Re: Libre Office Install/Remove
On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:48:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>If you read the release notes for a major release upgrade and assumed >>nothing regarding this issue was mentioned, the it's the fault of > then >>either the package manager this should read "packager", but I might be mistaken. The packager might not need to provide such info by the package's release notes. >>and upstream. > or Anyway, reading the news and release notes from upstream is important, if you upgrade _not_ from one dot to another dot release, _but from_ one major release to another major release. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Libre Office Install/Remove
On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:43:06 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:53:26 -0700, paulwheeler wrote: >>I installed this version of libreoffice: >>1:4.4.3~rc2-0ubuntu1~trusty1 > >And what version was installed before this version? > >Common practise should be, but not always is, that within a major >release backwards compatibility is granted and even the work-flow >shouldn't change too much and the config should still work. So at >least, if the major release does increase, read release notes, either >of the package and especially from upstream. Most of the times, but not >always, the major release upgraded software transforms old data and >configs to new data and configs. The pro, you don't have to do it on >your own, the con, you might not be able to downgrade the software and >use the transformed data and config anymore. > >IOW, regarding Colin's reply ... > >On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:14:25 +0100, Colin Law wrote: >>I not that you are not even running Ubuntu. Why are you not asking >>this on a Mint list? > >I disagree a little bit, you should send a request to upstream adn to and >the packager (Ubuntu packager or Mint packager), assumed you didn't >miss to read release notes of the package and from upstream, or you >only upgraded from one dot release to another. If you read the release >notes for a major release upgrade and assumed nothing regarding this >issue was mentioned, the it's the fault of either the package manager then >and upstream. If this issue was mentioned, by release notes for a >major or was not >release upgrade, then complain. If this issue happened from one dot >release to another, then complain, too. If not, then it's your fault ;). My apologies for the typos. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Libre Office Install/Remove
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:53:26 -0700, paulwheeler wrote: >I installed this version of libreoffice: 1:4.4.3~rc2-0ubuntu1~trusty1 And what version was installed before this version? Common practise should be, but not always is, that within a major release backwards compatibility is granted and even the work-flow shouldn't change too much and the config should still work. So at least, if the major release does increase, read release notes, either of the package and especially from upstream. Most of the times, but not always, the major release upgraded software transforms old data and configs to new data and configs. The pro, you don't have to do it on your own, the con, you might not be able to downgrade the software and use the transformed data and config anymore. IOW, regarding Colin's reply ... On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:14:25 +0100, Colin Law wrote: >I not that you are not even running Ubuntu. Why are you not asking >this on a Mint list? I disagree a little bit, you should send a request to upstream adn to the packager (Ubuntu packager or Mint packager), assumed you didn't miss to read release notes of the package and from upstream, or you only upgraded from one dot release to another. If you read the release notes for a major release upgrade and assumed nothing regarding this issue was mentioned, the it's the fault of either the package manager and upstream. If this issue was mentioned, by release notes for a major release upgrade, then complain. If this issue happened from one dot release to another, then complain, too. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Libre Office Install/Remove
On 16 July 2016 at 19:53, paulwheeler wrote: > > However, the joy was short-lived, because I then discovered the libreoffice > configuration file was still in the '.config' directory! > > .config/libreoffice/4/user > > > Why? How? For what reason? Because that file was not created by the installer, it was created at run time by the app. Synaptic can only remove files created at install time. Perhaps you would a complete remove to also remove all the other files created by libreoffice, such as your documents themselves. > > I installed this version of libreoffice: 1:4.4.3~rc2-0ubuntu1~trusty1 > > I am running this version of Synaptic: 0.81.2 > > My System: Linux Mint 17.2 Cinnamon 64-bit, Cinnamon version 2.6.13, Linux > Kernel 3.16.0-38-generic, AMD Phenom II x4 810 Processor x 4 with 8GiB memory I not that you are not even running Ubuntu. Why are you not asking this on a Mint list? Colin -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Libre Office Install/Remove
The 'Synaptic Package Manager' program cannot remove ALL of LibreOffice, even when asked to do so! I told synaptic to do a COMPLETE REMOVAL OF LIBRE OFFICE. What I got was the LibreOffice office productivity suite (metapackage) went unchecked, but the impress, calc, draw, math, base-core, libreoffice-help-en-us, writer, core, common, and libreoffice-java-common options were still installed? How is this possible??? What part of 'COMPLETE REMOVAL' did synaptic not understand??? I then went and clicked every remaining 'orphan' and told synaptic to remove completely. Got a blizzard of warnings about 'held' packages, 'broken' packages, and other crap. I just told the program to do a COMPLETE REMOVAL. Why do I care about your 'held' or 'broken' packages I Tried again, and voila! Now the prior messages solved themselves and everything I asked to be removed is unmarked. However, the joy was short-lived, because I then discovered the libreoffice configuration file was still in the '.config' directory! .config/libreoffice/4/user Why? How? For what reason? I installed this version of libreoffice: 1:4.4.3~rc2-0ubuntu1~trusty1 I am running this version of Synaptic: 0.81.2 My System: Linux Mint 17.2 Cinnamon 64-bit, Cinnamon version 2.6.13, Linux Kernel 3.16.0-38-generic, AMD Phenom II x4 810 Processor x 4 with 8GiB memory -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
