Re: Main frozen for Alpha 6

[Steve Langasek]

Hi Paulo,

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:00:07PM +, Paulo Silva wrote:
> i saw from slashdot twitter that files on ext4 are being missed? i
> confess i were expecting this happening, since ext4 is still too
> recent -  maybe would be a good idea to release ext4 only on Karmic
> Koala? Defaultly, i'm not feeling too courageous, as user, on try ext4
> that soon...

You appear to be referring to a Slashdot story covering the recent reports
of empty files when powering off systems uncleanly.

As the Slashdot article acknowledges, and as discussed in
,
this is not a bug in ext4 at all, but rather a bug in the assumptions of
certain desktop environments which expect behavior from the filesystem that
is not (and never has been) guaranteed by POSIX.

Since ext4 is not being offered as the default in jaunty, and will therefore
only be used by users who go out of their way to select a different
filesystem, I don't think these bugs in other pieces of software are a
reason to exclude ext4 from the jaunty release.  Furthermore, as Ted notes
in the bug log, the same assumptions are also a problem on xfs, which has
been an install option for years.

So this is a sound reason for users to not use ext4 for their Ubuntu 9.04
installs if system reliability is a problem for them (as it is for most of
us), but not a reason for pulling ext4 out of the release.

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Re: Main frozen for Alpha 6

[Paulo Silva]

i saw from slashdot twitter that files on ext4 are being missed? i
confess i were expecting this happening, since ext4 is still too
recent -  maybe would be a good idea to release ext4 only on Karmic
Koala? Defaultly, i'm not feeling too courageous, as user, on try ext4
that soon...

On 3/10/09, Steve Langasek  wrote:
> Dear developers,
>
> Jaunty Alpha 6 is scheduled for this Thursday, Mar 12, so the milestone
> freeze is now in effect.  Please take care that any packages you upload to
> main between now and the Alpha 6 release will help us in the goal of a high
> quality and timely alpha, and hold any disruptive or unnecessary uploads
> until after the alpha is out.  Again, this means the primary focus should be
> on resolving these bugs:
>
>   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+bugs?field.milestone=2214
>
> The number of bugs targeted to this milestone as blockers is small, but
> there's plenty of other work to be done in getting the archive in a
> consistent state so that we don't have uninstallable packages for the
> alpha-6 milestone:
>
>   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive#Consistency
>
> Remember that this is a "soft" freeze, so you are each responsible for
> making sure your uploads are appropriate - Launchpad will not be your safety
> net.[1]
>
> Packages that are not seeded on the CDs (i.e., most packages in universe,
> with the exception of UbuntuStudio, Xubuntu, and Mythbuntu packages) may be
> uploaded as usual.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Steve Langasek
> On behalf of the Ubuntu release team
>
> [1]
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-January/000519.html
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