Re: 32-bit vs 64-bit (was: InetBoot for Fedora/Ubuntu/KNOPPIX/VMKnoppix is released.)

2008-07-02 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 15:28 +0100, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote:

 One more question: i just found out that there are no 64 bits
  packages... will there ever be? with a system with 4GiBs of RAM like
  mine, I can only see 3GiBs.

For Intel/AMD systems, there are two options:
  32-bit, using the I386 ISO/CD/...
  64-bit, using the AMD64 ISO/CD/...

Despite having AMD in the name, the 64-bit packages will install on
64-bit Intel processors, as well as the AMD Athlon family.

Bear in mind that there are packages which are only available in 32-bit
versions.  In particular, there are a number of web browser plugins
which are only available for 32-bit Linux.  For this reason, many linux
users are installing the 32-bit distribution on desktop systems, even
though those systems would be quite capable of running a 64-bit linux
distribution.

I am in that category at home, because I access various sites that offer
java/flash/adobe content, and I know that these (particularly Java) are
not (or not fully) supported on a 64-bit platform.  I am not affected by
the memory restraints, because the motherboard on my PC supports a
maximum of 3 GB.


At work, I have chosen 64-bit Ubuntu for my desktop, because my new PC
is a 4-core, 64-bit CPU with 4GB RAM.  So far, I have not found anything
that justifies switching back to 32-bit, although I do have to remember
the restriction for one environment - our VPN servers are managed via a
web interface.  These systems offer 'manage from laptop' or 'manage
server', and the latter uses a java interface that won't work because
there is not a java plugin for browsers on 64-bit Linux. I am able to
use the 'manage from laptop' option in that situation, as that doesn't
use Java.


Tim


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Re: 32-bit vs 64-bit (was: InetBoot for Fedora/Ubuntu/KNOPPIX/VMKnoppix is released.)

2008-07-02 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
Olá Tim e a todos.

On Wednesday 02 July 2008 10:34:34 Tim wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 15:28 +0100, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote:
 
  One more question: i just found out that there are no 64 bits
   packages... will there ever be? with a system with 4GiBs of RAM like
   mine, I can only see 3GiBs.
 
 For Intel/AMD systems, there are two options:
   32-bit, using the I386 ISO/CD/...
   64-bit, using the AMD64 ISO/CD/...
 
 Despite having AMD in the name, the 64-bit packages will install on
 64-bit Intel processors, as well as the AMD Athlon family.
 
 Bear in mind that there are packages which are only available in 32-bit
 versions.  In particular, there are a number of web browser plugins
 which are only available for 32-bit Linux.  For this reason, many linux
 users are installing the 32-bit distribution on desktop systems, even
 though those systems would be quite capable of running a 64-bit linux
 distribution.
 
 I am in that category at home, because I access various sites that offer
 java/flash/adobe content, and I know that these (particularly Java) are
 not (or not fully) supported on a 64-bit platform.  I am not affected by
 the memory restraints, because the motherboard on my PC supports a
 maximum of 3 GB.
  
 
 At work, I have chosen 64-bit Ubuntu for my desktop, because my new PC
 is a 4-core, 64-bit CPU with 4GB RAM.  So far, I have not found anything
 that justifies switching back to 32-bit, although I do have to remember
 the restriction for one environment - our VPN servers are managed via a
 web interface.  These systems offer 'manage from laptop' or 'manage
 server', and the latter uses a java interface that won't work because
 there is not a java plugin for browsers on 64-bit Linux. I am able to
 use the 'manage from laptop' option in that situation, as that doesn't
 use Java.
 
 Tim

I'm sorry Tim, but is your email in response to mine?
I know perfectly well the difference between both architectures, and been using 
64 bits for a while. In the last year or so, i've found no reason to be 
restrained to 32 bits OSs. Some time ago, there were lots of packages that were 
not available at 64bits but that is no longer the case.

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Re: 32-bit vs 64-bit (was: InetBoot for Fedora/Ubuntu/KNOPPIX/VMKnoppix is released.)

2008-07-02 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am in that category at home, because I access various sites that offer
 java/flash/adobe content, and I know that these (particularly Java) are
 not (or not fully) supported on a 64-bit platform.

For Flash, I use the swfdec plugin.  It's not perfect, but then
neither is Adobe's plugin.  It works for YouTube, and that's pretty
much all I'm worried about.  It also has FlashBlock built in,
essentially, since it doesn't auto-play Flash, just puts a big Play
triangle that you have to click to activate the Flash...goodbye
annoying ads.  For sites done entirely in Flash, it doesn't work quite
so well, though...the animations might be a bit jumpy or blank.

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