Re: mmutable Page

2016-04-22 Thread Alan Pope
Hi,

On 22 April 2016 at 00:13, Xen  wrote:
>> Thanks for alerting us to the omission. That page is now fixed.
>
> Does that mean all wiki edits should now be sent to some mailing list?
>

Preferably not as that's terribly inefficient as it takes just as long
as editing the page and causes more work for numerous people.

Just join the team on launchpad, logout and back into the wiki and
then edits can be made.

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Re: mmutable Page

2016-04-21 Thread Xen
Alan Pope schreef op 22-04-16 00:11:

> Thankfully you don't need to trust it for it to be true. We made a
> rapid and logical decision to mitigate the relentless spam we were
> getting. This isn't a perfect solution. It's now harder for people to
> do drive by edits, and we (admins) are getting numerous spurious
> requests to join the team every day and have that extra workload to
> deal with.

There has never been a decision made by anyone in a position of
authority that was not logical, rapid, well-intended, well-thought out
or anything of that kind.

The most favourite line of these people is "After long and thoughtful
consideration" ;-).

;-).

Anyway

> We're also investigating other options of course.

I don't know if spam software is written for your specific system. If
not, you could just change the parameters so that bots cannot find it.
Not sure if that is helpful though, probably not. Sorry.

> Thanks for alerting us to the omission. That page is now fixed.

Does that mean all wiki edits should now be sent to some mailing list?

Regards.

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Re: mmutable Page

2016-04-21 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Ralf,

On 21 April 2016 at 21:19, Ralf Mardorf  wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 20:57:35 +0100, floccul...@gmx.co.uk wrote:
>>Not sure that joining a LP group is really that much of a hardship
>>tbh.
> (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2016-April/007640.html)
>
> Did you notice that e.g.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases was last edited 2016-02-05?
>
> While Wikipdia about Ubuntu was edited today?

> Likely people aren't aware what's going on ;), so yes, it's hard, if
> you don't know what to do.
>

Now you know. I fixed the Ubuntu wiki page for you.

>  In addition I mistrust that the reason
> for this approach is spam.
>

Thankfully you don't need to trust it for it to be true. We made a
rapid and logical decision to mitigate the relentless spam we were
getting. This isn't a perfect solution. It's now harder for people to
do drive by edits, and we (admins) are getting numerous spurious
requests to join the team every day and have that extra workload to
deal with.

We're also investigating other options of course.

Thanks for alerting us to the omission. That page is now fixed.

Cheers,
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Alan Pope
Community Manager

Canonical - Ubuntu Engineering and Services
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Re: mmutable Page

2016-04-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 20:57:35 +0100, floccul...@gmx.co.uk wrote: 
>Not sure that joining a LP group is really that much of a hardship
>tbh.  
(https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2016-April/007640.html)

Did you notice that e.g.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases was last edited 2016-02-05?

While Wikipdia about Ubuntu was edited today?

Likely people aren't aware what's going on ;), so yes, it's hard, if
you don't know what to do.

In my case, I dislike to subscribe to another instance to contribute.
There are not that many experienced Linux pro-audio users spending time
to edit help pages related to this domain. Any additional
time-consuming steps are bad. In addition I mistrust that the reason
for this approach is spam.

Regards,
Ralf

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