending: "prepend domain-name-servers $SOME_DNS_SERVER,$DNS_SERVER_2;" to: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf Then you have two DNS servers,at the top of /etc/resolv.conf Kind Regards, Dave Walker -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss ** It is the policy of the MPS that: MPS personnel (or agents working on behalf of the MPS) must not use MPS systems to author, transmit or store documents such as electronic mail (e-mail) messages or attachments: * containing racist, homophobic, sexist, defamatory, offensive, illegal or otherwise inappropriate material; * containing material requiring a protective marking higher than RESTRICTED, (and not higher than NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED across the internet) without the use of approved encryption; * containing personal data for use other than in accordance with the notification(s) under the Data Protection Act, 1998 of the system(s) from which the data originates. * This Email message has been scanned for viruses and contents. ** -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss