Re: Karmic Alpha 6/Beta
2009/10/2 David Curtis dcur...@uniserve.com: If it is true that there are packages/sets of packages that will not get installed through 'apt-get dist-upgrade' during the development cycle GRUB 2 is a special case. It is only (automatically) installed on a clean install, and not on upgrades, given the risk of this operation. -- Siegfried-Angel Gevatter Pujals (RainCT) Free Software Developer 363DEAE3 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Karmic Alpha 6/Beta
On 10/02/2009 07:51 AM, Siegfried-A. Gevatter wrote: 2009/10/2 David Curtis dcur...@uniserve.com: If it is true that there are packages/sets of packages that will not get installed through 'apt-get dist-upgrade' during the development cycle GRUB 2 is a special case. It is only (automatically) installed on a clean install, and not on upgrades, given the risk of this operation. On my fully updated Alpha 6, I'm showing: $ apt-cache policy grub-common grub-common: Installed: 1.97~beta3-1ubuntu6 Candidate: 1.97~beta3-1ubuntu6 Version table: *** 1.97~beta3-1ubuntu6 0 Which, according to this, seems to be the latest? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2 And of course I no longer have menu.lst, but /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/default/grub etc., as well. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Karmic Alpha 6/Beta
On 10/02/2009 09:50 AM, NoOp wrote: On 10/02/2009 07:51 AM, Siegfried-A. Gevatter wrote: 2009/10/2 David Curtis dcur...@uniserve.com: If it is true that there are packages/sets of packages that will not get installed through 'apt-get dist-upgrade' during the development cycle GRUB 2 is a special case. It is only (automatically) installed on a clean install, and not on upgrades, given the risk of this operation. On my fully updated Alpha 6, I'm showing: $ apt-cache policy grub-common grub-common: Installed: 1.97~beta3-1ubuntu6 Candidate: 1.97~beta3-1ubuntu6 Version table: *** 1.97~beta3-1ubuntu6 0 Which, according to this, seems to be the latest? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2 And of course I no longer have menu.lst, but /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/default/grub etc., as well. Ah... nevermind. I understand the upgrade issue :-) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Grub2Testing Thanks folks. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Karmic Alpha 6/Beta
Siegfried-A. Gevatter wrote: GRUB 2 is a special case. It is only (automatically) installed on a clean install, and not on upgrades, given the risk of this operation. Speaking of Grub 2, does anyone know if the grub2 automatic boot-through to default bug has been fixed? I posted it on launchpad (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/428570) but apparently no one has had a chance to look at it. Although not a big deal for desktop installs, this is a serious PITA for server environments, particularly for collocated or dedicated server pools where the admin doesn't have access to a console. If you're using 9.10, server, I suggest you use the work around described in the bug report. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Karmic Alpha 6/Beta
Sorry if this is the wrong list to ask this question. If so, can someone please point me to the appropriate list? My question: Can anyone here please advise if karmic Beta is simply a fully updated Alpa 6? Answering yes will avoid added server/mirror downloads from users/testers that already have Alpa 6 (fully updated) I can post that information on the Ubuntu users list accordingly. Answering no I'll ask someone to explain why and/or provide links to information that advises the differences. So please asssist with details if you can. Thanks, NoOp (wandering off course from the Ubuntu users list) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Karmic Alpha 6/Beta
If you've updated ANY of the alphas, you'll have the beta installed. The only thing I can think of that won't get updated is GRUB, depending on what updates they've done there. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:44 PM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Sorry if this is the wrong list to ask this question. If so, can someone please point me to the appropriate list? My question: Can anyone here please advise if karmic Beta is simply a fully updated Alpa 6? Answering yes will avoid added server/mirror downloads from users/testers that already have Alpa 6 (fully updated) I can post that information on the Ubuntu users list accordingly. Answering no I'll ask someone to explain why and/or provide links to information that advises the differences. So please asssist with details if you can. Thanks, NoOp (wandering off course from the Ubuntu users list) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Luke L. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Karmic Alpha 6/Beta
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 22:35:23 -0500 Luke L lukehasnon...@gmail.com wrote: If you've updated ANY of the alphas, you'll have the beta installed. The only thing I can think of that won't get updated is GRUB, depending on what updates they've done there. snipity If it is true that there are packages/sets of packages that will not get installed through 'apt-get dist-upgrade' during the development cycle, is there a communication method for dev teams to let testers know if a reinstall or invocation of update-manager is needed to move from alphaX to alphaX/beta to follow the preferred K/X/Ubuntu package set? (Knowing full well that there are daily updates during the devel cycle.) Dave -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss