Re: Latest Lucid kernel (2.6.32-20) chokes on my hardware
Bruno, What are your hardware specs and SSD model? Try passing " libata.force=noncq " as kernel boot param and see if it helps? Helps with my Intel DP5DP motherboard and Crucial M225 SSD (IndiLinux barefoot controller/firmware)... HTH Vishal -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Call for Testing: Nouveau
Hi, Please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1428752 looks like VT switching does not work and also for a few other people as is apparent in the feedback wiki page. I'm trying to report this by running "ubuntu-bug linux" but at the end of uploading the report it aborts saying "Cannot connect to crash database, please check your Internet connection". Any chance this gets fixed before Beta 1 and/or is there an existing bug I can join/subscribe? Ubuntu 10.04 is looking like it will be the best release ever, thanks! - Vishal -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Delta debs / zsync (etc) discussions gone quiet?
Hello, There was recently some mailing list activity about benchmarking tests for delta debs/zsync etc but things seem to have gone quiet recently. Is there a wiki/spec/blueprint or another mailing list where I can track progress? As an Ubuntu user from a place with slow and expensive broadband I'm keen to be able to play around (help test) anything that comes out, and I do hope there is something for the Karmic timeframe itself? Feature freeze being so close worries me a lot :-) - Vishal -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Reporting usability problems: please be more tolerant when you triage bugs!
+1, me too, etc... See the comments in bug 294523 at https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/294523 A few users have tried to report/push/discuss for this for a few releases already but it seems the bug is low priority even though its a usability pain and that too right at the start of the ubuntu experience - installation... I'm sure even though only a few are reporting it there are many users who silently suffer because they are simply not aware of the fact they can go to launchpad and/or the forums and be heard. I wish this bug would gain higher priority - maybe for the DX team? Looking forward to a fast and painless out-of-box ubuntu installation experience... Cheers, Visha -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
The old "installer getting stuck at 82%" issue :-)
Hello, I was wondering if bug/wishlist 294523 [1], about the installer (Ubuntu, Kubuntu possibly others) which "gets stuck at 82%" for long periods during installation thereby ruining the install experience, has been looked at by anyone for the Karmic release? I had tried to mark it as a papercut candidate but apparently it didnt make the cut (was that a pun?). This issue has been discussed on mailing lists and forums [2] for at least a few releases already. Could it not be such that the operations done at 82% be moved to post-install or at first login? In my case, it ruins what would be a pleasant 5 minute install experience into a dull/boring 20-30 minute wait and I don't think the proposed slideshow will help. As a workaround I usually unplug my network cable and it doesn't complain, just progressing apparently normally. If it works without a network cable (I think we can assume many users dont have Internet access) why not postpone those 82% steps to later? Regards, Vishal Rao [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/294523 [2] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195557 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Low latency kernel in Karmic to help with PulseAudio?
Hello, Whilst participating in the Karmic forums, I remembered a discussion about some distros like Fedora running a low-latency kernel which helped with PulseAudio. Is there going to be discussion during UDS amongst yourselves (devs) about enabling low-latency for Karmic as well? See this mailing list post by Lennart of PulseAudio/Fedora fame: https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2009-February/003150.html And, I wonder if enabling low-latency mode also improves responsiveness of the user desktop... Regards, Vishal -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: k3b for kde4 in kubuntu jaunty?
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Anthony Mercatante wrote: > I've just pushed a major SVN update that seems to be fixing quite a lot of > issues. > I've just performed several isos burning (both cds and dvds) and everything > seems to work as expected on my side. > > Feel free to report any test you've performed. > > Tonio Tested with k3b amd64 package 1.0.5+kde4svn942940-0ubuntu1 on Jaunty amd64 current pre-beta with Samsung DVD+/-RW DL drive SH-S203D model. 1. Write data files to CDRW: With default settings it waits at "searching for existing session". Chose "no multisession" then it appeared to complete writing but the disc shows up as blank. But this may be a general Jaunty issue on my machine and not a k3b problem specifically. 2. Write gparted ISO to CDRW: Burn worked with default settings and resulting disc booted fine on KVM/virt-manager. 3. Write data files to DVDRW: Erase again fails to work/detect that disc is not empty. After completing burning a few files, the disc shows empty in Jaunty and also in k3b! The label and files show fine when I insert into a machine running Windows 7 so it looks like a Jaunty issue again on my machine. 4. Write gparted ISO to DVDRW: gparted image writing completed but did not boot in KVM - read error 0x80. Re-wrote the image, this time the disc shows blank in Jaunty/k3b and Win7. Again re-wrote, this time able to manually mount the disc (automount did not happen) and it shows in Win7 machine, but boot in KVM is very slow and not normal - boots to grub minimal. Update: Looks like my drive is failing, it is able to read CD/CDRWs and DVDs but not DVDRWs, even ones which I'd written earlier and were working before. The drive is about a year old with very little writing done on it, so I hope it isn't caused by testing k3b! :-) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Call for Jaunty testers (PulseAudio stability-related)
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Daniel T Chen wrote: > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Vishal Rao wrote: > >> The install failed with "newer version already installed" because I >> earlier updated and got 2.6.28-11 from main. >> I doubt the hw_ptr fixes are in main, if not, will you build new >> packages with updated version? > > Updated. > > - -Dan Yes, the kernel (amd64) is an improvement, as I've posted in bug 330814, on my desktop with Intel motherboard and also on my HP tablet. Thanks, Vishal -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: k3b for kde4 in kubuntu jaunty?
(resending since it bounced because i wasnt subscribed to kubuntu-devel, apologies for the spam) On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Vishal Rao wrote: > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Luka Renko wrote: >> On Friday 20 March 2009 16:18:25 Vishal Rao wrote: >>> Any chance of k3b-for-kde4 getting into jaunty before the release as >>> part of kubuntu's move to eliminate kde3 deps? >>> Or is it no point waiting for it since it might not be done by April? >>> Or is it too late already with feature freeze past? >>> See http://blog.mandriva.com/2009/03/19/mandriva-helps-porting-k3b-in-qt4/ >> >> Kubuntu developers (Tonio in particular) are looking closely on KDE4 version >> of k3b. We would be more than happy to get rid of KDE3 completely for Jaunty. >> >> Tonio has prepared test packages for KDE4 k3b and they are available in his >> PPA: >> https://launchpad.net/~tonio/+archive/ppa >> >> He updates this packages regularly from KDE SVN, but we have received mixed >> results when testing (works for some people, but not all functionality - for >> example burning ISO images to DVD-RW was reported to not work for some >> people). >> We would appreciate any tester from the community that can spend some time on >> this. We are interested in testing various functionality of k3b. Please test >> and report both success as well as problems to kubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com >> or in #kubuntu-devel on IRC. >> >> Regards, >> Luka > > Thanks, I've just now installed and quickly tested. Let me know if there is > some > specific way to collect info/logs and where to send them? > > Sat Mar 21: > > Some testing notes: > > My drive is TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203D SB00 (Samsung DVD DL writer) > using k3b 1.60.0 from Tonio's PPA on Jaunty AMD64 current pre-beta. > > 1. On startup, k3b warns no support to create audio CD from > mp3 due to possible missing libmad, but I have libmad0 installed > version 0.15.1b-4 but I dont see a mp3 plugin in k3b. > > 2. When erasing a CDRW no progress information is available and > this fact is also displayed in the erase dialog - erase worked. > > 3. CD (CDRW) data project (files) burn seems to hang at 0%, even > the buffer shows empty, what logs/info can I provide here? > > 4. CDRW burn image (46 mb gparted iso) seemed to work, CPU usage > was showing 25% on my quad core meaning was it consuming full CPU core? > Or just the single thread working normally? Resulting CD booted fine > in KVM (virt-manager). > > 5. DVDRW (single layer) erase shows progress bar fine. > > 6. DVDRW burn data files - default settings - disc shows empty after > burn apparently succeeds - filesystem chosen is linux+windows and > multisession setting is auto. Disc shows empty in Dolphin and k3b too. > > 7. After step 6, did a quick format, now instead of showing blank disc > both dolphin and k3b show the volume label I provided but no files in the > disc. > (attaching debug output from burn dialog as k3b-dvdrw-burn-files.log) > > 8. DVDRW burn image (gparted iso) - selecting image shows md5 calculation > failed > in the dialog. Burn hangs at 100% - killed k3b. disc shows label only but is > empty. > > 9. Now default quick format doesnt work - says disc is not empty, need to > select force format. > > 10. DVDRW burn image (Win7beta DVD ISO) - software buffer is 100% but > device buffer is between 5% and 35% - progress bars seem to be updated > every 3 seconds. this time system monitor shows k3b as zombie. Again > hangs (no disc activity or UI updates) at 100% after showing "writing > lead out may take some time". > > 11. Just closing and restarting k3b it shows as zombie in system monitor. > > Regards, > Vishal > -- "Thou shalt not follow the null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie." -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: k3b for kde4 in kubuntu jaunty?
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Luka Renko wrote: > On Friday 20 March 2009 16:18:25 Vishal Rao wrote: >> Any chance of k3b-for-kde4 getting into jaunty before the release as >> part of kubuntu's move to eliminate kde3 deps? >> Or is it no point waiting for it since it might not be done by April? >> Or is it too late already with feature freeze past? >> See http://blog.mandriva.com/2009/03/19/mandriva-helps-porting-k3b-in-qt4/ > > Kubuntu developers (Tonio in particular) are looking closely on KDE4 version > of k3b. We would be more than happy to get rid of KDE3 completely for Jaunty. > > Tonio has prepared test packages for KDE4 k3b and they are available in his > PPA: > https://launchpad.net/~tonio/+archive/ppa > > He updates this packages regularly from KDE SVN, but we have received mixed > results when testing (works for some people, but not all functionality - for > example burning ISO images to DVD-RW was reported to not work for some > people). > We would appreciate any tester from the community that can spend some time on > this. We are interested in testing various functionality of k3b. Please test > and report both success as well as problems to kubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com > or in #kubuntu-devel on IRC. > > Regards, > Luka Thanks, I've just now installed and quickly tested. Let me know if there is some specific way to collect info/logs and where to send them? Sat Mar 21: Some testing notes: My drive is TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203D SB00 (Samsung DVD DL writer) using k3b 1.60.0 from Tonio's PPA on Jaunty AMD64 current pre-beta. 1. On startup, k3b warns no support to create audio CD from mp3 due to possible missing libmad, but I have libmad0 installed version 0.15.1b-4 but I dont see a mp3 plugin in k3b. 2. When erasing a CDRW no progress information is available and this fact is also displayed in the erase dialog - erase worked. 3. CD (CDRW) data project (files) burn seems to hang at 0%, even the buffer shows empty, what logs/info can I provide here? 4. CDRW burn image (46 mb gparted iso) seemed to work, CPU usage was showing 25% on my quad core meaning was it consuming full CPU core? Or just the single thread working normally? Resulting CD booted fine in KVM (virt-manager). 5. DVDRW (single layer) erase shows progress bar fine. 6. DVDRW burn data files - default settings - disc shows empty after burn apparently succeeds - filesystem chosen is linux+windows and multisession setting is auto. Disc shows empty in Dolphin and k3b too. 7. After step 6, did a quick format, now instead of showing blank disc both dolphin and k3b show the volume label I provided but no files in the disc. (attaching debug output from burn dialog as k3b-dvdrw-burn-files.log) 8. DVDRW burn image (gparted iso) - selecting image shows md5 calculation failed in the dialog. Burn hangs at 100% - killed k3b. disc shows label only but is empty. 9. Now default quick format doesnt work - says disc is not empty, need to select force format. 10. DVDRW burn image (Win7beta DVD ISO) - software buffer is 100% but device buffer is between 5% and 35% - progress bars seem to be updated every 3 seconds. this time system monitor shows k3b as zombie. Again hangs (no disc activity or UI updates) at 100% after showing "writing lead out may take some time". 11. Just closing and restarting k3b it shows as zombie in system monitor. Regards, Vishal Devices --- TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203D SB00 (/dev/sr0, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL) [DVD-ROM, DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump] [%7] K3b::IsoImager --- mkisofs print size result: 181 (370688 bytes) Pipe throughput: 370688 bytes read, 370688 bytes written. System --- K3b Version: 1.60.0 KDE Version: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1) QT Version: 4.5.0 Kernel: 2.6.28-11-generic Used versions --- mkisofs: 1.1.9 cdrecord: 1.1.9 cdrecord --- TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM Driveropts: 'burnfree' Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 5 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: 'TSSTcorp' Identification : 'CDDVDW SH-S203D ' Revision : 'SB00' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Current: 0x001A (DVD+RW) Profile: 0x0015 (DVD-R/DL sequential recording) Profile: 0x0016 (DVD-R/DL layer jump recording) Profile: 0x002B (DVD+R/DL) Profile: 0x001B (DVD+R) Profile: 0x001A (DVD+RW) (current) Profile: 0x0014 (DVD-RW sequential recording) Profile: 0x0013 (DVD-RW restricted overwrite) Profile: 0x0012 (DVD-RAM) Profile: 0x0011 (DVD-R sequentia
Re: Call for Jaunty testers (PulseAudio stability-related)
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Daniel Chen wrote: > Start by installing the kernel for your given architecture. You can The install failed with "newer version already installed" because I earlier updated and got 2.6.28-11 from main. I doubt the hw_ptr fixes are in main, if not, will you build new packages with updated version? In any case, with the 2.6.28-11 from main, I still see problems of crackling and occasionally no sound being played back in VLC. There are also logs such as: Mar 21 11:53:32 blackbird kernel: [ 3827.349760] vlc[5423]: segfault at 7f6af448b610 ip 7f6af448b612 sp 7f6af50c8108 error 7 in libpulse.so.0.7.1[7f6af4462000+5d000] Let me know if I already have your patches or I still need to install your kernel package - I am running amd64. Also if there is any other info needed like alsa-info.sh output? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
k3b for kde4 in kubuntu jaunty?
Any chance of k3b-for-kde4 getting into jaunty before the release as part of kubuntu's move to eliminate kde3 deps? Or is it no point waiting for it since it might not be done by April? Or is it too late already with feature freeze past? See http://blog.mandriva.com/2009/03/19/mandriva-helps-porting-k3b-in-qt4/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: FTBFS for xf86-input-evtouch in Jaunty
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > Am Mittwoch, den 14.01.2009, 20:42 +0530 schrieb Vishal Rao: >> Thanks a lot for fixing the package! >> >> The package itself worked but I've filed another bug 317127 about the >> calibrate tool not detecting mouse position. > right, more important was to have the package in at all, toffee and > flowers need to go to Thomas Jaeger who did an awesome job to fix the > build issues :) > jaunty is still in open development, so we should be able to shake out > the remaining bugs until feature freeze ... Hi, Any chance of this being addressed for Jaunty? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-evtouch/+bug/317127 Or do I need to try something else (evdev?) to be able to calibrate and use the "eGalax" touchscreen on an HP Pavilion tx1302au tablet PC? Regards, Vishal -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth
There is this bug but it is demoted to wishlist status at the moment... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/294523 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: FTBFS for xf86-input-evtouch in Jaunty
Thanks a lot for fixing the package! The package itself worked but I've filed another bug 317127 about the calibrate tool not detecting mouse position. Regards, Vishal Rao -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
FTBFS for xf86-input-evtouch in Jaunty
Hello, I'd filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/312098 a while back about this build failure. So far there's just an automated comment to post output of lspci and Xorg.0.log etc but I'm not sure it's relevant and if a developer/packager might take a look at this. This is touchscreen support for (at least) my HP tx1302au tablet PC and includes a calibration tool in System->Preferences which works very well in Intrepid. I hope it will be available for Jaunty again soon. Regards, Vishal Rao -- "Thou shalt not follow the null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie." -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: You lost a new Ubuntu user
Here is a bug I found : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/294523 I'm not sure if it's appropriate to post "me too" comments asking for it to be a wishlist to have the installer prompt to go online... -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: You lost a new Ubuntu user
There is a related (the 82% thing) thread on the forums at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580129 . This is being stuck at 82% because the mirrors are slow probably due to high traffic... I agree that the desktop ISO installer should not attempt to automatically connect and download updates without asking and prompting with a warning that these are for security updates. I have a slow Internet connection and usually disconnect the LAN cable so that the installer just moves on... But I would like to point out to Peter the "community" that is Ubuntu. You should participate by filing bugs/wishlists and discussing on mailing lists and forums so that the distribution can be improved. Come to think of it, if there isnt a bug/wishlist already filed to have the installer ask/prompt before going online, then I should file one myself :-) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Jaunty UDS schedule?
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Vishal Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe it's http://icecast.ubuntu.com/ as is mentioned in the > forums at ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com erm http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1005536 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Jaunty UDS schedule?
I believe it's http://icecast.ubuntu.com/ as is mentioned in the forums at ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: OpenOffice 3 and Firefox 3.1 in Intrepid?
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (cant tell anything about ooo) > > I didnt know that FF 3.1 by default was actually perceived as an > option by anyone until this mail reached my inbox. > > FF 3.1 won't be final in time for intrepid (not even close), and in > that line, this is no option for us to do. There as discussion to > provide a preview package for it, just like we did in gutsy for > xulrunner 1.9 and ffox 3.1, but I wont hold my breath for that. Right, I was way off with FF 3.1, i realise now its "nowhere near" 3.1 release status for Intrepid. What about other packages like Eclipse (which currently shows at 3.2) and WINE etc? Is there some place I can check what package versions are targetted for Intrepid release? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
OpenOffice 3 and Firefox 3.1 in Intrepid?
What is the latest status of the possibility of including OOo 3 and FF 3.1 by default in Intrepid? Without these 2 Intrepid will be a "boring" release IMO and no incentive for me to switch from Hardy. The devs took an "intrepid" decision to move to kernel .27 which I was hoping for, for smoother wireless on my HP tablet with Broadcom chipset and it is working well for me. But there is this new wl restricted driver in Hardy proposed which is also working well for me, so Intrepid really doesn't seem to offer a compelling reason to update... If anyone cares or is counting votes, +1 from me for inclusion of OOo 3 and FF 3.1 in Intrepid. Here's hoping this is really an "intrepid" release (like Gutsy was with compiz) to move things forward quicker :-) PS: I was running Hardy amd64 on my tablet, now Intrepid amd64 Alpha 4 with latest updates, mainly to test wireless. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
