Re: Print Dialog / Improving Print to file option

2012-08-20 Thread Lanoxx

  
  
Hi Timothy,

thank you for your answer. I did not know of these two bugs, but
they are both very interesting. I have opened a new bug in the mean
time, that is very similar to 542298, mine is 682129. And also
written a few patches already.

For your patch I would like to know which commit id it got in the
git master. Anyway I have commented to both bugs and attached
references to some other bugs that you might find interesting. Would
you be interessted to help with patches for bug #668529?

Best Regards
Sebastian

On 20/08/12 02:38, Timothy Arceri
  wrote:


  
I would like to know if the Print dialog that is used
  in Ubuntu, is 
  provided by a Gnome package or whether it is added by
  Ubuntu. 



This is part of GTK. You are looking in the right spot for
  the code, most of the filename generation is done in http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/modules/printbackends/file/gtkprintbackendfile.c


You can see my patch in
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657322 as an
  example.


Also it looks like there is already a bug with the same
  sort of idea as you see:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=542298



Tim Arceri



  
 
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Hi,

I would like to know if the Print dialog that is used in
Ubuntu, is 
provided by a Gnome package or whether it is added by
Ubuntu. In 
particular, there is a default printer option named Print to
File in 
Ubuntu, and when it is chosen, then one can print to PDF,
Postscript or 
SVG (at least in Inkscape). The problem with this dialog
makes saving 
the file unnecessary complicated, because on has to first
select the 
folder which normally requires at least 4 clicks:

1. click on the dropdown
2. click "other..."
3. Choose the folder (might require more clicks)
4. click open

Then the filename says output.pdf which any sane person will
probably 
want to change. So I have to type the file name and then
also add .pdf 
again and finally I can click "Print".

There are another two caveats here, first if I forget to add
".pdf" to 
the filename, then the file will be saved without the ".pdf"
extension. 
There is no logic to add it automatically. And s

Re: Print Dialog / Improving Print to file option

2012-08-19 Thread Timothy Arceri
I would like to know if the Print dialog that is used in Ubuntu, is 
provided by a Gnome package or whether it is added by Ubuntu. 


This is part of GTK. You are looking in the right spot for the code, most of 
the filename generation is done in 
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/modules/printbackends/file/gtkprintbackendfile.c

You can see my patch in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657322 as an 
example.

Also it looks like there is already a bug with the same sort of idea as you see:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=542298


Tim Arceri



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Hi,

I would like to know if the Print dialog that is used in Ubuntu, is 
provided by a Gnome package or whether it is added by Ubuntu. In 
particular, there is a default printer option named Print to File in 
Ubuntu, and when it is chosen, then one can print to PDF, Postscript or 
SVG (at least in Inkscape). The problem with this dialog makes saving 
the file unnecessary complicated, because on has to first select the 
folder which normally requires at least 4 clicks:

1. click on the dropdown
2. click other...
3. Choose the folder (might require more clicks)
4. click open

Then the filename says output.pdf which any sane person will probably 
want to change. So I have to type the file name and then also add .pdf 
again and finally I can click Print.

There are another two caveats here, first if I forget to add .pdf to 
the filename, then the file will be saved without the .pdf extension. 
There is no logic to add it automatically. And second if I had printed 
the document to a file before and now I want to save it again, then I 
have to remember the file name and type it in again (also having to 
select the folder again). If I make a typo, then I end up with two files 
instead of overwriting the first one.

IMHO, it would me much easier, if there was only one long input field 
and a button Browse next to it, which when clicked just opens a file 
selection dialog, where one can enter the file name AND folder name 
together, additionally this dialog should remember the last name that 
was used to print, and also automatically supply the extension (e.g 
.pdf, or .ps) based on the type that was selected.

So my question is, if this comes from Gnome or from Ubuntu so I can 
create a bug in the right bug tracker for this, and maybe someone could 
also point me to the code for the Print to File Options. Maybe I could 
even fix this myself.

Kind Regards
Lanoxx





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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 22:38:15 +0200
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To: Javier Jard?n jjar...@gnome.org
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On 15/08/12 20:27, Javier Jard?n wrote:
 On 15 August 2012 23:08, Lanoxx lan...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hi,
 Hello,

 Then the filename says output.pdf which any sane person will probably want
 to change. So I have to type the file name and then also add .pdf again and
 finally I can click Print.
 FYI, There is a GnomeGoal proposed related to this [1]

 [1] https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/PrintToFile
Thats a great goal, and should definitely be implemented. But still it 
does not solve the actual problem which I described. I also looked here:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/modules/printbackends/file/gtkprintbackendfile.c
but I can't find any

Print Dialog / Improving Print to file option

2012-08-15 Thread Lanoxx

Hi,

I would like to know if the Print dialog that is used in Ubuntu, is 
provided by a Gnome package or whether it is added by Ubuntu. In 
particular, there is a default printer option named Print to File in 
Ubuntu, and when it is chosen, then one can print to PDF, Postscript or 
SVG (at least in Inkscape). The problem with this dialog makes saving 
the file unnecessary complicated, because on has to first select the 
folder which normally requires at least 4 clicks:


1. click on the dropdown
2. click other...
3. Choose the folder (might require more clicks)
4. click open

Then the filename says output.pdf which any sane person will probably 
want to change. So I have to type the file name and then also add .pdf 
again and finally I can click Print.


There are another two caveats here, first if I forget to add .pdf to 
the filename, then the file will be saved without the .pdf extension. 
There is no logic to add it automatically. And second if I had printed 
the document to a file before and now I want to save it again, then I 
have to remember the file name and type it in again (also having to 
select the folder again). If I make a typo, then I end up with two files 
instead of overwriting the first one.


IMHO, it would me much easier, if there was only one long input field 
and a button Browse next to it, which when clicked just opens a file 
selection dialog, where one can enter the file name AND folder name 
together, additionally this dialog should remember the last name that 
was used to print, and also automatically supply the extension (e.g 
.pdf, or .ps) based on the type that was selected.


So my question is, if this comes from Gnome or from Ubuntu so I can 
create a bug in the right bug tracker for this, and maybe someone could 
also point me to the code for the Print to File Options. Maybe I could 
even fix this myself.


Kind Regards
Lanoxx



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Re: Print Dialog / Improving Print to file option

2012-08-15 Thread Lanoxx


On 15/08/12 20:27, Javier Jardón wrote:

On 15 August 2012 23:08, Lanoxx lan...@gmx.net wrote:

Hi,

Hello,


Then the filename says output.pdf which any sane person will probably want
to change. So I have to type the file name and then also add .pdf again and
finally I can click Print.

FYI, There is a GnomeGoal proposed related to this [1]

[1] https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/PrintToFile
Thats a great goal, and should definitely be implemented. But still it 
does not solve the actual problem which I described. I also looked here:

http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/modules/printbackends/file/gtkprintbackendfile.c
but I can't find any GtkWidget being created, so I guess thats not it.





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Re: Print Dialog / Improving Print to file option

2012-08-15 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:38:15PM +0200, Lanoxx wrote:
 On 15/08/12 20:27, Javier Jardón wrote:
 On 15 August 2012 23:08, Lanoxx lan...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hi,
 Hello,
 
 Then the filename says output.pdf which any sane person will probably want
 to change. So I have to type the file name and then also add .pdf again and
 finally I can click Print.
 FYI, There is a GnomeGoal proposed related to this [1]
 
 [1] https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/PrintToFile
 Thats a great goal, and should definitely be implemented. But still
 it does not solve the actual problem which I described. I also
 looked here:
 http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/modules/printbackends/file/gtkprintbackendfile.c
 but I can't find any GtkWidget being created, so I guess thats not it.

I agree with the idea of standardizing on a file browser window
for selecting the file and adding in the defaults in an editable way.
I very often save things to file with names like

file1.pdf
file2.pdf
file2a.pdf
file3.pdf

and so forth, so memory is useful. It would also be nice if I there
was some memory such that if you printed to file the last time, it
pops up the next time just as you left it. I do not know about
others but 'least surprise' for me is that things are always left
as I last used them.

It would also be useful to have a 'recently used' capability that
just puts you to the file name and printer of one of the last N 
files you have printed. Useful if you forgot where you put something;
or in a large facility, which of multiple printers in several
buildings did you send that thing you printed before going out to
lunch; also useful if you want to go back and do a print to file
of the something under a similar name. Hell, you might even try
remembering the source URL as well as the destination printer or
file name.


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