Re: Go-OO.org?

2008-12-31 Thread Andrew Sayers
Hi Chris,

Thanks for this - it's good to have some definitive information :)

Do you know why Sun asked for their branding on a product with a
different feature set to their own?  It seems to me like this would
cause confusion (as evidenced by this thread), and would give some
measure of support to patches that Sun don't want in their tree.

- Andrew

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Re: Go-OO.org?

2008-12-31 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/12/31 Andrew Sayers andrew-ubuntu-de...@pileofstuff.org:
 Hi Chris,

 Thanks for this - it's good to have some definitive information :)

 Do you know why Sun asked for their branding on a product with a
 different feature set to their own?  It seems to me like this would
 cause confusion (as evidenced by this thread), and would give some
 measure of support to patches that Sun don't want in their tree.

- Andrew


This is not official, but from what I gather Sun (unlike Mozilla)
wants to be associated with improved versions of their product. Sun
cannot emply the patches themselves as that would compromise their
Star Office suit (not GPL) however having a strong OOo is beneficial
to Sun.

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Re: Go-OO.org?

2008-12-30 Thread Chris Cheney
I maintain OOo for Ubuntu.

The OpenOffice.org in Ubuntu is the go-oo.org version.

go-oo takes the original sun tarballs then patches it heavily with
somewhere around 500 patches. Pretty much all Linux distributions use
the go-oo.org build system and patches, except for Fedora, which just
takes a few of the patches and does the build differently. Of course we
have a few Ubuntu specific patches as well which are actually located in
the go-oo (ooo-build) repository at svn.gnome.org. We add things like
the Human icon theme and launchpad integration. And we also use a
different splash screen for the Ubuntu version which has the Sun logo on
it by Sun's request.

Chris


On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 16:48 -0500, John Moser wrote:
 I was considering filing a bug for package request or creating a spec
 for Go-Ooo.org for inclusion in Ubuntu, or possibly as a replacement
 for OpenOffice.org vanilla.  Start-up time is faster and feature set
 is expanded.
 
 There seems to be some contention between the world in general and Sun
 over OOo; people have forked or threatened to fork the project several
 times, and Go-OOo seems to be the most active as far as I can tell.
 I'm not sure where this will lead in the future-- possibly to a
 stagnating OOo from Sun and then to a completely different office
 suite, or possibly to a new fork, or possibly to Go-OOo, or possibly
 to some improvement in community view and/or management of Sun's OOo--
 but I think the current political atmosphere and the availability of a
 more featureful fork warrants some investigation.
 
 Has anyone else tried this thing?  I'm curious to know any opinions
 (political and technical, but please if you must pick one than go more
 technical than political) on the software, as well as any better or
 more active forks out there, or other viable alternatives entirely.
 


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